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| tjs | G'day | 00:14 |
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| tjs | we're migrating our app from zope3.1 -> zopeproject (3.4) | 00:14 |
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| tjs | sorry, stupid recruiting agencys phoning *mutter*, btw if you're in AU and looking for zope3 work let me know, we're looking for a new senior developer | 00:19 |
| tjs | so one of the guys here who is fixing up our ftests with the migration is running into an issue with the authenticated principle not having view permission by default (which he thinks it did have in 3.1) | 00:21 |
| tjs | were there any changes to the default privs assigned to the authenticated principle? | 00:21 |
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| redir | Where should I ask a buildout question? | 05:31 |
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| timte | zope.org and svn.zope.org down or is it just here? | 11:51 |
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| huajie_ | just there | 12:00 |
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| timte | I can't explore the dom with zope.testbrowser, can I? | 12:33 |
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| timte | zc.testbrowser I mean | 12:33 |
| mgedmin | you can, but I think you have to parse it yourself from the html | 12:35 |
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| timte | browser.getLink('something', index=1000) works | 12:47 |
| timte | how do I know how many links there actually are? I'd like to iterate over the links, but I don't see how it's possible | 12:47 |
| romanofski | timte: use the etestbrowser | 12:49 |
| romanofski | and fetch the links with an xpath expression | 12:49 |
| romanofski | something like: browser.etree.xpath(<expression>) | 12:51 |
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| timte | is it a part of zc.testbrowser? | 12:56 |
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| timte | ah z3c.etestbrowser | 12:57 |
| timte | but I was looking forward to use the 'real' testbrowser | 12:57 |
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| timte | zc.testbrowser still has the 'any' bug :/ | 13:09 |
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| thruflo | hey | 13:18 |
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| ignas | srichter: are you there? | 14:41 |
| ignas | how do i upload packages to http://download.zope.org/distribution/ ? | 14:48 |
| baijum | ignas: scp file.tar.gz username@download.zope.org:/distribution/ | 14:57 |
| ignas | would anyone mind if i would fix up some dependencies in packages? | 14:57 |
| ignas | some packages have http://download.zope.org/distribution in their dependency links even though they only depend on packagesavailable in PyPI | 14:57 |
| ignas | (which pollutes my dependency_links when using buildout) | 14:58 |
| baijum | ignas, is easy_install or buildout not searching in PyPI also if there is no proper dependency available in download.zope.org ? | 15:00 |
| ignas | well - problem is | 15:01 |
| ignas | it is searching download.zope.org | 15:01 |
| ignas | even though i want it to use my custom index | 15:01 |
| ignas | and if there is a newer package in dowload.zope.org | 15:01 |
| ignas | it gets used instead of the package in the index | 15:01 |
| baijum | ah. ok | 15:02 |
| baijum | I think you can remove those 'find-links' from zope.* packages, may be you should ask in zope-dev list ... | 15:02 |
| ignas | the packages i am talking about are zc.datetimewidget and z3c.optionstorage ... | 15:03 |
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| *** baijum changes topic to "(today) ZF Annual meeting in #zope-foundation, 2007-10-31 @ 14:00 GMT | Zope 3.4.0b1 is out: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope3/3.4.0b1 | Paste: http://paste.lisp.org/new/zope3-dev | Zope 3.4 bugs: http://tinyurl.com/yvyeo5 | bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope3/ | FAQ: http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/FAQ | wiki: http://wiki.zope.org/zope3 | irc logs: http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs/ | Like gardening ? join us here: http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/WikiGarden" | 15:11 | |
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| timte | I want to do a for-loop in zc.testbrowser to iterate a few pages and do stuff. But browser.open() returns immediately and calls to browser.getForm() results in LookupError. How can I wait until the page is loaded? | 15:28 |
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| pan | hello :-) | 15:37 |
| amaron | hello | 15:41 |
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| * srichter notes that the Zope Foundation meeting is starting now | 16:01 | |
