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| CIA-93 | ctheune * r113256 z3c.encryptedpersistent/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Conform to repository policy. | 14:04 |
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| CIA-93 | ctheune 1.2 * r113259 z3c.etestbrowser/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Conform to repository policy. | 14:04 |
| CIA-93 | ctheune * r113260 /zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100601.rst: Put summary into standard format. | 14:04 |
| CIA-93 | ctheune * r113261 /zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/ (zope-dev-20100601.rst zope-dev-20100608.rst): Remove superfluous toctree, prepare meeting for today. | 14:04 |
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| CIA-93 | ctheune * r113263 z3c.recipe.staticlxml/setup.py: set upcoming version number | 14:04 |
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| CIA-93 | ldr * r113265 zope.sqlalchemy/ (src/zope/sqlalchemy/datamanager.py CHANGES.txt): Add transaction_manager attribute to data managers for compliance with IDataManager | 14:04 |
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| CIA-93 | gotcha * r113276 zope.schema/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Preparing release 3.6.4 | 17:19 |
| CIA-93 | gotcha * r113277 /zope.schema/tags/3.6.4: Tagging 3.6.4 | 17:19 |
| CIA-93 | gotcha * r113278 zope.schema/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Back to development: 3.6.5 | 17:19 |
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| Guest41031 | ouch | 17:59 |
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| Theuni1 | ding ding ding | 18:02 |
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| TheJester | fight | 18:02 |
| Charlie_X | Sorry I'm late | 18:02 |
| Theuni1 | isn't that my job :) | 18:02 |
| Charlie_X | Just breathing down your neck | 18:03 |
| Theuni1 | har | 18:03 |
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| Theuni1 | aha! great, thanks TheJester | 18:03 |
| Theuni1 | adam isn't currently here, right? | 18:03 |
| agroszer | emmm | 18:03 |
| Theuni1 | ah, there you are | 18:03 |
| Theuni1 | agroszer: how's the kgs release coming along? | 18:04 |
| agroszer | I guess I need to bump the version | 18:04 |
| planetzopebot | leocornus.django.ploneproxy 0.1beta2 (PyPI recent updates) http://pypi.python.org/pypi/leocornus.django.ploneproxy/0.1beta2 | 18:04 |
| agroszer | I need someone then to write the german ANN | 18:04 |
| Theuni1 | hmm? | 18:05 |
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| Theuni1 | didn't know we do official german announcements :) | 18:05 |
| * agroszer looks for the url... | 18:05 | |
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| agroszer | as usual, I don't find it right now | 18:05 |
| agroszer | at the end of the release doc, there's a german site or something, which needs a german ANN | 18:06 |
| Theuni1 | ok, feel free to ignore that for the release itself | 18:06 |
| Theuni1 | and point it out on the mailing list | 18:06 |
| agroszer | ok | 18:06 |
| Theuni1 | there's plenty of german-speaking guys around who can help out | 18:06 |
| agroszer | ok | 18:07 |
| agroszer | I did update the doc itself too a bit | 18:07 |
| Theuni1 | good | 18:07 |
| Theuni1 | where does it live now? | 18:07 |
| agroszer | yah... that was the url I was looking for | 18:08 |
| agroszer | the url is in a previous meeting summary | 18:08 |
| agroszer | where are they? | 18:09 |
| Theuni1 | docs.zope.org/ztk | 18:09 |
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| Theuni1 | docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit | 18:09 |
| Theuni1 | anyway, does it live in sphinx already? | 18:09 |
| agroszer | nope, wiki | 18:09 |
| agroszer | http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/MakingARelease | 18:09 |
| agroszer | found it | 18:09 |
| agroszer | Linux Enterprise (www.linuxenterprise.de) -- The short announcement must be in German. | 18:10 |
| Theuni1 | yeah, alright, so those docs will probably migrate to sphinx at some point | 18:10 |
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| Charlie_X | Lots of people to help with that. Even Theuni1's German isn't that bade. ;-) | 18:10 |
| agroszer | LOL | 18:11 |
| Theuni1 | agroszer: do you consider the "document release procedure" finished? | 18:11 |
| Theuni1 | or do you want us to keep following it? | 18:11 |
