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| mgedmin | Unauthorized shows me the attribute and permission | 01:23 |
|---|---|---|
| mgedmin | e.g. Unauthorized: ('__getitem__', 'zope.View') | 01:23 |
| mgedmin | could it show me the object too? | 01:23 |
| mgedmin | wish: Unauthorized: (<....Foo object at ...>, '__getitem__', 'zope.Whatever') | 01:23 |
| J1m | ok w me | 01:25 |
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| philiKON | mgedmin, +1 | 01:26 |
| mgedmin | src/zope/security/_zope_security_checker.c, line 98 | 01:27 |
| mgedmin | r = Py_BuildValue("OO", name, permission); | 01:28 |
| mgedmin | I guess it needs to be changed to | 01:28 |
| mgedmin | r = Py_BuildValue("OOO", object, name, permission); | 01:28 |
| J1m | It's not that simple | 01:29 |
| philiKON | mgedmin, python impl. needs to be changed too | 01:29 |
| J1m | I think that exception has a specific constructor | 01:29 |
| * mgedmin looks | 01:30 | |
| J1m | You don't want to screw up existing clients of the exception. | 01:30 |
| philiKON | J1m, Unauthorized is just a dumb subclass of Exception | 01:30 |
| J1m | hm, ok | 01:30 |
| mgedmin | yes, no special constructors | 01:30 |
| J1m | what about the exception view? | 01:30 |
| mgedmin | I should check if any views touch Unauthorized.args, though | 01:30 |
| philiKON | the default one doesn't use them | 01:31 |
| philiKON | but maybe the one in the debug layer | 01:31 |
| philiKON | heh, it only does <p tal:content="context"/> | 01:31 |
| J1m | cool | 01:32 |
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| mgedmin | ok, later | 01:34 |
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| mgedmin | philiKON, are you traveling between Mexico and Phillipines all the time? | 02:47 |
| mgedmin | src/zope/component/README.txt has DOS-style line endings and no svn:eol-style property, this causes a ValueError in doctest | 02:54 |
| philiKON | mgedmin, *grin* :) | 02:54 |
| philiKON | mgedmin, ouch, but i guess that's easy to fix with recode and the svn property | 02:55 |
| mgedmin | ouch, it also used 2.4 pythons @decorator syntax | 02:56 |
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| mgedmin | waah, the diff is unreadable: http://z3c.pov.lt/20050222221400.15394203345@mail.zope.org | 02:57 |
| mgedmin | I committed the Unauthorized change | 02:59 |
| mgedmin | bye | 02:59 |
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| philiKON | srichter, you have auto-props enabled for eol-style? | 03:18 |
| srichter | let me check | 03:18 |
| philiKON | i think zope.componet/README.txt was added by your blow-services, right? | 03:18 |
| srichter | yes | 03:18 |
| philiKON | Egon supposedly changed something ("Prompt added") which seemed to invoke the windows line endings | 03:18 |
| srichter | no, auto props are off | 03:19 |
| philiKON | :( | 03:19 |
| srichter | what do I need to do? | 03:19 |
| philiKON | enable auto-props in general | 03:19 |
| philiKON | and then set svn:eol-style="native" for *py *txt *zcml | 03:20 |
| philiKON | *pt | 03:20 |
| srichter | ok | 03:21 |
| philiKON | ouch | 03:23 |
| philiKON | egon added a >>> prompt for the 2.4 decorator syntax | 03:23 |
| srichter | ouch | 03:24 |
| philiKON | damn, i don't have recode installed | 03:24 |
| philiKON | ah, you can do it in emacs | 03:25 |
| philiKON | srichter, should i fix this? | 03:26 |
| srichter | yes | 03:26 |
| philiKON | ok | 03:26 |
| philiKON | we need to go through the z3 sources and set svn:eol-style on all text files | 03:27 |
| philiKON | basically do svn propset svn:eol-style native *py *zcml *txt *pt in every directory | 03:27 |
| srichter | can you auto-do this? | 03:27 |
| philiKON | i can try | 03:29 |
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| __gotcha | /msg NickServ IDENTIFY celodor | 03:38 |
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| philiKON | srichter, ok, i'm having a simple shell script run over my workingcopy | 03:49 |
| philiKON | lol | 03:49 |
| philiKON | philipp@bender:~/dev/Zope3/src/zope$ svn st | 03:49 |
| philiKON | M app/component/fields.py | 03:49 |
| philiKON | that's all :) | 03:49 |
| srichter | :-) | 03:50 |
| * philiKON wonders about new stuff like pytz, or stuff like zwiki | 03:50 | |
| philiKON | pytz is ok | 03:50 |
