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| flox | is there any way to know which packages are loaded? | 13:05 |
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| flox | through the ZMI | 13:05 |
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| flox | in Zope2 we can go to the Control_Panel and check that products are correctly loaded | 13:07 |
| flox | how we can do the same for packages in Zope3? | 13:07 |
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| philiKON | flox, z3 will barf at you when the modules can't be loaded | 13:13 |
| philiKON | flox, zope 2 does *tons* of magic when loading products | 13:13 |
| philiKON | z3 just doesn't do that | 13:13 |
| philiKON | either you get an ImportError, SyntaxError (from your python code) or a ConfigurationError (from ZCML) | 13:13 |
| mgedmin | I do agree that sometimes it would be useful to see a list of zcml files that were loaded | 13:14 |
| mgedmin | if you do not get an error that may mean two things: (1) the package you're interested in was loaded successfully, or (2) it was never referenced from your zcml configuration | 13:14 |
| philiKON | true | 13:14 |
| philiKON | shouldn't be too hard to do since zcml keeps track of all loaded files nayways | 13:15 |
| flox | something cool is the /++apidoc++/Code/ thing | 13:15 |
| flox | AFAIK it does not work for the $INSTANCE/lib/python packages | 13:16 |
| flox | u don't think we should hv the same for 'custom' packages? | 13:19 |
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| philiKON | flox, that's weird. it should work with any packages (except eggs, but it'd be cool if it could be made to support eggs, too) | 13:38 |
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| flox | philiKON: what u call 'eggs' are the custom packages you drop into the $INSTANCE/lib/python ? | 14:24 |
| flox | oups... he's not here... i'll post later | 14:25 |
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| rocky | flox: no, eggs are zip files containing py code | 14:33 |
| flox | rocky: ok, is there somewhere i can learn why and how to use these eggs | 14:36 |
| rocky | flox: are you familiar with distutils ? | 14:37 |
| flox | no | 14:37 |
| rocky | oh, you're new to python in general ? | 14:37 |
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| flox | i ggle 'distutils' ... | 14:37 |
| rocky | flox: http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools describes eggs | 14:37 |
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| flox | rocky: i read... this page is the good one: http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/PythonEggs | 14:50 |
| flox | rocky: thank you | 14:50 |
| rocky | np | 14:50 |
| flox | rocky: i discovered Python when i started using Plone, 10 months ago... | 14:51 |
| rocky | ah ic | 14:51 |
| ignas | what's with the install module required for evolution ? | 14:55 |
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| mgedmin | for the record, the bugfix in http://svn.zope.org/?rev=68759&view=rev is not entirely correct | 16:13 |
| mgedmin | it broke schooltool, prompting ignas's question above | 16:13 |
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| philiKON | mgedmin, amend the corresponding issue so Theuni knows | 16:32 |
| mgedmin | ignas already sent an email, didn't you, ignas? | 16:33 |
| ignas | yes sent one, hope it passes through | 16:33 |
| philiKON | something's rotten on mail.zope.org | 16:33 |
| ignas | as i got 1 failed delivery notification, and 1 waiting for confimation ... | 16:33 |
| philiKON | best is probably to just follow up on the collector entry | 16:34 |
| ignas | what's the id of the issue ? | 16:34 |
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| mgedmin | CHANGES.txt did not mention an issue number -- I suspect there may not be one | 16:36 |
| philiKON | hmm, i thought there was one... | 16:38 |
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| ignas | can't connect to the collector :/ | 16:42 |
| philiKON | ignas, http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev works for me | 16:43 |
| ignas | philiKON: got some problems with internet here ... | 16:43 |
| flox | xmlns:global_translation="http://namespaces.zope.org/gts" | 16:44 |
| flox | it is obsolete? replaced by i18n? | 16:44 |
| philiKON | yup | 16:45 |
| * philiKON wonders where flox picked that dinosaur up | 16:45 | |
| flox | here: http://www.afpy.org/Members/gawel/zope/z3_minimalcontent | 16:45 |
| mgedmin | ignas: I can reach the collector (by tricking my DNS resolver to avoid .lt internet brokenness of today) | 16:45 |
| philiKON | lol. whole lithuania has inet problems today? | 16:46 |
| ignas | yes | 16:46 |
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| philiKON | wow | 16:46 |
| * flox is looking for many Zope3 examples... to learn quicker | 16:46 | |
| mgedmin | well, there are two big ISPs that connect to the outside, and one of them has problems today | 16:46 |
| philiKON | ic | 16:47 |
| mgedmin | they claim the problem is somewhere in Latvia | 16:47 |
| philiKON | rofl. push it down the pipe :) | 16:47 |
| * mgedmin cannot find an issue about generations and import errors in the collector | 16:47 | |
| philiKON | me neither | 16:48 |
| philiKON | sorry, i could've sworn that there was one... | 16:48 |
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