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| CrippsFX | k. hm my coworker is saying something about overrides ... what do those have to do with anything? | 00:00 |
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| CrippsFX | (milking you for all the info I can get :P ) | 00:00 |
| pbugni | heh - that's .zcml stuff. GIYF - very powerful and tends to be confusing for us noob's. | 00:01 |
| CrippsFX | hahaha :) | 00:02 |
| pbugni | if you downloaded this project, you should find a .zcml file within | 00:03 |
| pbugni | won't hurt to read it over | 00:03 |
| J1m_ | Theuni, I'm 97% sure it will be done before Monday night your time. | 00:03 |
| CrippsFX | kk. thanks. | 00:04 |
| CrippsFX | alright. Imma head out for now and do more reading in the morning. Thanks for the help guys. | 00:05 |
| Theuni | J1m_: Ok. Unfortunately I think I can't make it to the beta until Sunday as well, so I can as well wait until monday. | 00:06 |
| J1m_ | k | 00:07 |
| J1m_ | There's about a 50% prob I'll get it done befroe Satuday night (your time). | 00:07 |
| Theuni | Ok, I'll keep my eyes open. And I'll remind you of subversion. ;) | 00:08 |
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| J1m_ | oh yeah. Thanks. :) | 00:10 |
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| timte | Are interfaces persisted along with the rest of the object? | 10:46 |
| timte | By reading the mail archive it looks like they are. | 10:48 |
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| timte | If I change the interface an object provides, do I have to write migration code that changes interfaces on the persisted objects or is that somehow handled automatically? | 10:53 |
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| *** baijum changes topic to "Zope 3.4.0a1 is out: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope3/3.4.0a1 | Zope 3.4 bugs: http://tinyurl.com/yvyeo5 | bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope3/ | FAQ: http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/FAQ | wiki: http://wiki.zope.org/zope3 | paste: http://paste.lisp.org/new/zope3-dev | irc logs: http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs/" | 12:56 | |
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| baijum | wiki.zope.org is back now | 12:57 |
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| baijum | Theuni, ayt? | 14:07 |
| baijum | It looks zope.cachedescriptors "3.4.0b1-r75668" already released, it should be "3.4.0b1dev-r75668" instead ... | 14:08 |
| baijum | >>> parse_version('3.4.0b1-r75668') < parse_version('3.4.0b1') | 14:09 |
| baijum | False | 14:09 |
| baijum | I am going to replace those post beta 1 releases, is it ok? | 14:09 |
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| * baijum uploaded zope.cachedescriptors-3.4.0b1dev-r75668.tar.gz and removed post beta 1 releases | 14:19 | |
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| baijum | hi nikhil_n | 14:20 |
| nikhil_n | hi,i was working on ZODB | 14:21 |
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| baijum | ok, if you want I can commit your changes to svn | 14:21 |
| baijum | you can send svn diff to me | 14:22 |
| baijum | use mbaiju AT zeomega.com | 14:22 |
| nikhil_n | I have some doubts about it | 14:22 |
| nikhil_n | i corrected the error in zope.exceptions | 14:22 |
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| nikhil_n | and then when i changed a file in persistence its error got corrected | 14:23 |
| nikhil_n | testPersistence.py | 14:23 |
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| Theuni | baijum: kind of ... | 14:32 |
| Theuni | nikhil_n: do you have checkin rights? | 14:32 |
| Theuni | baijum: checking in changes for other people is kind of not a good way :/ | 14:33 |
| nikhil_n | ya, i have | 14:33 |
| baijum | Theuni, he has access but locked in Windows .. | 14:34 |
| nikhil_n | but the problem is that now there is some problem with using svn in windows | 14:34 |
| nikhil_n | my modem wont support linux | 14:34 |
| Theuni | you could ask on the -dev list | 14:34 |
| Theuni | there are people, like chris withers, who work on windows | 14:35 |
| Theuni | they might help you to get going | 14:35 |
| Theuni | probably the easiest thing would be svn+ssh via cygwin, but I'm not a good windows user then ... | 14:35 |
| nikhil_n | ok, once i tried in irc , but here most work in linux | 14:35 |
| baijum | Theuni, btw, I replaced zope.cachedescriptors post beta 1 releases .. | 14:36 |
| baijum | in download.zope.org | 14:37 |
| Theuni | yah, that's kind of wrong :/ | 14:38 |
| Theuni | setuptools said those kinds of packaging errors can only be solved by releasing newer versions | 14:38 |
| Theuni | now it's unclear what people who already have this other version get | 14:38 |
| Theuni | because they will never get the "older" fixed packages | 14:38 |
| Theuni | just removing them from the download servers isn't enough :/ | 14:38 |
| baijum | how do we correct this issue then ? | 14:39 |
| baijum | our beta 1 will be less that current release | 14:39 |
| baijum | should I restore those release, it's still in my home dir | 14:40 |
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| baijum | ok, I just restored those releases now | 14:43 |
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| xbeanx | How do I make a Choice() schema field render as a radio widget? | 15:04 |
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| xbeanx | lol, nm, I found it.. | 15:26 |
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| Theuni | baijum: the new releases will simply be higher | 15:30 |
| Theuni | meaning we have to go for b2 now. | 15:30 |
| Theuni | actually | 15:30 |
| baijum | Theuni, ok | 15:30 |
| Theuni | we just have to go for a higher post-release number | 15:30 |
| Theuni | meaning b1-rXXX with XXX being higher than bevore | 15:31 |
| Theuni | before | 15:31 |
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| CrippsFX | hm ... if context/attribute is the same as context.attribute in python can I use basePackage/package/module/attribute in a template? | 15:41 |
