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| j1m_ | alecm, could you ask your question more concisely? | 00:39 |
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| j1m_ | I don't have time to read the thread above. | 00:39 |
| j1m_ | d2m, that is a new feature | 00:41 |
| alecm | j1m_: The basic question was: Is there a reason the getAdapters((obj,), Interface) only returns one adapter with a given name (it's unclear how it chooses the preferred one) even when multiple adapters implementing Interface are available (and none is obviously more specific than another)? | 00:42 |
| j1m_ | It picks one adapter by name by design. | 00:42 |
| j1m_ | It should pick the adapter that you would have gotten by calling getAdapter and passing that name. | 00:42 |
| j1m_ | The adapter with the closest match is the first one found when searching the specification-resolution order of the specification provided by the object being adapted. | 00:44 |
| alecm | So if I have interfaces I1(Interface), I2(I1) and I3(I1), and I provide adapters for an object to I2 and I3, when I look up all adapters for I1 I'll get a seemingly random adapter rather than the full list of available adapters | 00:44 |
| j1m_ | no, you'll get neither. | 00:45 |
| j1m_ | oh too I1 and I2? | 00:45 |
| j1m_ | oh to I1 and I2? | 00:46 |
| j1m_ | right, in that case, you get a more or less arbitrary one. | 00:46 |
| j1m_ | The adapter system can't tell which is better. | 00:46 |
| alecm | seems strange to me that I don't get all of them, since it is getAdapters() after all. But I guess when you want this kind of pattern your adapters to the super-interfaces must be named. | 00:48 |
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| senra | Hi, some help from zope-devvers... after registering my .ssh/ida_dsa contents to https://cvs.zope.org/account.php, I can do cvs chekouts ok (with authentication), but svn checkouts keep asking for my passphrase ? Any clues ? | 04:29 |
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| efrerich | agroszer: yesterday you ask 'any volunteers to check to win32-test-release?' | 11:01 |
| agroszer | efrerich: yep | 11:01 |
| efrerich | I can test it in the afternoon (14:30 GMT or so) | 11:01 |
| agroszer | cool | 11:02 |
| agroszer | I'm just getting the 3.3.0b1 | 11:02 |
| agroszer | installer should be ready until then | 11:03 |
| efrerich | thx | 11:10 |
| efrerich | leaving now | 11:10 |
| agroszer | bye | 11:10 |
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| eins | is there a way to create "hierarchically" depending widgets on each other. E.g. I have widget a, which renders a list. If I select one element from that list, input form reloads with widget b containing values, constrained by value selected in widget a. | 13:00 |
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| eins | what do I do? | 13:01 |
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| volvox | eins, i don't think there are dynamic widgets in zope at the moment | 13:55 |
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| volvox | it is surely possible to customize one | 13:55 |
| volvox | what you're going to customize also depends on whether you need ajax or not | 13:56 |
| volvox | i guess you could also use the tree widget, which is the one top-left in the ZMI | 13:57 |
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| eins | volvox I don't need ajax | 14:34 |
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| eins | I'm trying to implement my own "dynamic" widget which would retrieve its values depending on what is chosen in "previous" combo | 14:36 |
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| eins | however it will only be a workaround, not a solution | 14:54 |
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| pindonga | hi. can anyone tell me what the equivalent for portal_metadata in zope3 is? ( I want to rewrite a product that used portal_metadata) | 16:01 |
| srichter | what is portal_metadata? | 16:04 |
| agroszer | hi, srichter | 16:04 |
| srichter | agroszer: hi | 16:05 |
| srichter | agroszer: do you think you could cut a Windows release for the beta? | 16:05 |
| agroszer | done that already :-) | 16:05 |
| agroszer | efrerich said that he'll test it | 16:05 |
| srichter | yipee! | 16:06 |
| srichter | if you don't have access to upload it, send me an E-mail | 16:06 |
| pindonga | srichter... I am sorry... I meant portal_memberdata (from cmf) | 16:06 |
| srichter | or even better: | 16:06 |
| agroszer | do you think that we should wait until efrerich checks it? | 16:06 |
