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| CSWookie | Is there a way to get second-best adaptation for some arguments? | 00:10 |
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| benji | CSWookie: why do you want to do that? If it's because you want to do something like an adapter "super", then I can tell you how to do it (if I can find the last place I wrote that code) | 00:42 |
| CSWookie | benji: Pretty much. | 00:42 |
| benji | let me see if I can find it | 00:42 |
| CSWookie | benji: I want to write a traverser for our test stuff that is a generator. | 00:42 |
| CSWookie | benji: So that I can start a test by saying, I will open this in the browser. | 00:43 |
| CSWookie | And then step by step show the thing traversing through the parts of my code, and what it does. | 00:43 |
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| benji | CSWookie: found what I was looking for, but don't think it'll help in your situation because it doesn't get the "second-best" adapter, but gets the most general adapter for a particular interface | 01:08 |
| CSWookie | Hah. Durn. | 01:09 |
| CSWookie | Well, I'd still like to see that code. Maybe it could be tweaked to get the second best. | 01:09 |
| benji | not really, here's what it's doing: say you have an adapter that can copy objects of a particular interface (say IA) and another that wants to be registered to copy IB but defer some or all of its implementation to the copier of IA | 01:12 |
| benji | in the __init__ of the IB copier, you could get the copier for an arbitrary object and pull out it's class to get the arbitrary adapter (this assumes the adapter is a class and not a different callable) | 01:13 |
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| benji | the code would be this: self.generic_adapter = IObjectCopier(object()).__class__ | 01:14 |
| benji | after writing that code I convinced Jim that we needed a facility to get the actual "super" adapter, I don't think he's implemented it though | 01:15 |
| CSWookie | I'm not sure I'm following why that works. | 01:17 |
| CSWookie | I don't know what an IB copier is either, so maybe that's why. | 01:18 |
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| CSWookie | We are both defining the "super" adapter to be the adapter that would have taken place, had this adapter not been registered, correct? | 01:19 |
| benji | it'll work for any adapter, this one is just for adapters for copying objects | 01:19 |
| CSWookie | OK. | 01:19 |
| benji | yep | 01:19 |
| benji | my version is a hack though, it assumes two things: that the adapter is an instance and that the interface hierarchy is only two levels (that there is nothing between IA and IB) | 01:20 |
| CSWookie | Ah. | 01:20 |
| CSWookie | That's what I wasn't getting. | 01:20 |
| CSWookie | Hmm. | 01:20 |
| benji | if you're /really/ interested in this you could take a shot at adding the feature | 01:21 |
| CSWookie | Well, I would definitely like to have that. | 01:23 |
| CSWookie | I'd also like to have 2.5 support. | 01:24 |
| CSWookie | But both of those things look like things that are over my head to do right now. | 01:24 |
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| CrippsFX | morning folks | 16:15 |
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| CrippsFX | hey philiKON ... in the WC book, chapter 10, there's a section where we write the wc macros file, and then later refactor it for viewlets, but when I try to load it now it complains to me about self.template.macros[key] not being a subscriptable object ... is there something I missed that I have to change to get the new macros template working? | 17:58 |
| philiKON | the ZPT is likely not well-formed | 18:00 |
| CrippsFX | okay. I'll take another look at it, and compare it to yours then. | 18:00 |
| philiKON | or just copy the friggen template :) | 18:00 |
| CrippsFX | philiKON: *could* do, except I'm going by example and modelling a custom site after yours. | 18:02 |
| philiKON | ok | 18:03 |
| philiKON | well, run the template thru xmlint | 18:03 |
| CrippsFX | kk. | 18:03 |
| CrippsFX | philiKON: wow, cool. I didn't even know about that tool, but it did find some errors. Guess I should clean those up a bit :) | 18:04 |
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| CrippsFX | hey benji | 18:10 |
| benji | hi | 18:10 |
| CrippsFX | how's it going? Enjoying your Memorial day weekend? | 18:11 |
| benji | yep | 18:11 |
| CrippsFX | philiKON: is it unusual for xmllint to not like the tal and metal namespaces? | 18:12 |
| CrippsFX | benji: have a beer for me, will ya? ;) | 18:12 |