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| rocky | can someone explain the different of (both in zope.app.mail.interfaces) IMailer and IMailDelivery ? | 15:48 |
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| philiKON | rocky: RTFB :) | 15:54 |
| philiKON | chapter about Events | 15:54 |
| philiKON | :) | 15:54 |
| rocky | haha | 15:54 |
| imgrey | how to plug zc.queue into zope 2 ? | 15:54 |
| rocky | philiKON: egg on my face ;) | 15:54 |
| rocky | philiKON: i read your book, i swear! :) | 15:54 |
| philiKON | i know you did :) | 15:54 |
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| CrippsFX | philiKON: I haven't read it yet ... but it's in the mail ... | 15:56 |
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| rocky | ah so IMailDelivery is the api for user code to use whereas IMailer is the engine that IMailDelivery will use when it feels sol inclined to actually send the mails | 15:59 |
| CrippsFX | here's just a question so I know if I'm understanding or not: for <div tal:repeat="contact context/values">, the "contact context/values" is 'creating a variable' called contact that holds context.values so that later I can access context.values.attribute , correct? | 15:59 |
| mgedmin | no | 15:59 |
| mgedmin | it's a for loop over all the items of context/values | 16:00 |
| CrippsFX | mgedmin: like in python: for i in thing: i.attribute ... assuming thing is a container of some sort, right? | 16:00 |
| mgedmin | yes | 16:01 |
| CrippsFX | kk. that's what I was asking, I guess I just phrased it poorly the first time :) | 16:01 |
| mgedmin | so contact holds context.values[0], context.values[1] etc | 16:01 |
| mgedmin | only in a more general way (context.value doesn't have to be a list, it could be something else that can be iterated) | 16:02 |
| CrippsFX | mmhmmm. Thanks mgedmin :) | 16:02 |
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| * mgedmin wants to know how to extract the values of local Python variables with gdb from a running zope 3, and without any Python debug symbols of course | 16:08 | |
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| * CrippsFX has no clue | 16:12 | |
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| baijum | hmm..it looks like zope.org mail server not working ... | 16:21 |
| baijum | Can any one check it ? I am not geting checkin mails | 16:23 |
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| baijum | "buildout -n" slows as egg repository becoming large ? | 16:34 |
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| CrippsFX | argh! I'm having a hell of a time trying to figure out *exactly* what to do to get the items in my container to render by using their own template, can someone refer me to a document about the Zope3 way of doing this? | 19:12 |
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| CrippsFX | hm ... zope3 wiki is back up .. Imma read chapter 14 of the Developer's handbook | 19:24 |
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| sm | phew.. at last | 19:42 |
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| CrippsFX | sm: yeah, I know .. I've been lost for the past 2 days without it! :) | 19:48 |
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| xbeanx | Hrm, how would I do this: class IXContainer: contains(IX) ..... class IX: containers(IXContainer) | 21:28 |
| xbeanx | I mean, one class depends on the declaration of the one beneath it, but I can't move the one beneath above because that depends on the one above | 21:28 |
| mgedmin | you can say class IXContainer: contains('package.subpackage.module.IX') | 21:29 |
| xbeanx | :) thanks mgedmin | 21:30 |
| mgedmin | relative module paths withs contains('.IX') might also work, I'm not sure, check the docs | 21:33 |
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| xbeanx | hrm, oddly enough it doesn't seem to work | 21:33 |
| xbeanx | exact same problem with the full dotted path as without | 21:35 |
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| mgedmin | maybe that needs a recent zope 3 to work | 21:44 |
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| xbeanx | I have 3.3.1 and svn.. seems to be a python problem to me :( | 21:51 |
| xbeanx | oh well, google time it is | 21:51 |
| pbugni | xbeanx: which python version? | 21:52 |
| * pbugni thinks he may have missed some vital background - nm if so | 21:52 | |
| xbeanx | meh, I have to leave soon, so I may just pop a quick message to the mailing list and hope for an answer | 21:55 |
| pbugni | xbeanx: just making sure you aren't trying to get zope to run on python 2.5 | 22:00 |
| mgedmin | nah, that would bomb out very early | 22:00 |
| xbeanx | no, it's standard zope 3.3.1 python 2.4.4 | 22:02 |
| xbeanx | the problem is one class needs to use another class in same module.... each one depends on the other...since they're in the same module there's a circular dependency problem | 22:03 |
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| drzoltron | Hi, is there a newer approach for database generations than http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/DatabaseGenerations ? | 22:05 |
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| drzoltron | Or: how do I keep the ZODB as my application evolves | 22:06 |
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| CrippsFX | my zope3 instance just lost it's skin/css/everything that made it look pretty ... I don't know what caused it to do that, I was working on a page template for a container view on one of my projects, and when I refreshed the page it was straight up html with no decoration. Does anybody know what went wrong, or how I would go about fixing it? | 22:11 |
| mgedmin | I'm not aware of any newer approaches | 22:12 |
| mgedmin | and the answer to your second question is: carefully and sometimes painfully | 22:12 |
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| CrippsFX | hm ... it's back after a restart. Must have been a stale lock or something of that nature. | 22:17 |
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