| philiKON | srichter, btw, still working ont he bugtracker? | 03:51 |
| srichter | have not in a long time | 03:52 |
| srichter | I have been busy with apidoc lately | 03:52 |
| srichter | cool changes about to arrive | 03:52 |
| philiKON | i think my script wasn't working right | 03:53 |
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| philiKON | i was just wondering coz it's been sitting there for some time now... | 03:54 |
| Damascene | philiKON: you are in europe? | 03:55 |
| philiKON | yes | 03:55 |
| Damascene | wow, so it's about 3 AM there? | 03:55 |
| philiKON | yup | 03:56 |
| philiKON | srichter, ok, all checked in now | 04:00 |
| srichter | thanks | 04:01 |
| philiKON | damn, as a committer you know have to be subscribed to z3-checkins in order for your commit email to be delivered to the list | 04:03 |
| philiKON | i subscribed as philipp@weitershausen.de but checkin messages get sent as philikon@philikon.de so they were held for approval | 04:04 |
| philiKON | anyway, i'm off to bed | 04:04 |
| Damascene | night | 04:04 |
| srichter | night | 04:04 |
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| philiZZZ | mgedmin, i found your entry in CHANGES.txt a little bit misleading. it's really not a feature of the unauthroized exception to show the objecdt but of the Attribute CHecker... other place where Unauthorized is thrown, it doesn't show anything at all | 13:34 |
| mgedmin | philiZZZ, true | 13:36 |
| mgedmin | can you suggest a better wording? | 13:36 |
| philiZZZ | "WHen raising the Unahtorized exception, the security checker now passes the object in question in addition to the attribute name and missiing permission. This should make debugging easier." | 13:39 |
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| mgedmin | thx | 13:42 |
| mgedmin | I'll take the libery of replacing "WHen" with "When", though ;) | 13:42 |
| philiZZZ | yeh, a couple of typos in there :) | 13:42 |
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| philiKON | there we are | 13:42 |
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| mgedmin | boo, when I try to profile the tests of my z3 app, I get an assertion error in /usr/lib/python2.3/hotshot/stats.py | 14:53 |
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| zagy | mgedmin: I had those too, until upgrading to python 2.3.5 | 14:55 |
| * mgedmin checks | 14:56 | |
| mgedmin | I'm running 2.3.5 here | 14:57 |
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| regebro | Hmmm.... Right now, I'm trying to do a "read-only" field that has it's data set in update, and not from a form. | 15:50 |
| regebro | Does that even make sense? | 15:50 |
| regebro | ...not from a form inut I should say... | 15:50 |
| regebro | s/inut/input | 15:51 |
| * regebro has had too little cofee. | 15:51 | |
| philiKON | so, it gets updated on edit but it doesn't have a widget rendered? | 15:52 |
| regebro | Well, it has a widget (or will have) but you can't edit that widget. | 15:52 |
| regebro | Instead, I want the widget to change depending on the values of the other fields. | 15:53 |
| regebro | Hmmm. Think if it as a search form, and what I'm trying to do is a result widget. ;) | 15:53 |
| philiKON | hmmm. ok | 15:54 |
| philiKON | you could mock this up as an input widget | 15:54 |
| philiKON | that gathers its data from other field inputs | 15:54 |
| philiKON | it's not "kosher" but it should do what you want | 15:54 |
| regebro | Right. | 15:54 |
| regebro | You can't get that data from the widget code if I understand it? | 15:55 |
| regebro | Instead I'd update the fields data during the views update(), I imagine? | 15:55 |
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| Workblia | what is the standart procedure of signing the contributors agreement ? | 16:07 |
| Workblia | i mean whom shold i send it to ? | 16:07 |
| Workblia | i got it on paper and in png now | 16:07 |
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| J1m | You can email me the png. jim@zope.com. | 16:18 |
| J1m | Of course, the agreement itself has mailing instructions. | 16:19 |
| J1m | You did read the agreement, right? :) | 16:19 |
| Workblia | it doesn't say anything about the email part ;) | 16:23 |
| Workblia | and will you handle a 400kb png | 16:24 |