| benji | How 'bout a sweet tea? <wink> | 18:13 |
| CrippsFX | hahaha. I'll settle for one of thyose if there's no beer on hand ;) | 18:13 |
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| philiKON | CrippsFX: you need to declare the namesapces | 18:24 |
| philiKON | using xmlns:tal="..." | 18:25 |
| philiKON | i usually do that anyway | 18:25 |
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| philiKON | the book shows it too | 18:25 |
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| philiKON | imo the cost of having to type these is far smaller than the gain you can get from standard xml tools like xmlint or nxml-mode | 18:25 |
| CrippsFX | philiKON: yeah, they are defined as in (following your example): <metal:block xmlns="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/metal" ... />" | 18:26 |
| philiKON | nope | 18:26 |
| philiKON | xmlns:metal="..." | 18:27 |
| CrippsFX | oops, yeah, that's what I have :P | 18:27 |
| CrippsFX | oops, no, that's not what I have. | 18:27 |
| CrippsFX | :P | 18:27 |
| * CrippsFX is a moron sometimes. | 18:27 | |
| CrippsFX | philiKON: score ... I fixed that, and realized that I had four other opening tags that were in the format of <directive ... /> and then closed again later. | 18:31 |
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| CrippsFX | so, I've fixed that, and now I just have to fix my *other* problems :) | 18:32 |
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| CrippsFX | I win. | 19:06 |
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| CrippsFX | philiKON_: out of curiousity, is there any reason why you decided to register viewlet css resources with the browser:viewlet directive instead of the browser:resource directive? Wouldn't they do the same thing, more or less? | 20:17 |
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| xbeanx | CrippsFX: viewlets are not necessarily resources | 22:25 |
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| xbeanx | resources and viewlets are essentially different | 22:25 |
| CrippsFX | xbeanx: yes, I'm aware, but when a resource for a viewlet is used, it's registered via the "viewlet" directive ... why not just use the "resource" directive and call the resource *from* the viewlet? | 22:26 |
| xbeanx | it makes interchanging the viewlet for another one more difficult | 22:27 |
| CrippsFX | hos so? | 22:27 |
| CrippsFX | *how | 22:27 |
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| ignas | you might want to use the viewlet in some other application | 22:29 |
| ignas | so having a viewlet that only depends on the viewlet manager or interfaces is better | 22:29 |
| CrippsFX | ignas: yes, but the viewlet will call the same resource regardless if it's registered under "viewlet" or registered under "resource" | 22:30 |
| ignas | than having a viewlet that has "you must register resource 'foo' if you want to use this viewlet" | 22:30 |
| CrippsFX | either way, the resource has to be registered. | 22:30 |
| ignas | CrippsFX: yes, but different sites have different resources | 22:30 |
| ignas | now if you want to use the same viewlet in more than 1 site | 22:30 |
| ignas | you will have to register the resource for all the sites, or you can just register it with the viewlet and it will just work | 22:31 |
| CrippsFX | ignas: right ... you'd have to change the viewlet code instead of just configuration code. | 22:31 |
| ignas | ? | 22:31 |
| CrippsFX | ignas: if the viewlet resource were registered under "resource" and you wanted to use a different resource on a different site, using the same viewlet, you would have to tweak the viewlet code instead of just registering a new resource under the "viewlet" directive, right? | 22:33 |
| ignas | maybe, though i was talking about the same resource even | 22:34 |
| ignas | different sites have different sets of resources iirc | 22:34 |
| ignas | so if you have foo.jpg registered in site 1 | 22:35 |
| ignas | it is not available in site 2 | 22:35 |
| xbeanx | or may not be the same foo.jpg | 22:35 |
| ignas | so if you want your viewlet in site 2 - you would have to register foo.jpg for site 2 as well (unless you are using the viewlet specific resource) | 22:35 |
| CrippsFX | ignas: yeah ... but names are always changeable (slash, inter-changable) because of the whole configuration thing. | 22:35 |
| CrippsFX | anyways ... my brain is toast. It's home time. Then nap time. | 22:36 |
| CrippsFX | I'll be back in 15 hours. Cheers :P | 22:36 |
| xbeanx | me too | 22:36 |
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