| agroszer | I think so, it works as it is | 18:11 |
| Theuni1 | cool | 18:11 |
| Theuni1 | the other was that you were missing an index view on download.zope.org, did you manage to get jens doing something? | 18:12 |
| agroszer | not, yet I guess I need to bug him | 18:12 |
| agroszer | I'll drop a mail right now | 18:12 |
| Theuni1 | k | 18:12 |
| Theuni1 | anything else for the release? | 18:12 |
| agroszer | naah, version bump, ANN, fertig | 18:13 |
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| Theuni1 | gut | 18:13 |
| Theuni1 | which brings us to the next point | 18:13 |
| Theuni1 | test runners/nightly builds | 18:13 |
| agroszer | yup | 18:13 |
| Theuni1 | we have funding for the rackspace vm | 18:13 |
| * Charlie_X claps | 18:13 | |
| agroszer | btw, looks like I got the email from MSDN | 18:13 |
| Theuni1 | i'm not sure what's up with the compiler licenses, though | 18:14 |
| * Charlie_X is agog | 18:14 | |
| agroszer | something should arrive via snailmail until 14th june | 18:14 |
| Theuni1 | sidnei's AMI won't be directly usable, but i hope we can get to a working image and maybe record the instructions needed to setup everything somewhere | 18:14 |
| Theuni1 | agroszer: oh, interesting | 18:14 |
| Theuni1 | did you get that info personally? | 18:14 |
| agroszer | Theuni1, I'm working on the wineggbuilder | 18:14 |
| agroszer | yup, email addressed directly an me, from MSDNIC | 18:15 |
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| agroszer | whatever it should be | 18:15 |
| Theuni1 | agroszer: the wineggbuilder was for monitoring releases that need windows bdists and then build them, right? | 18:15 |
| agroszer | so, I'm working on the wineggbuilder, and definitely want to document what needs to be done on the server | 18:15 |
| agroszer | right | 18:16 |
| Theuni1 | ok, cool | 18:16 |
| agroszer | I postponed the activation of the server with Gary not to waste money till the package is ready | 18:16 |
| Theuni1 | alright | 18:16 |
| Theuni1 | i'm fine with that :) | 18:16 |
| Theuni1 | i'll move the AMI topic from the agenda then | 18:17 |
| agroszer | k | 18:17 |
| Theuni1 | and compiler licenses are expected next week | 18:17 |
| agroszer | we'll see what's in the package | 18:17 |
| * Theuni1 feels like we're having a one-to-one conversation with Charlie_X watching | 18:17 | |
| agroszer | I'm a bit busy till next week | 18:17 |
| agroszer | the others will get the log | 18:18 |
| Theuni1 | next wednesday has a bug day coming up :) | 18:18 |
| agroszer | ugggh | 18:18 |
| agroszer | maybe I'll take that to setup the serer | 18:18 |
| agroszer | +v | 18:18 |
| * Charlie_X isn't sitting naked in a bath of butter | 18:18 | |
| Theuni1 | ok last topic | 18:18 |
| Theuni1 | some meta | 18:18 |
| Theuni1 | how do you guys feel aobut the state of this meeting/ | 18:19 |
| Theuni1 | ? | 18:19 |
| agroszer | going good | 18:19 |
| Charlie_X | Participation could be better. | 18:19 |
| Charlie_X | And we need new topics. | 18:19 |
| Theuni1 | right | 18:19 |
| Theuni1 | that kind of overlaps with my desire to manage topics in a better fashion | 18:20 |
| agroszer | yah, at the beginning there were more people | 18:20 |
| Theuni1 | i partially don't want to start more topics as long as we can't juggle the open ones | 18:20 |
| Theuni1 | I had this one system tested in between and that was awful | 18:20 |
| Theuni1 | Charlie_X: btw, are you officially the second person helping with the meetings? :) | 18:20 |
| Charlie_X | Participation and topics are probably linked. We have been treading water on KGS and stuff for the last month. | 18:21 |
| Theuni1 | yeah | 18:21 |
| Theuni1 | that's what i thought | 18:21 |
| Charlie_X | Theuni1: what's to do to make it official? | 18:21 |
| Theuni1 | maybe preparing the agenda on monday and especially asking for topics that people want to talk about would be helpful | 18:21 |
| Charlie_X | There is no topic submission procedure. What happened to my addition for today? | 18:21 |
| Theuni1 | Charlie_X: just you officially acknowledging that you want to do it ;) | 18:21 |
| Theuni1 | Charlie_X: huh? addition? | 18:22 |
| Charlie_X | Add 2.7 to the buildbots | 18:22 |
| Theuni1 | ah damn | 18:22 |
| Theuni1 | yeah | 18:22 |
| Theuni1 | that fell off | 18:22 |
| agroszer | there was an email? | 18:22 |
| Theuni1 | see | 18:22 |
| Theuni1 | well, I think that exposes parts of what issue trackers are about | 18:22 |
