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| amoz | hello to all users | 12:18 |
| amoz | I'm a newbie..I'm searching for a z3 skilled user | 12:18 |
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| baijum | amoz: just ask your questions... | 12:30 |
| amoz | ok.. | 12:30 |
| amoz | I'm trying to build a control panel | 12:31 |
| amoz | this would be a normal html page of a site | 12:32 |
| amoz | this page must be a form who write (and update) data on pgsql database | 12:33 |
| amoz | so I need a zope page template? or a dtml page? | 12:40 |
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| baijum | amoz, dtml is not supported in Zope 3 till now, afaik | 12:44 |
| amoz | ok, thi is an important new for me | 12:45 |
| flox | baijum: what you mean, when you write "not supported" ? | 12:46 |
| flox | bec we find "DTML page" in the last release | 12:47 |
| flox | it means it becomes obsolete? | 12:47 |
| baijum | flox: 3.2 release ? | 12:48 |
| flox | 3.3beta1 | 12:48 |
| flox | don't know for other releases | 12:49 |
| baijum | oh! then I misses that news :( | 12:49 |
| flox | i did not try previous releases | 12:49 |
| amoz | so dtml is not obsolete...I use 3.2 release | 12:50 |
| flox | amoz: but it is less used with zope3... | 12:51 |
| amoz | ok zpt are the future? | 12:52 |
| harobed | amoz, yes | 12:53 |
| amoz | so basically..what i need is: a zpt page, a pgsql adapter and... | 12:53 |
| amoz | ..something that helps me to build html forms | 12:53 |
| harobed | amoz, schema | 12:54 |
| harobed | amoz, build form example is in Zope3Book | 12:54 |
| amoz | 2nd important question: z3 products must have a particular "look"? | 12:55 |
| baijum | flox: I was looking at CHANGES.txt, cann't find anything about DTML, from where you got this? | 12:55 |
| amoz | I mean required files or folders | 12:56 |
| flox | maybe DTML2 is future of DTML... http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/DocumentTemplateMarkupLanguage2 | 12:56 |
| flox | but this proposal has no follow-up AFAIK | 12:56 |
| flox | better to use ZPT | 12:57 |
| amoz | yesss | 12:57 |
| flox | baijum: zope.app.dtmlpage | 12:57 |
| amoz | 3d question: where I can find zope.app.dtmlpage files? | 12:58 |
| flox | and zope.documenttemplate | 12:58 |
| flox | amoz: within your zope package, within Python 'Lib' directory | 12:59 |
| flox | if u use same version as me, ie version 3.3.0beta1 | 12:59 |
| amoz | i use 3.2.1 | 13:01 |
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| flox | it is included in 3.2.1, when i read the DEPENDENCIES.cfg | 13:16 |
| flox | http://svn.zope.org/Zope3/tags/Zope-3.2.1/releases/Zope/DEPENDENCIES.cfg?view=markup | 13:16 |
| flox | (zope.app.stmlpage) | 13:16 |
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| Bernulf | hello! small question - i need a Image class which saves the image data to the file system instead of zodb. The images should also be saved in a virtual root on the filesystem and things like copy and paste in the zmi should affect the stored images in the filesystem (even with subfolders and so on). It there allready such a thing out? | 14:37 |
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| andrew_m | Bernulf: i don't know if that exists already, but with subscribers you could relatively easily store the images on the file system (in addition to the ZODB)... just a thought | 14:41 |
| Bernulf | all right, thanks :) I only wanted to know if I could save time :) | 14:45 |
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| waglik | hello! | 15:58 |
| waglik | is there an elegant way to pass information between formlib SubForm and PageForm it's embedded in? | 15:59 |
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| waglik | right now I'm just looking into request object, but I'm wondering if there is a better way | 16:00 |
| waglik | another question: how to build master / detail forms using formlib? | 16:03 |
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| zagy | hurm | 16:53 |
| zagy | i'm hunting an issue with mkzopeinstance setting the wrong software home | 16:54 |
| zagy | python's import behaviour is not quite clear to me any longer... | 16:54 |
| zagy | anybody there? | 16:55 |
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| zagy | oh well | 16:59 |
| zagy | posted on http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/683 then | 16:59 |
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| timte | zagy: it's already reported as 630 | 17:01 |
| zagy | doh! | 17:02 |
| zagy | and I searched 5 minutes =) | 17:02 |
| timte | I've found the code that causes this, but I don't know why it happens. | 17:02 |
| zagy | yes, same here | 17:02 |
| zagy | I have no idea why the global zope package gets imported | 17:03 |
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| timte | it's because of the stuff in zope/__init__.py | 17:03 |
| timte | if you comment that it'll work | 17:03 |
| zagy | which zope? | 17:03 |