| rocky|new-baby | srichter: two sets of pics to throw at you ... my new baby --> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rockyburt/sets/72057594129967737/ and i finally got the snow sprint pics online --> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rockyburt/sets/72057594129982383/ | 16:07 |
| srichter | j1m_: could you give agroszer manage access to the Zope 3 Products folder on www.zope.org, so he can upload Windows releases? | 16:07 |
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| srichter | pindonga: I do not know what portal_memberdata is or does | 16:07 |
| srichter | rocky|new-baby: looking at them now ... :-) | 16:07 |
| agroszer | yeah, srichter, about pictures: have you the pictures of the swiss sprint online? | 16:08 |
| rocky|new-baby | pindonga: to my knowledge there is no equivalent of portal_memberdata in z3 ... z3 mostly uses its own equivalent of z2 acl_users for such things | 16:08 |
| srichter | no, I am still totally overwhelmed by things to do | 16:09 |
| pindonga | ok... I thought it was more popular (my mistake). Basically its just a tool that comes with cmf to allow to extend the members attributes. That way you can add some custom attributes to the member objects. | 16:10 |
| pindonga | rocky: how would you replace the memberdata part of a zope2 product then? | 16:10 |
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| srichter | In Zope 3 you can do this by listening to IPRincipalCreated events | 16:11 |
| srichter | the homefolder implementation is an example of how to do this | 16:11 |
| agroszer | srichter: me too, kind of... spent 1.5 weeks only with learning for the exam | 16:11 |
| pindonga | alright. I will look into that example, then. Do you know if I can backport this to zope2 through five too? | 16:12 |
| agroszer | (j1m_: agroszer = adamg on zope.org) | 16:12 |
| srichter | agroszer: are you done now; all set? :-) | 16:12 |
| srichter | pindonga: this will only work if you use our authentication module; I am not sure wether the PAS ported to Zope 2 does the same sort of things | 16:13 |
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| agroszer | I did it on 2nd may, 4.7 total-average-endresult | 16:14 |
| pindonga | ok. I should then ask the zope2 guys if its possible to listen for IPrincipalCreated events using five, right? | 16:14 |
| srichter | agroszer: what is the schale in hungary? | 16:14 |
| regebro | pindonga: It's possible to listen for them- | 16:15 |
| srichter | pindonga: you have to ask them whether they create principals on the fly and create an event upon creation | 16:15 |
| regebro | But nothing emits them, so you have no particular joy about it. :P | 16:15 |
| agroszer | srichter: 1=try again, 5=best | 16:15 |
| pindonga | ok. than you | 16:15 |
| srichter | agroszer: congrats then! :-) | 16:16 |
| agroszer | thanx | 16:16 |
| regebro | pindonga: But that's of course only a problem if you want to write an application that runs under both Zope2 and Zope3, unmodified. And you can't do that yet anyway. :) | 16:16 |
| pindonga | nouri, but what I was thinking is to develop a zope3 app and then adapt it to zope2 using five | 16:17 |
| pindonga | wouln't that work either? | 16:17 |
| agroszer | srichter: back to the release, should I wait for efrerich to check it, or simply upload it? with maybe a remark that it's a bit experimental | 16:18 |
| srichter | agroszer: just upload it; this way it is exposed to more people | 16:20 |
| agroszer | ok | 16:20 |
| agroszer | you are the release-manager :-) | 16:20 |
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| regebro | pindonga: Yes, it would work. But the word is "adapt". User-handling would need to become adapted, for example. | 16:25 |
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| efrerich | agroszer: I'm back | 16:33 |
| agroszer | efrerich: how can I pass it to you? it's around 8mb | 16:34 |
| srichter | benji: can you give agroszer manage rights in the folder www.zope.org/Products/Zope3 ? | 16:35 |
| efrerich | if you uploaded it as srichter said I would download it from the product page | 16:35 |
| pindonga | regebro: ok.. that would be no problem I think.. then I could write my zope3 product, and then write a zope2 product that works with five, and adapts the zope3 product to zope2 (or viceversa, I dont quite know) | 16:37 |
| regebro | Sure. | 16:37 |
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| efrerich | agroszer: or can you send it via IRC | 16:39 |
| agroszer | wait a sec, if Stephan can catch somebody from zc | 16:40 |
