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| danfairs | hi, I'm getting an error on startup from a clean Zope 3.3.0 RC1 | 01:54 |
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| danfairs | Traceback here: http://paste.plone.org/10692 | 01:54 |
| danfairs | missing meta.zcml from zope.app.mail? | 01:54 |
| philiKON | no | 01:55 |
| philiKON | you're using an old instance | 01:55 |
| philiKON | like, a zope 3.2 instance with zope 3.3 | 01:55 |
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| philiKON | create a new instance from zope 3.3 | 01:55 |
| danfairs | hm - yeah, it's 11:30 pm her | 01:55 |
| philiKON | and copy over the packages and var/* | 01:55 |
| danfairs | here and I probably forgot to delete the old 3.2 instance ;) | 01:55 |
| philiKON | and perhaps zope.conf | 01:55 |
| danfairs | thanks philiKON | 01:56 |
| danfairs | yup, that solved it. More sleep required! Thanks again. | 01:58 |
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| eins | hi | 08:01 |
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| febb | hello all ! | 09:02 |
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| romanofski | moin | 09:38 |
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| rocky | anyone know how webdav compares in zope2 and zope3 these days? | 15:10 |
| srichter | rocky: the default webdav code in the core is pretty much the same, but the new stuff mkerrin did is quiet a bit different --> you definitely should use mkerrin's stuff | 15:15 |
| rocky | mkerrin's stuff is only in z3 ? | 15:15 |
| srichter | yep | 15:15 |
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| philiKON | srichter, that sounds misleading :) | 15:23 |
| philiKON | the zope 3 webdav stuff is pretty much the same as it was in zope x3 3.0 | 15:23 |
| philiKON | which means it's old, incomplete and possibly broken | 15:24 |
| philiKON | rocky, zope 2's webdav is more powerful and more tested | 15:24 |
| rocky | wow, that's quite a different impression altogether ;) | 15:24 |
| philiKON | of course, mkerrin's extra packages probably solve most of the problems for zope 3 | 15:24 |
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| philiKON | but, again, mkerrin's stuff is new and probably not yet tested at a lot | 15:25 |
| philiKON | and it's not core to z3 | 15:25 |
| srichter | I would not use anything else, though | 15:26 |
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| srichter | I know that the old Zope 3's stuff is effectively a port of Zope 2's code, and it was not nice | 15:27 |
| philiKON | it's far from a port of zope 2's code | 15:28 |
| philiKON | there are a few similarities, e.g. the both use minidom | 15:28 |
| philiKON | but zope2's code is much more mature | 15:28 |
| philiKON | and yeah, i'd not bother with anything else than mkerrin's stuff in zope 3 | 15:29 |
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| rocky | i'm only asking since i saw the pywebdav release announcement on cheeseshop | 15:35 |
| rocky | ;) | 15:35 |
| philiKON | ah | 15:37 |
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| jinty | hmm, anyone got any suggestions/examples of how to implement a form where the values of one vocabulary depend on another vocabulary in the same form? | 17:53 |
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| mgedmin | that's tricky | 17:56 |
| srichter | jinty: I have not seen such code, but I know what you are referring to | 17:56 |
| mgedmin | one possible way is to write javascript | 17:56 |
| jinty | I was trying to avoid too much of that | 17:56 |
| srichter | yeah, that's what is commonly done | 17:56 |
| jinty | one way I thought of was to submit the form on the selection of the first value, thn do some magic in the view | 17:57 |
| jinty | that small drop of javascript I can stand | 17:57 |
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| kobold | jinty: you can probably do this using azax. | 18:00 |
| * jinty googles for azax | 18:01 | |
| jinty | ah, yeah, thought about that as well | 18:02 |
| jinty | was more just checking if there was a common "right" solution. Seems there isn't... | 18:02 |
| kobold | jinty: this is what you need, http://azaxdemo.ree.hu/two_selects.html | 18:04 |
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| jinty | kobold: thanks! looks nice, will investigate what's behind it | 18:07 |
| srichter | jinty: it would be really nice, if you could contribute the Zope code behind this back :-) | 18:09 |
| srichter | oh, it uses AJAX with KSS :-( | 18:09 |
