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| mp | I know that ZopeX3 is not yet ready for "deployment" (ZopeX3300 page says it's for developers).. however - is it ready to make complete working sites? for example non production, medium traffic non-commercial private sites? | 01:18 |
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| srichter | mp: actually Zope X3.0 is production quality | 01:19 |
| srichter | mp: it is ideal for Web applications | 01:19 |
| srichter | mp: Web-sites are a bit harder, since you do not have any of the high-level TTW scripting capabilities yet | 01:19 |
| srichter | I need to change the ZopeX3300 page, if it really says that | 01:20 |
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| fdrake | srichter: can I get interfaces that are directly provided by an object any more? | 01:27 |
| fdrake | the old introspector let me do that | 01:27 |
| srichter | I know | 01:28 |
| srichter | as I said it is up to other people to provide a new instance-specific screen | 01:28 |
| fdrake | seems like it was a bad decision to toss the old one prematurely :-( | 01:29 |
| fdrake | well, I doubt I'll have time to address this one today. | 01:29 |
| srichter | no, it was not; the old code was a very shaky shack | 01:30 |
| fdrake | I didn't read the old code for that view, so I can't disagree. | 01:30 |
| fdrake | It's just really valuable to check all the interfaces that an object provides. | 01:31 |
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| srichter | we almost never use directly provides anyways | 01:32 |
| fdrake | depends on the "we" involved :-) | 01:32 |
| srichter | well, with the new public API doctool API it should be very easy to do | 01:32 |
| srichter | its not more than an hour of work | 01:33 |
| srichter | (including tests) | 01:33 |
| fdrake | for debugging (the only use case for the introspector) it doesn't even matter how rarely that information is needed, so long as it's available when it is. | 01:33 |
| fdrake | perhaps I can look at it tonight, then | 01:34 |
| fdrake | where do I look to find out about the "new public API doctool API"? | 01:35 |
| srichter | apidpoc/README.txt | 01:35 |
| srichter | it will direct you to the other TXT files | 01:35 |
| fdrake | ok, thanks | 01:35 |
| srichter | there are several files with detailed isntructions | 01:36 |
| srichter | basically instead of introspecting a class, you want to introspect an instance | 01:36 |
| srichter | you might want to add a new public method in this regard to the API | 01:36 |
| fdrake | I think your hour estimate assumes that you know the existing API. :-) | 01:45 |
| fdrake | It feels like the right UI would be for the Introspector view to show specific information about the object, and let you navigate to the class information. | 01:45 |
| fdrake | Does that make sense to you? | 01:45 |
| srichter | yeah | 01:45 |
| srichter | in fact the easiest might be to just show the provided interfaces and have them linked to the apidoc | 01:46 |
| srichter | and also link to the class reference to the apidoc version as well | 01:46 |
| fdrake | yep | 01:46 |
| fdrake | I don't want iface/class details inline; links are fine. | 01:47 |
| srichter | or even easier just provide a link to the class | 01:47 |
| srichter | and only list all directly provided interfaces | 01:47 |
| fdrake | right | 01:47 |
| fdrake | that's what's missing from the existing view | 01:47 |
| srichter | yep | 01:47 |
| mp | zope3 does not pass all tests (fresh from svn) - is it normal? | 02:01 |
| srichter | no, all tests should always pass | 02:02 |
| srichter | which fail? | 02:02 |
| srichter | are you on Windows? | 02:02 |
| mp | nope | 02:02 |
| mp | Help Topic definition /home/maciej/fun/prog/zope/Zope3/build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/bugtracker/browser/help/tracker_overview.rst does not exist | 02:03 |
| mp | no files in help | 02:03 |
| mp | did I forget about something? | 02:03 |
| srichter | mmh, please send a report to the mailing list | 02:03 |
| srichter | no, but we sometimes forget to run the tests under src before making checkin | 02:04 |
| srichter | checkins | 02:04 |
| srichter | it should be easy to fix though | 02:04 |
| mp | So, there's no help for now and reference in config file should be removed? | 02:07 |
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| mp | And other silly thing - but annoying and makes curious people go away - broken ui, at least in my Mozila (rather standard).. but I'll post details later, because it is very late ;) | 02:24 |
| mp | bue | 02:24 |
| mp | bye | 02:24 |
| fdrake | srichter: i have a rough patch, but need to update/extend the tests | 02:26 |
| fdrake | i'll have to catch that later | 02:26 |
| fdrake | (but before I commit, obviously) | 02:28 |
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| fdrake | srichter: do you know why there's a test of the introspector in zope.app.ftests.test_introspector? | 21:36 |
| fdrake | it jsut checks the HTTP response code | 21:36 |
| fdrake | s/jsut/just/ | 21:36 |
| fdrake | ok, in that case :-), I'm going to remove it as redundant and out-of-place | 21:39 |
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