| srichter | they seem to be all out... | 16:40 |
| srichter | j1m_: are you there? | 16:40 |
| srichter | d2m: do you have the right permissions to make agroszer a manager of the Zope 3 products folder? | 16:41 |
| agroszer | ok, then through irc | 16:43 |
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| agroszer | seems that it requires private messages... | 16:46 |
| agroszer | and I'm not yet registered for that | 16:46 |
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| efrerich | agroszer: ok | 16:49 |
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| efrerich | agroszer: maybe you send me the file per mail | 17:01 |
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| agroszer | efrerich: check your mail | 17:03 |
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| agroszer | efrerich: check your mailbox | 17:04 |
| efrerich | agroszer: thx | 17:08 |
| efrerich | agroszer: file got | 17:12 |
| agroszer | cool | 17:14 |
| efrerich | installation complete | 17:20 |
| agroszer | look at this: | 17:21 |
| agroszer | http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/ZopeWindowsRelease | 17:21 |
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| agroszer | after the build procedure there are some tests described | 17:21 |
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| efrerich | agroszer: yes, I'll test | 17:29 |
| efrerich | now I can say: instance created, Zope 3 is running | 17:29 |
| agroszer | cool, thx | 17:29 |
| agroszer | I think it'll work, but I didn't compile it with the big VStudio2005 | 17:30 |
| efrerich | srichter: in the README.txt it should be runzope.bat not runzope | 17:30 |
| agroszer | so at MS you never know | 17:30 |
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| srichter | efrerich: feel free to correct it | 17:32 |
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| efrerich | agroszer: The runtime version is 'Development/Unknown' | 17:41 |
| agroszer | ok, I'll look for it | 17:42 |
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| efrerich | agroszer: Now I remember an issue with formlib. It has an own domain and we | 17:52 |
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| efrerich | should ask on dev if the domain should be zope. Now there are only translations into German | 17:53 |
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| agroszer | would you ask, please | 17:55 |
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| efrerich | agroszer: I stopped the server, put a little application into the instance, and started the server again. | 18:05 |
| efrerich | Everything is ok. | 18:05 |
| agroszer | cool | 18:06 |
| * agroszer is happy | 18:06 | |
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| efrerich | (and I get my first deprecation warning). | 18:09 |
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| efrerich | agroszer: I don't find test.py in the distribution | 18:25 |
| agroszer | I think it's a test.bat | 18:25 |
| agroszer | in the instance/bin, maybe? | 18:26 |
| efrerich | yes | 18:26 |
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| efrerich | but I assume this is only for the packages in the instance | 18:28 |
| efrerich | There I get 'Total: 0 tests, 0 failures, 0 errors' :-) | 18:29 |
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| agroszer | huh, I don't remember... | 18:29 |
| agroszer | what about "bin\test.bat -vv --testzope" | 18:29 |
| efrerich | btw the weatherreport told me we would have rain, maybe thunderstorm | 18:29 |
| agroszer | unplug everything :-) | 18:30 |
| efrerich | but we have a sunny day - so I must go to the garden watering | 18:30 |
| efrerich | I think your distribution is ok and should be uploaded | 18:31 |
| agroszer | cool | 18:31 |
| agroszer | then I'll wait for somebody to grant the permissions | 18:32 |
| efrerich | srichter: I can change README.txt in svn | 18:32 |
| efrerich | srichter: but I assume you have to do something with http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope3/3.3.0b1/README.txt | 18:33 |
| efrerich | leaving now | 18:34 |
| agroszer | bye | 18:34 |
| srichter | yeah, I will do that | 18:34 |
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| j1m_ | srichter, looking for me? | 18:47 |
| srichter | j1m_: yeah, agroszer needs amange access to Products/Zope3, so he can upload Windows releases | 18:48 |
| MacYET | morning | 18:48 |
| j1m_ | MacYET, are you visiting the States? | 18:49 |
| agroszer | moin, Mac | 18:49 |
| MacYET | j1m_: /me looks at the look, it's possibly afternoon :) | 18:50 |
