IRC log of #zope3-dev for Thursday, 2006-10-12

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MrTopfHi16:40
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whitis there any way to browse the zope repository right now?20:37
runyaga_i believe there is a dns problem20:38
runyaga_if you put a hosts file in - you should be squared away20:39
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runyaga_hello!21:04
runyaga_got a question for zodb goers... is there a equivilenet to 'tranalyzer' in ZODBTools?21:05
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roymIs it possible to mix xmlconfig.string(...) calls with21:56
roymprovideAdapter() and provideUtility() calls. I find that the21:56
roymxmlconfig.string() needs a context as the 2nd arg - not sure what I21:56
roymwould pass in!21:56
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philiKONroym, a ZCML context22:00
philiKONConfigurationContext to be exact22:00
philiKONI discourage xmlconfig.* methods22:00
philiKONthey're not really a public API22:00
philiKONtheir only use case probably is tests for custom ZCML directives22:01
philiKONI suggest using provide*22:01
roymphiliKON: since so much of the actual configuration is in zcml, it just seems "right" to be able to use that in the test setup as well. Or am I missing the point?22:02
philiKONare you trying to test your configuration?22:02
philiKONthen you better write an integration test22:02
philiKONand load the whole shebang22:03
roymI'm trying to use pieces of the configuration, not necessarily the whole thing... I have it broken into small files and am using includes.22:03
philiKONdo as you please22:04
philiKONbtw, then i suggest using xmlconfig.file22:04
philiKON(i think)22:04
philiKONanyways, IMO zcml is overkill for unit tests22:04
philiKONmakes 'em slow and adds another layer of indirection22:04
roymagreed... howeverl, let me ask if there is a way to pass in existing registrations (made via provideAdapter) to xmlconfig.file()22:05
philiKONand if you end up actually needing lots of configuration in your unit tests, you should probably rethink the test22:05
philiKONdoesn't sound like a unit test anymore22:05
roymie: is there a way to adapt the getGlobalSiteManager or some subset of it to a ConfigurationContext?22:07
philiKONhuh, no22:08
philiKONyou just create one of those configuration contexts22:08
philiKONjust read the docs/tests in zope.configuration22:08
philiKONor some very bad examples in five tests22:08
roym:)22:08
roymthanks.22:08
philiKONi still advise against it :)22:08
benjiroym: I've done something similar:22:09
benjidef zcml(s): context = xmlconfig.file('meta.zcml', package=zc.snippetlibrary) xmlconfig.file('meta.zcml', package=zope.app.component, context=context) xmlconfig.string(s, context)22:09
philiKONyup, that's it22:10
roymbenji: I see that's a way of chaining contexts.. I was wondering if there was a way to pass in existing registrations (make with placelesssetup.setUp and the like) to a call to xmlconfig.file().22:11
philiKONno22:11
philiKONzcml generates actions22:12
philiKONprovide* doesn't22:12
roymthankyou - that helps me understand it.22:12
benjiroym: you can dig the context up, if that's what you mean...22:15
benji    from zope.app.appsetup.appsetup import __config_context as context22:16
benji    try:22:16
benji        xmlconfig.string(s, context, execute=execute)22:16
benji    except:22:16
benji        context.end()22:16
benji        raise22:16
roymbenji: very nice...22:17
benjior very evil :)22:17
roym:)22:17
roymnow, if only there was a way to convert a context to an xml file (*wishful thinking*)22:20
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runyaga_roym, xmlpickle ;)22:45
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roymrunyaga_: I guess xmlpickle + some xsl could theoretically recreate an xml config file.22:48
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runyaga_roym, J1m would love to hear your experience with xmlpickle if you go down that route!23:20
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