| Charlie_X | I'm happy to be a convener. | 18:22 |
| sidnei | fwiw, im playing with windows on plain kvm under ubuntu, seems to work fine so far | 18:22 |
| Theuni1 | Charlie_X: good :) | 18:23 |
| Charlie_X | Submissions on Monday with a reminder would be good. Nothing is going to work if people don't have itches to scratch. | 18:23 |
| Theuni1 | sidnei: yeah, i've been dealing with that as well, works reasonably well | 18:23 |
| Theuni1 | reminder -> invitation ;) | 18:23 |
| agroszer | you still need the licence... | 18:23 |
| sidnei | cool | 18:23 |
| sidnei | i have to get lunch, cya'll l8r | 18:23 |
| Theuni1 | sidnei: cya | 18:23 |
| Charlie_X | Enjoy | 18:24 |
| Theuni1 | Charlie_X: i wonder whether we should use this to manage the open issues https://edge.launchpad.net/zopetoolkit-project | 18:24 |
| mcdonc_ | its tough to drum up enthusiasm for maintenance | 18:24 |
| Theuni1 | mcdonc_: yeah | 18:24 |
| mcdonc_ | but it seems to be going pretty well all the same | 18:25 |
| Theuni1 | the meeting isn't so much about maintenance, i think it's currently more that he maintenance issues seem to be the ones we get stuck with ;) | 18:25 |
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| * Charlie_X agrees. | 18:25 | |
| Theuni1 | personally I think there's quite some backlog on maintenanceish things that needs to get tackled until we move forward, OTOH we could just discuss the things people want to talk about anyway | 18:25 |
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| mcdonc_ | we do that all day anyway, its nice to have the meeting for some structure | 18:26 |
| Theuni1 | e.g. mcdonc_, you proposed to talk about more structure within the ZTK and I didn't put that on the table as all that nitty-gritty stuff was around as welll :) | 18:26 |
| Charlie_X | Definitely want to move onto topics like the bicycle toolkit but getting the KGS and windows has to be done. Even if contributions are limited to listening to ideas. | 18:26 |
| mcdonc_ | yup.. no use in stirring up that particular bikeshed | 18:27 |
| Theuni1 | *G | 18:28 |
| Theuni1 | i mean, OTOH wrt the maintenance issues we do have some traction | 18:28 |
| Theuni1 | i find it amazing that we're getting all that buildbot visibility by now | 18:28 |
| Charlie_X | Yes, it's not all glory but it is getting results. | 18:29 |
| agroszer | buildbots are a must | 18:30 |
| Theuni1 | ok, so the meta has charlie as the second organizer for the weekly meeting and we'll try to make invitations on mondays and explicitly ask for topics people would like to chat about | 18:30 |
| Charlie_X | Works for me. | 18:30 |
| agroszer | +1 | 18:30 |
| Theuni1 | we still don't know how to keep our agenda in check :) | 18:30 |
| agroszer | Theuni1, Charlie_X you select the tool as you do the dirty job | 18:31 |
| Theuni1 | well, sure, except i'm running out of ideas ;) | 18:31 |
| Theuni1 | ok, time's over | 18:31 |
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| Charlie_X | Python 2.7? | 18:31 |
| agroszer | then take the least worst | 18:31 |
| Theuni1 | Charlie_X: next week, i'll put it on the agenda | 18:31 |
| agroszer | some ticketing thing might work too... | 18:32 |
| Theuni1 | yeah, i'm checking whether some spreadsheety thing might be reasonable | 18:32 |
| Theuni1 | i don't want to open other trackers than launchpad and that doesn't look useful for our scenario | 18:33 |
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| Theuni1 | actually, maybe asking the LP guys might help whether they have a specific way to use LP for managing agendas like this | 18:33 |
| Charlie_X | Opera unite's fridge notes? | 18:33 |
| agroszer | better ask LP | 18:33 |
| agroszer | then it's a webapp, if it works | 18:34 |
| Charlie_X | It is always down to the people not the technology. | 18:34 |
| Theuni1 | yupp | 18:34 |
| Theuni1 | anyway, gotta run | 18:34 |
| agroszer | yah, work piles up... | 18:34 |
| mup | Bug #591309 was filed: Crash when subunit reports test failures containing UTF8-encoded data <zope.testing:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/591309> | 18:35 |
| agroszer | tillnext week then | 18:35 |
| Charlie_X | Prioritisation is always a problem and then there is a the psychological aspect that some people need pressure to respond (I know I do) | 18:35 |
| Theuni1 | :) | 18:36 |
| agroszer | some nagging never hurts | 18:36 |