| timte | lib/python/zope | 17:04 |
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| timte | zagy: do you know what pkg_resources is used for? | 17:06 |
| zagy | yes | 17:06 |
| zagy | that's part of the setup tools / egg thingies | 17:07 |
| zagy | but | 17:07 |
| zagy | it might be a but in python... | 17:07 |
| zagy | pdb in src/__init__.py | 17:07 |
| zagy | > /Users/zagy/development/zeit/frontend-zope/cms/trunk/parts/zope3/src/zope/__init__.py(17)?() | 17:07 |
| zagy | -> try: | 17:07 |
| zagy | (Pdb) p __file__ | 17:07 |
| zagy | '/Users/zagy/development/zeit/frontend-zope/cms/trunk/parts/zope3/src/zope/__init__.pyc' | 17:07 |
| zagy | 17:07 | |
| zagy | no | 17:07 |
| zagy | wait | 17:07 |
| zagy | now it works | 17:07 |
| zagy | aha | 17:07 |
| zagy | no | 17:07 |
| zagy | right | 17:07 |
| zagy | after the declare namespace | 17:07 |
| timte | :) | 17:07 |
| zagy | the __file__ has changed | 17:07 |
| zagy | so no bug in python *pfew* | 17:08 |
| zagy | :)_ | 17:08 |
| timte | what is declare_namespace('zope') supposed to do? | 17:08 |
| zagy | i'm not quite sure :) | 17:10 |
| zagy | timte: check http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools#namespace-packages | 17:11 |
| timte | sidnei is the guilty one | 17:11 |
| timte | is it possible to debug inside pkg_resources? | 17:20 |
| timte | so I guess I understand the meaning of this namespace | 17:21 |
| timte | it complicates things :/ | 17:23 |
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| SmokeyD | hi all, is there a way to check if an attribute is unique for a set of zope objects? | 20:55 |
| SmokeyD | I've got a folder with several objects | 20:55 |
| SmokeyD | and I want to give each an attribute which is unique for all the objects in the folder | 20:55 |
| benji | SmokeyD: I don't have enough info about what you're trying to do to be sure, but you might be interested in the "int id" utility | 20:56 |
| SmokeyD | I'll look at it. Thanks. I've got a couple of container objects in a folder and I want to give them all a unique id, apart from __name__ | 20:57 |
| benji | may I ask why? | 20:58 |
| SmokeyD | Their name is to long and it can contain spaces and stuff. I want an easier id to reference them on | 20:58 |
| SmokeyD | from within objects which are contained in the container objects | 20:59 |
| SmokeyD | I'm accessing stuff in an sql database | 20:59 |
| SmokeyD | I want to display data in the view of the different objects for only that zope object | 21:00 |
| SmokeyD | this way I can use the unique id numbers of the objects in the sql table | 21:01 |
| benji | yep, it sounds like IIntiIds will work for you | 21:01 |
| SmokeyD | ok, thanks | 21:01 |
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| SmokeyD | It's indeed what I'm looking for benji | 21:09 |
| benji | cool | 21:09 |
| SmokeyD | I've got another question. very basic I think | 21:09 |
| SmokeyD | Is it possible to make one object be contained in several containers | 21:09 |
| SmokeyD | Like when I have two container objects, one with projects and one with partners | 21:10 |
| SmokeyD | and I would like the objects located in the partner objects to be part of several objects in the projects container | 21:10 |
| SmokeyD | One partner which is a member of several projects | 21:12 |
| SmokeyD | Or should I do it by making a ProjectMember object, which has as an attribute the Id of a specific partner. So the ProjectMember objects link to the Partners | 21:13 |
| SmokeyD | An ProjectMember objects are contained inside a Project in the Project container, and Partners in the Partner Partners container | 21:14 |
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| benji | SmokeyD: I have to go, but (if it's been open sourced) zc.shortcut does something like that | 21:34 |
| waglik | is there a rich text editor prepared for zope3? something similar to epoz or kupu? | 21:35 |
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| flox | waglik: i don't think there's something ready for z3 | 21:50 |
| flox | but you can adapt, with some effort, any existing package (kupu or fckeditor, or other...) | 21:51 |
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| waglik | flox: right now, I'm looking at tinymce | 22:30 |
| waglik | I think there was some work done on it in z3c.widget package | 22:31 |
| waglik | maybe I'l finish it :) | 22:32 |
| waglik | btw. is it possible to send the zope contributor agreement by fax or e-mail, or do I have to send it by snail mail? | 22:32 |
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| flox | waglik: send by e-mail, i think it is ok | 22:40 |
| flox | u sign and scan the agreement | 22:40 |
| waglik | ok, I'll do that | 22:41 |
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| dobee | waglik: z3c.widget.tiny ready for use | 23:12 |
| waglik | whoa! | 23:13 |
| dobee | i use it in production | 23:13 |
| waglik | I'm checking it out right now | 23:13 |
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