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| srichter | interested parties are invited to listen this year, so anyone can join in | 16:03 |
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| timte | srichter: where? | 16:23 |
| srichter | timte: #zope-foundation | 16:23 |
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| timte | benji: you have a minute for zc.testbrowser advise? | 17:24 |
| benji | timte: ask first, and then I'll tell you ;) | 17:24 |
| timte | benji: first, I copied over that any function to real so the tests pass | 17:25 |
| benji | k | 17:25 |
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| timte | benji: second, if I use browser.open(...) it may take a while until the page is rendered, how do I wait for the page is loaded until I do browser.getForm(...)? If I do it directly getForm will result in LookupError. | 17:26 |
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| benji | timte: open should wait for the page to load (it tries to at least), so it sounds like a bug | 17:27 |
| timte | oh | 17:27 |
| benji | sounds like it might be related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/153198 | 17:28 |
| timte | so I shouldn't get back the prompt until the page is fully loaded? | 17:28 |
| timte | yeah, seems to be the same | 17:29 |
| timte | with that link you destroyed my currently running test browser session :) | 17:30 |
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| mgedmin | TraversalErrors are nasty | 18:19 |
| mgedmin | they hide the underlying real error | 18:19 |
| philiKON | the whole path expression stuff is just nasty | 18:21 |
| * philiKON has his own version of pagetemplatefile that a) has no global variables (the view has to push everything in) and b) uses python expressions by default | 18:21 | |
| * mgedmin has two or three own versions of page template classes | 18:27 | |
| * ignas likes tales expressions better than direct python stuff, as it allows you to switch between objects/dicts without changing presentation logic | 18:31 | |
| faassen | philiKON: you should plug that into grok as .ppt, Philikon Page Templates :) | 18:31 |
| philiKON | faassen: good idea :) | 18:31 |
| faassen | ignas: in Genshi, it does that automatically for you, while retaining python expressions. | 18:31 |
| philiKON | faassen: first i'll release it as a z3c. pkg | 18:31 |
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| philiKON | faassen: been wanting to do that for a while | 18:31 |
| philiKON | yeah, genshi si a bit magical sometimes :) | 18:32 |
| philiKON | like how it will automatically do ''.join(list) if you say ${list} | 18:32 |
| faassen | oh, I didn't realize it did that. how magical! | 18:32 |
| philiKON | there are other things... but all in all itt's quite nice | 18:32 |
| philiKON | ignas: how often do you do switch, though? i consider getattr and getitem two fundamentally different protocols | 18:33 |
| philiKON | it's not like they're right next to each other in choice | 18:33 |
| philiKON | and to be honest, i find it more improtant to be able to say foo[0] | 18:33 |
| ignas | philiKON: quite often actually, mostly i use objects, but sometimes when I want to add more information to the object i convert it to dict | 18:34 |
| ignas | so a method sections() instead of returning sections themselves | 18:34 |
| ignas | starts returning small dicts | 18:34 |
| ignas | that have 1-2 additional "members" | 18:34 |
| mgedmin | I consider foo[0] a hack, I want something like tal:repeat="x, y, z in list_of_tuples" | 18:35 |
| philiKON | right | 18:35 |
| ignas | i work around it with {'x': value,'y': value, 'z': value} | 18:35 |
| philiKON | well, foo[0] isn't a hack if you really want the first thing of, say, a list | 18:35 |
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| ignas | yeah, the tal repeat odd/even/first/last is tricky to use ... | 18:36 |
| philiKON | like foo[-1] which happen stoo | 18:36 |
| philiKON | ignas: i didn't mean that | 18:36 |
| philiKON | ignas: what i meant was: getting the first element of a sequence | 18:36 |
| philiKON | that's what foo[0] does :) | 18:36 |
| ignas | philiKON: i see, i was talking about the x, y, z usecase | 18:36 |
| philiKON | yeah | 18:37 |
| ignas | as for foo[0], i guess when you don't have it you don't write templates in ways that need it | 18:37 |
| philiKON | iirc, genshi supports py:for="key, value in items" | 18:37 |
| ignas | at least i can't recall wanting to have that in a template | 18:37 |
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| faassen | mgedmin: Genshi has a py:for that is what you say :) | 18:45 |
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| richardkan | hi | 19:17 |
| richardkan | Does anybody have experience using TextIndexNG? | 19:17 |