| MacYET | at the clock | 18:50 |
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| volvox | in an nextURL() method, how do I get a hold on the parent container object? self.context is the Adding view.. should I override add() too, and get a reference to the parent or is there a cleaner way? | 19:20 |
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| alecm | volvox: self.context.context ? | 19:35 |
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| volvox | exactly, thanks, better than __parent__! The URL is right now, but It raises TypeError(_insufficientContext) when calling index... | 19:40 |
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| srichter | benji: is it possible to ask the SetIndex to select by a missing value? | 20:42 |
| benji | no idea, srichter | 20:43 |
| srichter | mmh, who wrote zc.catalog.index? | 20:43 |
| benji | don't know, but Gary knows a lot about it | 20:44 |
| srichter | is Gary around? | 20:44 |
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| benji | he's in a meeting at the moment, I'll IM him and ask him to get on IRC when he has a chance | 20:48 |
| benji | hmm, except that he's not on IM either | 20:48 |
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| srichter | ok, thanks | 20:49 |
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| j1m_ | srichter, agroszer should be a manager for Products/Zope3 now | 21:14 |
| agroszer | thanx, j1m | 21:15 |
| agroszer | j1m_: seems like nothing changed | 21:17 |
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| benji | srichter, Gary says that SetIndex can do a "None" query if you use an ExtentCatalog (it's described in setindex.txt) | 21:29 |
| srichter | ok, that's what I thought | 21:30 |
| srichter | this is no more efficient than what Martijn does in in hurry.query.Not | 21:30 |
| agroszer | srichter: what's the difference on http://zope.org/Products/Zope3 between a manager and not manager mode? | 21:31 |
| agroszer | what's the link/button name to upload? | 21:32 |
| srichter | agroszer: hold on | 21:34 |
| srichter | agroszer: click on "Folder Contents" | 21:35 |
| agroszer | yep | 21:35 |
| srichter | agroszer: in the list that will appear click on "3.3.0b1" | 21:35 |
| agroszer | yep | 21:35 |
| srichter | agroszer: Change the dropdown that has "Select" in it to "software Release File" | 21:36 |
| agroszer | :-( | 21:36 |
| srichter | agroszer: Click on "Add new item" | 21:36 |
| agroszer | that's missing | 21:36 |
| srichter | ok, so you do not have the right permissions | 21:36 |
| j1m_ | the local roles screen is sooooooooo slow | 21:37 |
| j1m_ | I think I have you the local role. | 21:37 |
| j1m_ | I went on to something else before the screen came back so I don't know for sure. | 21:37 |
| srichter | :-( | 21:38 |
| j1m_ | It might be simpler for now to send srichter the exec and let him upload it. Sorry to say. | 21:38 |
| j1m_ | OK, there he is. | 21:38 |
| j1m_ | agroszer, your zope.org id is agroszer, right? | 21:38 |
| agroszer | no, it's "adamg" | 21:39 |
| j1m_ | That would have been useful information. :( | 21:39 |
| * j1m_ makes a big frown | 21:39 | |
| srichter | aha | 21:39 |
| agroszer | sorry | 21:39 |
| agroszer | I typed that somewhere earlier | 21:40 |
| agroszer | a lot earlier | 21:40 |
| j1m_ | OK, now adamg is a manager too. | 21:43 |
| agroszer | yep, confirmed, thanx, sorry... | 21:44 |
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| agroszer | srichter: seems like it worked | 21:57 |
| agroszer | g'night | 21:58 |
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| efrerich | srichter: on 'http://zope.org/Products/Zope3' is 3.3.0b1 missing | 22:41 |
| srichter | efrerich: not in my browser | 22:44 |
| srichter | probably a caching problem | 22:44 |
| srichter | oh, I know why | 22:44 |
| srichter | I am logged in | 22:44 |
| srichter | adam forgot to publish the Windows file | 22:45 |
| srichter | try again, I just published it | 22:45 |
| srichter | I can see it now | 22:46 |
| srichter | without being logged in | 22:46 |
| efrerich | yes - it is there! | 22:51 |
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| oferw | philiKON: I have updated file for the Hebrew, there are values in the file that I am not sure how to translate | 23:48 |
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| efrerich | oferw: I send you a mail | 23:58 |
| oferw | efrerich: I am just now reading the fairy tail ;-) | 23:59 |
| oferw | fairy tale | 23:59 |
| oferw | so I will upload the file now and test it | 23:59 |
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