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| planetzopebot | Products.Doormat 0.1 (PyPI recent updates) http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Products.Doormat/0.1 | 20:04 |
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| ToreadorVampire | Hi, I'm ToreadorVampire - you may remember me from previous conversations such as "My crazy attempt to implement TALES in C#/.NET" and "Ranting about plone from time to time" ... but heh ... I'm looking at the TALES spec and I'm suddenly concerned about a possibility for ambiguity ... | 22:44 |
| ToreadorVampire | ... say I have an expression "foo/bar/length" ... say "bar" evaluates to a dictionary. "length" now might be a property on the dictionary object (indicating it's length) or it might be bar["length"] | 22:45 |
| ToreadorVampire | I had a poke around in the TALES source code and - from what I can tell - the engine will try bar.length and if that doesn't exist it will try bar["length"] - couldn't that be a cause for some trouble? | 22:46 |
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| benji | what sort of trouble are you concerned about? | 22:55 |
| planetzopebot | plone.postpublicationhook 1.1 (PyPI recent updates) http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plone.postpublicationhook/1.1 | 23:04 |
| ToreadorVampire | benji: Well, say you were getting info about a member or something - say a member took the name "length" (or any other name that matches a property of the dictionary object) - surely couldn't that result in errors? | 23:20 |
| ToreadorVampire | Like: "root/domainModel/members/length" | 23:21 |
| ToreadorVampire | You're going to get an integer returned instead of the member details for member "length" | 23:21 |
| ToreadorVampire | Yes, you could prevent members from taking names that might clash with object properties, but that seems kludge-y :( | 23:21 |
| benji | it could, if you're not aware of the problem; when that situation can happen you should use a python: expression | 23:22 |
| ToreadorVampire | Mmm | 23:22 |
| benji | note that it can only happen if you use the question mark syntax ("/foo/?bar/baz") | 23:23 |
| ToreadorVampire | I first spotted it in another context of course, which is how to deal with member overloading in C# - because that can cause some even more ambiguous cases | 23:23 |
| ToreadorVampire | benji: Yes, I spotted that at the footer of the TALES synta | 23:23 |
| ToreadorVampire | +x | 23:23 |
| ToreadorVampire | Uh, not syntax at all, the spec is what I mean | 23:23 |
| benji | so your example would only be a problem if you were hard-coding a user's chosen name into a template | 23:24 |
| ToreadorVampire | Yeah, of course ... it was just a problem scenario that came to mind quickly ... and you're right - it's most scary when using the ?variableName syntax | 23:25 |
| * ToreadorVampire is yet to add in support for that ?variableName syntax | 23:25 | |
| ToreadorVampire | (to my C# implementation) | 23:25 |
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| ToreadorVampire | I've just added in an additional use-case for ambiguity-resolving mechanism to handle indexers like that though ... I don't think Python has them (I'm no expert with python, although I can usually read it and figure out what it's doing/hack with it) is custom attributes | 23:27 |
| ToreadorVampire | I've provided some custom attributes that can be added to members in order to resolve ambiguity (since C# permits method overloading etc) - for example public string GetName() {} ; public string GetName(int howManyBananas) {} « How would TALES decide which to use? | 23:29 |
| ToreadorVampire | So I have added [TalesAlias("getName")] and the TALES engine will attempt to get a member by its alias first (and if it encounters a duplicate alias it can throw an exception) and then by member name on the object (and then finally by indexer if appropriate) | 23:30 |
| ToreadorVampire | Well, those aliases can be expanded to cover indexers | 23:30 |
| ToreadorVampire | Give the indexer an alias and: "root/members/?memberName" might become "root/members/memberIndex/?memberName" (if the indexer was aliased to "memberIndex") | 23:31 |
| ToreadorVampire | That totally prevents ambiguity and doesn't force any additional syntax into the mix (on the TALES end of things anyway) | 23:31 |
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