| Workblia | or should i give you the link to it ? | 16:24 |
| J1m | yes | 16:24 |
| J1m | just email it | 16:25 |
| rejj | Did you get a chance to think about what I asked the other day, J1m? | 16:26 |
| rejj | re, non-urgent work that would be appropriate for learning how/where to dive into z3 | 16:27 |
| J1m | Sorry, no | 16:28 |
| J1m | Actually, srichter might be a better person to ask. | 16:28 |
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| rejj | ok | 16:28 |
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| srichter | rejj: there are several cleanup nd UI tasks to do | 16:31 |
| srichter | cleanup: Ensure that all modules are restructured text | 16:32 |
| srichter | cleanup: Update the headers to 2005 (we have a script) | 16:32 |
| srichter | UI: you should coordinate with Roger (projekt01 on IRC) | 16:32 |
| srichter | rejj: other than that, do you have an area you are more knowledgable in than others? like i18n, rest, ... | 16:34 |
| srichter | rejj: oh, another task would be to support an "order" attribute for online help topics | 16:35 |
| rejj | That's hard to judge without knowing how knowledgable everyone else is ;) | 16:35 |
| srichter | then topics would not be sorted by name but take the order into account first | 16:35 |
| rejj | I'm interested in learning how the core works and fits together, but I guess anything is good as a start | 16:36 |
| srichter | well, I don't want to compare yourself to other people but compare your knowledge among topics you know | 16:36 |
| srichter | well, if you want to get to know the core, write a README.txt for the Publisher API | 16:36 |
| srichter | i.e. zope.publisher, zope.app.publisher and zope.publication | 16:36 |
| srichter | this is probably the oldest issue in the collector :-) | 16:37 |
| rejj | heh | 16:37 |
| rejj | But also a bit of a Catch 22, surely | 16:37 |
| rejj | To be able to write it, I'd first need to go read something that would probably have what the contents of that README would want to be ;) | 16:37 |
| Workblia | J1m, you got new mail ;) | 16:38 |
| srichter | well, actually I can give you a starting point and while you learn you write your ideas down | 16:38 |
| srichter | we help you correct it | 16:38 |
| rejj | that sounds workable | 16:39 |
| srichter | rejj: this way you get a lot of feedback and you are constantly corrected | 16:39 |
| srichter | yes, it is the oldest issue (Issue 10) | 16:39 |
| rejj | heh, since 2002 | 16:41 |
| rejj | ouch | 16:41 |
| srichter | yes, this issue had been issued right after we rewrote the framework to use the component architecture, but noone got around doing the docs later | 16:41 |
| regebro | rejj: One thing that slowly teaches you how Zope3 internals work is extending Five. | 16:42 |
| regebro | That's what I have been doing. | 16:42 |
| regebro | Hmm. I have a widget and a field now that is a "mocked up" input widget. So far so good. | 16:43 |
| regebro | But what is the actual "correct" way to get that data when I render? | 16:44 |
| regebro | I can find the data in widget.context.context.adapted.<fieldname>, but that's just silly... | 16:44 |
| srichter | the widget should do all this for you | 16:45 |
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| regebro | Yes, but how? | 16:46 |
| regebro | aha, found it. _getFormValue() | 16:48 |
| regebro | Everything is so split up on millions of little bits and pieces it's darn near impossible to find anything... | 16:49 |
| srichter | regebro: I think I will implement a general browser:form directive this or next week; then most of this should not be necessary anymore | 16:50 |
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| regebro | That might help a bit. (I'd still need to implement the widget, I guess.) | 16:52 |
| regebro | In any case, for this for it's actually quite nice to have an editform. | 16:52 |
| regebro | I create a little "helper object" by adapting my object to a helper interface, and the helper objects contain the methods that the form needs. | 16:53 |
| regebro | Keeps the main object less cluttered. | 16:53 |
| srichter | right | 16:53 |
| srichter | you can actually do this using an adapter | 16:54 |
| regebro | Well, I am. or what you do mean with "this"? | 16:54 |