| srichter | and does not work in Konqui :-( | 18:09 |
| jinty | ahh | 18:09 |
| jinty | it's also not testable | 18:10 |
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| jinty | unless testbrowser has somehow learned javascript;) | 18:10 |
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| srichter | jinty: right, but benji is working on a selenium-driven version :-) | 18:16 |
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| WebMaven | Morning folks. | 18:20 |
| WebMaven | I've got a conundrum, and lack the unix/python chops to diagnose it further. | 18:20 |
| srichter | shoot :-) | 18:21 |
| WebMaven | As far as I can tell, the Zope daemon restarts the main zope process at some point overnight, after which it loses access to a bunch of libraries installed as eggs. | 18:21 |
| WebMaven | So, Zope itself is running, but my app breaks. | 18:22 |
| WebMaven | Or, at least, that's what I thought was happening. | 18:22 |
| srichter | ok, maybe the way this thing restarts does not use the same script? | 18:23 |
| srichter | so that the incorrect Python paths are setup | 18:23 |
| WebMaven | With some advice from pje, I got my host to alter the sitecustomize.py file so an explicit export PYTHONPATH is no longer necessary for the libraries to import correctly in the first place. | 18:23 |
| WebMaven | srichter: Maybe, but I was very careful not to actually make any changes to the startup script. it is a vanilla Zope3.2 install, aside from my app. | 18:24 |
| WebMaven | It's also possible that I misdignosed the problem in the first place. | 18:25 |
| WebMaven | The remaining symptom is that after the restart, it can't find the MySQL connection. | 18:25 |
| srichter | strange | 18:26 |
| WebMaven | But, I don't need to do anything to MySQL at all. | 18:26 |
| WebMaven | Just ./zopectl restart | 18:26 |
| WebMaven | (which was the fix before, too) | 18:26 |
| srichter | mmh, strange | 18:27 |
| WebMaven | first step of the fix was to do export PYTHONPATH=$HOME/lib/python2.4 and the ./zopectl restart | 18:27 |
| WebMaven | second step was to add the export to .bash_profile | 18:28 |
| WebMaven | ./zopectl restart still necessary. | 18:28 |
| WebMaven | third step was to have the host alter their sitecustomize.py like this: | 18:28 |
| WebMaven | import os, site | 18:29 |
| WebMaven | site.addsitedir(os.path.expanduser('~/lib/python2.4')) | 18:29 |
| srichter | wow | 18:29 |
| srichter | what a hack :-) | 18:29 |
| WebMaven | so I could remove the .bash_profile customization. | 18:29 |
| srichter | right | 18:29 |
| srichter | I am 90% sure your manual and automated startup are not the same script | 18:30 |
| srichter | or do not do the same thing | 18:30 |
| WebMaven | Well, that's instead of just plopping it into sys.path, which wasn't doing it for eggs without the export. | 18:30 |
| srichter | of course, without having the system this is hard to debug | 18:30 |
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| WebMaven | I have done ps wwxuf to check. The command lines are the same. | 18:31 |
| srichter | mmh, wow | 18:31 |
| WebMaven | the same before and after the restart. | 18:31 |
| srichter | maybe your automatic startup sets up environment variables it should not, liek PYTHONPATH? | 18:32 |
| WebMaven | About the only thing I can still think of, is that the daemon somehow does not have access to the real user env when it spawns a new process. | 18:32 |
| WebMaven | srichter: I'm not sure I understand... | 18:33 |
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| WebMaven | Do you mean the startup, or the auto-restart? | 18:34 |
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| WebMaven | srichter: I am perfectly willing to let you into my account for you to poke around. | 18:36 |
| srichter | WebMaven: no thanks, I am busy myself ;-) | 18:36 |
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| homeo | hi | 18:42 |
| WebMaven | srichter: AYT? | 18:47 |
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| WebMaven | srichter: OK, false alarm. It looks like the PYTHONPATH problem *is* solved, but that it was previously masking a MYSQL problem. | 19:10 |
| WebMaven | srichter: which is that new vewrsions do not recconect by default. | 19:10 |
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| WebMaven | Ah, and here is the zope3-dev thread: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-dev/2005-December/thread.html#17052 | 19:29 |
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| febb | Hello all | 19:36 |
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