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| projekt01 | benji, ayt? | 00:33 |
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| projekt01 | benji, is it possible to implement a method in testbrowser which opens a browser with contents from a test | 00:35 |
| projekt01 | e.g. showOutputInBrowser(browser.contents) | 00:36 |
| philiKON | projekt01, sure | 00:36 |
| philiKON | pseudo code: | 00:36 |
| projekt01 | Hi philiKON | 00:36 |
| philiKON | tempfile().write(brwoser.contents) | 00:36 |
| philiKON | import webbrowser | 00:37 |
| philiKON | webbrowser.open(tmpfile.filename) | 00:37 |
| philiKON | probably don't use the tempfile module because those temporary files disappear again | 00:37 |
| projekt01 | does import webbrowser exist? | 00:37 |
| philiKON | sure | 00:37 |
| philiKON | standard python library | 00:37 |
| philiKON | http://docs.python.org/lib/module-webbrowser.html | 00:38 |
| projekt01 | Ah, didn't know about that | 00:38 |
| philiKON | RTFM :) | 00:38 |
| projekt01 | Many thanks, will take a look at that | 00:38 |
| philiKON | np | 00:38 |
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| flox|away | philiKON, ur site is out-of-order ? | 15:44 |
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| flox | "Connection timed out to worldcookery.com:80" | 15:44 |
| philiKON | flox, maintenance | 15:45 |
| philiKON | will be back up in 10 min | 15:45 |
| flox | good | 15:45 |
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| philiKON | hi J1m | 16:03 |
| philiKON | J1m, got 2 mins? | 16:03 |
| d2m | J1m: put me in the row | 16:10 |
| philiKON | d2m, get in line there :) | 16:11 |
| * d2m gets in line | 16:11 | |
| philiKON | don't forget to draw a number :) | 16:12 |
| * d2m draws a lucky '23' ;) | 16:13 | |
| philiKON | touch luck, i have a '12'. | 16:14 |
| philiKON | s/touch/tough/ | 16:14 |
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| J1m | philiKON: what's up? | 17:05 |
| * J1m needs to find a decent irc client for the mac | 17:06 | |
| philiKON | i'm trying to understand some design decisions w/ the catalog, intids, keyreferences | 17:06 |
| philiKON | (i'm using xchataqua.sf.net, most people prefer colloquy i guess) | 17:06 |
| philiKON | (note that growl notifications help with the attention) | 17:06 |
| J1m | colloquy sucks | 17:06 |
| philiKON | so, here's my question | 17:06 |
| philiKON | it's really only about reassurance | 17:07 |
| philiKON | indices cannot hold on to the actual objects for obvious reasons | 17:07 |
| philiKON | (direct references, etc.) | 17:07 |
| philiKON | that's why they hold on to something else | 17:07 |
| philiKON | an abstraction | 17:08 |
| philiKON | something that's uniquely identified with the object | 17:08 |
| philiKON | i guess integers were chosen here because managing integer IDs in an index is both straight forward and most performant? | 17:08 |
| philiKON | i mean, why do we take the detour thru the intid utility | 17:09 |
| philiKON | indices could directly store keyreferences | 17:09 |
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| philiKON | but, i guess, they shouldn't be bothered with it | 17:09 |
| philiKON | and it's more efficient to deal with integers | 17:09 |
| philiKON | right? | 17:09 |
| J1m | Integers are used soley for performance. | 17:09 |
| philiKON | ok. that's what i thought (not the "solely", though) | 17:09 |
| philiKON | so, the intid utility detour is there so that indices only have to deal with integers, because that's fast (IOBTree, etc.) | 17:10 |
| J1m | Well, that's a very very good reason. | 17:10 |
| J1m | yes | 17:10 |
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| philiKON | yes, it's a good reason | 17:10 |
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| philiKON | i guess it also makes implementing indices easier | 17:10 |
| philiKON | you don't have to worry as much | 17:10 |
| philiKON | you only deal with integers | 17:10 |
| philiKON | all the hard part about weak referencing objects, etc. is in the intid utility | 17:11 |
| philiKON | i just wanted to get this story straight since i'm in the process of documenting it :) | 17:11 |
| J1m | well, it would have been easy enough to use key references, but much less efficient. | 17:11 |
| philiKON | ok | 17:11 |
| philiKON | thanks | 17:13 |
| philiKON | d2m, you're next :) | 17:13 |
| tiredbones | After a long hiatus from zope Im getting back into learning to code for it again. Is there a way to get the sign-on and passwrd for the instance of WorldCookery instance? I misplace my notes and can't seem to recall it. | 17:13 |
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| philiKON | tiredbones, take a look at $INSTANCE/etc/principals.zcml | 17:14 |
| philiKON | tiredbones, if the pw is stored in plaintext, you can see it | 17:14 |
| philiKON | otherwise, you can reset it there | 17:15 |
| tiredbones | thanks, philiKON | 17:15 |
| philiKON | np | 17:15 |
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| d2m | J1m: webmaster@zope.org (http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zopeorg-webmaster) is not working since August 15 -- could you look into this ? | 17:20 |
| d2m | no thats thiming | 17:20 |
| philiKON | d2m, write an email to sa@zope.com | 17:21 |
| d2m | heh, thanks | 17:21 |
| philiKON | (system administration) | 17:21 |
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| philiKON | last time i reported a mail problem there, a mark w. alexander fixed it | 17:21 |
| philiKON | seems to be their systems guy | 17:21 |
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| rocky | what's a good design pattern for registering adapters based on mime type of something? basically i want to do: runner = ITaskRunner(some_mime_type); runner.run() | 18:50 |
| philiKON | what's some_mime_type? | 18:57 |
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