| srichter | for the editform you can specify for which interface the editform is for but specify a different interface for the edit form | 16:54 |
| regebro | Exactly what I'm doing. Very nice. | 16:55 |
| srichter | the adapter from the "for" to the "schema" interface is automatically looked up | 16:55 |
| srichter | oh ok. | 16:55 |
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| tarek_ | hello, I have a question about installers : | 17:00 |
| tarek_ | I have a Five Product that i need to run an installation process, so i do it the CMF way . Is there any thing / principle in Zope 3 that can be used yet to prepare my product for future migration ? (apis, interfaces, philosophy) | 17:03 |
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| srichter | tarek_: don't use services directly; don't use presentation API (use adapter API instead) | 17:12 |
| tarek_ | srichter: ok, I will focus on that | 17:13 |
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| philiKON | srichter, that's not really useful advice if you're working with X3.0 (which Five requires) | 19:09 |
| philiKON | you can't just substitute a getView class with a getMultiAdapter | 19:09 |
| srichter | that's sad | 19:12 |
| srichter | so the semantics in Five are different :-( | 19:12 |
| * tarek_ has a hard time to make choices in his Five product, especially in this subject | 19:13 | |
| tarek_ | when i start to code things to make it work in my CMF env. i try to keep in mind "do it as muche zope3-ish you can" but.... | 19:14 |
| philiKON | srichter, no | 19:15 |
| philiKON | srichter, they're not | 19:15 |
| philiKON | srichter, they're like X3.0 | 19:15 |
| srichter | ok | 19:15 |
| philiKON | X3.0 has two separate services... Presentation and Adapters | 19:15 |
| philiKON | so, Five has that too | 19:15 |
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| srichter | ok | 19:16 |
| philiKON | tarek_, the installation stuff that CMF needs you'll have to replicate in your Five-based product, too... some things can't just be done the z3 way, especially when it's about pleasing an older framework's wishes (e.g. CMF initialization) | 19:17 |
| tarek_ | philiKON: ok. | 19:17 |
| * tarek_ will look upon the setup framework in the future Z3 CMF / hoping that this will be thaught and done on the first steps | 19:19 | |
| tarek_ | install -> setup | 19:19 |
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| mgedmin | um, am I stupid, or does OrderedMultiSelectWidget completely ignore setRenderedValue? | 22:09 |
| * mgedmin peering at the source | 22:09 | |
| mgedmin | setUpEditWidgets works with this widget -- or so I assume, seeing that Pluggable Auth Utility edit form uses it | 22:10 |
| mgedmin | setUpWidgets(..., initial={...}) doesn't | 22:10 |
| * mgedmin prepares to file a bug | 22:10 | |
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| mgedmin | http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/371 | 22:17 |
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| * mgedmin finds the names of doctest option flags extremely hard to remember | 22:58 | |
| srichter | mgedmin: yeah; I alsways activate NORMALIZE_WHITESPACE these days, so I can copy and paste | 23:11 |
| srichter | and ELLIPSIS finally sticks | 23:11 |
| srichter | more I don't need | 23:11 |
| mgedmin | REPORT_NDIFF is sometimes useful | 23:15 |
| mgedmin | but yeah, I also primarily use NORMALIZE_WHITESPACE and ELLIPSIS | 23:15 |
| mgedmin | why can't I comment out >>> lines in doctests? | 23:25 |
| mgedmin | if I write #>>> foo, I get an "inconsistent leading indentation" error | 23:25 |
| srichter | Put them at the beginning of the line | 23:26 |
| srichter | the # I mean | 23:26 |
| srichter | also put an empty line before the comment | 23:26 |
| mgedmin | doesn't work | 23:26 |
| mgedmin | actually, I'm wrong | 23:26 |
| mgedmin | since there was no empty line after >>>, the next line is supposed to be either a statement, or output | 23:26 |
| mgedmin | >>> #foo works though ;) | 23:26 |
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| mgedmin | it is a pity that test.py -1 is ignored when I explicitly specify doctest options in test_suite() | 23:32 |
| srichter | really? | 23:34 |
| srichter | darn :-( | 23:34 |
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