IRC log of #zope3-dev for Monday, 2007-02-19

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* baijum want to install Zope 3 like this: easy_install zope312:21
baijumAny idea what this ZCML file does: src/zope/app/apidoc/bookmodule/book.zcml12:23
afd_baijum: there's a "Zope Book" in the ++apidoc++ screen12:25
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baijumCan I replace <configure package="zope.app.ftests"> with <configure package="zope.app.zcmlfiles.ftests"> , If I move 'ftests' to 'zope.app.zcmlfiles'12:25
baijumafd_, thanks! I will look into how "Zope Book" works12:27
* baijum waiting for a reply to : http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-dev/2007-February/021767.html12:28
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koboldis it possible to call a view on an object from ZPT?12:36
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Jell-O-Fishihi. not sure if it's a bug or not : when trying to use the custom_widget field on a form_fields['key'] and the form field is a collection that uses a vocabulary, the widget simply fails to init because it wasn't passed the vocabulary (passed 3 values instead of 4)13:33
Jell-O-Fishishould i just make the widget more intelligent and figure out the vocabulary on it's own ?13:36
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afd_kobold: sure, it's common practice to do something like: tal:define="url obj/@@absolute_url"13:49
koboldafd_: yes thanks, it was a stupid question after all. :)13:50
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koboldhello, I'd like to update the italian version of zope3's zope.po... what is the usual workflow for translations?17:00
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philiKON_kobold: use launchpad17:35
philiKON_kobold: https://launchpad.net17:35
koboldphiliKON_: thanks, I didn't know that you use launchpad.17:35
philiKON_basically, you get the translations from there, update them, and load them back up17:35
koboldmy main problem, which is common to other languages too, is that translators translated for example "vocabulary-missing-single-value-for-edit" literally17:36
koboldinstead of translating the default value.17:36
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philiKON_wow17:37
philiKON_that's stupid17:37
philiKON_:)17:37
philiKON_somebody apparently didn't understand the value of explicit message ids...17:37
koboldreally stupid, especially because the resulting page is rendered with those strings.17:38
mgedminignorance != stupidity17:39
koboldand the problem is common, for example, to italian, french and hungarian (the languages I know).17:39
mgedminbut it is rather funny17:39
koboldis it possible that nobody never noticed it?17:39
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kobolduhm, the german translation is funny too.17:42
koboldmsgid "vocabulary-missing-single-value-for-edit"17:43
koboldmsgstr "Wert aus Vokabular mit einem Wert fehlt"17:43
kobold#. Default: "(no value)"17:43
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koboldgreat.17:43
philiKONheh17:43
SteveAthere's some improvements to rosetta coming soon17:43
SteveAto present the english string for these cases17:43
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philiKONcool17:44
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mgedminwhy oh why does formlib have to have a zillion slightly different setUp*Widgets functions? :(18:02
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Jell-O-Fishihi. not sure if it's a bug or not : when trying to use the custom_widget field on a form_fields['key'] and the form field is a collection that uses a vocabulary, the widget simply fails to init because it wasn't passed the vocabulary (passed 3 values instead of 4)18:11
Jell-O-Fishii've already solved this by making a generic widget and completely replacing it. but still.18:12
mgedminthat's the way life is18:17
ignasIIterableSources for widgets should be defined in the interfaces.py or would some other place be more appropriate?18:22
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ignasok, i found a way to go around it - using IVocabularyFactory seems to help as they can be queried by name and do not require source code level dependency between the declaration of the Source and the usage of this source in an interface file18:46
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mgedminwhat would be a good way to detect hidden tests automatically?  (i.e. if I happen to have two doctest_Foo functions in one module, the first one is never used)19:43
mgedminpychecker tends to choke on zope 3 code, iirc19:44
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timtemgedmin: was it you that told me about a python profiler?19:58
timtemgedmin: that profiler could tell how many times each method was run19:58
mgedminassuming it works19:59
mgedminit usually doesn't when I try it on zope 3 tests19:59
mgedminI get an assertion error in the pstats module19:59
mgedminPython profiling tools suck19:59
timtedarn19:59
mgedminsupposedly the situation is better on python 2.519:59
mgedminbut Zope 3 does not work with python 2.520:00
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timteI saw jim commiting a fix for 2.520:00
timtebut I guess one of a hundred future fixes20:01
timtehow come profiling is better for 2.5?20:03
mgedminthere's a new cProfile module20:03
timtebuiltin in 2.5?20:04
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koboldhello, does the zope3's i18n module support ngettext (aka plural forms)?20:10
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norroHi guys. Is there a plan for Zope 3.3 to find its way to the ubuntu repository (edgy for example)?22:18
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philiKONnorro: not really our thing to decide...22:32
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