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| richardkan | I'm having problems searching multi-lingual content with TextIndexNG3 | 19:18 |
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| _tarek_ | Hi J1m, do we have something in zc.buildout to play with the system environment ? | 19:25 |
| _tarek_ | my use case is: | 19:25 |
| _tarek_ | i'd like to be able to add in my .cfg files stuff like #ifdef win32 | 19:26 |
| _tarek_ | example: | 19:26 |
| _tarek_ | eggs = | 19:26 |
| _tarek_ | #ifdef win32 | 19:26 |
| _tarek_ | pywin32 | 19:26 |
| _tarek_ | #endif | 19:26 |
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| thruflo | hi, I've got a view class, SearchViewlet, that subclasses ViewletBase and another view class from elsewhere in my app - SearchForm | 19:49 |
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| thruflo | all works fine, but when I use methods in my template like view/getCountries that are methods of the SearchForm class, I find my users need to have the permission that that class was configured with to use my new page | 19:50 |
| thruflo | if that makes sense | 19:50 |
| thruflo | which surprised me! | 19:51 |
| thruflo | the code is here: http://pesto.largeblue.net/trac/browser/pesto/view/sidf/api.py | 19:51 |
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| hazmat | i notice there is a one liner issue preventing usage of zope3 without an open zodb.. the zope.app.appsetup schema.xml has a required flag on the database, any opinions on removing this flag? | 20:11 |
| hazmat | probably should be on list | 20:12 |
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| mgedmin | I wonder if you can probably get that by fiddling the dependency list in your setup.py | 20:29 |
| mgedmin | uh, /me is talking to his xchat backlog | 20:30 |
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| pan | hello J1m :-) | 23:15 |
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| ignas | J1m, hi | 23:21 |
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| ignas | J1m, have you ever compiled zope.ucol egg on windows? | 23:21 |
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| J1m | ignas, I haven't compiled the egg, but I'm 98% sure that I've installed from the setup file. | 23:41 |
| J1m | We used in in a project a couple of years ago. | 23:41 |
| J1m | BTW, I hear that pyicu has improved a lot. | 23:42 |
| ignas | J1m, could you build a binary egg if you have the setup ? | 23:42 |
| J1m | I probably could. | 23:42 |
| J1m | Are you asking whether it is possible? Or are you asking me to do it? :) | 23:42 |
| ignas | i am asking you to do it | 23:42 |
| ignas | if that is not too difficult | 23:42 |
| ignas | i have tried creating a mingw based setup, but i still haven't managed to install the egg | 23:43 |
| J1m | actually, now that you mention it. | 23:43 |
| J1m | There is some complexity because you have to ICI installed. | 23:43 |
| J1m | ICU | 23:43 |
| J1m | and getting those details right is a pain and would be a significant distraction. | 23:44 |
| ignas | i see | 23:44 |
| ignas | well ok | 23:44 |
| ignas | thanks for the information | 23:44 |
| J1m | I could do it, but it would take me a bit of time tio hunt down and properly install the ICI library. | 23:44 |
| ignas | yes, i understand, i really don't want to make anyone waste time doing that | 23:45 |
| J1m | But if you have access to a windows machine (or VM) It *should* be straightforward -- if tedious. | 23:45 |
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| ignas | it is not very straighforward - default ICU install builds only dll's and i need static libraries to build zope.ucol | 23:46 |
| ignas | default source code package i mean | 23:46 |
| ignas | so i'll just try finding out how to get all the libicui.a files | 23:46 |
| J1m | I think there is a windows zip file that has the include files. | 23:46 |
| J1m | why di you need a static install? | 23:46 |
| J1m | do | 23:46 |
| J1m | I haven't done that. | 23:46 |
| J1m | What I did used the dlls. | 23:47 |
| ignas | hmm | 23:47 |
| ignas | mingw ? | 23:47 |
| J1m | No, I used VC | 23:47 |
| J1m | Life is too short to make windows any more of a pain than it already is. :) | 23:47 |
| ignas | gcc -licui needs to have libicui.a (ok it's not static, it's information for linking with the dll or somrhing like that) | 23:48 |
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| J1m | All I know is that (I'm 98%) I made it work with the ICU windows download. | 23:48 |
| J1m | I may have had to set some environment variables ro some such solliness so it could find everything. | 23:49 |
| * J1m wonders if there is a windows egg for pyicu | 23:49 | |
| ignas | yeah, the zip has everything MSVC needs | 23:49 |
| ignas | jsut that i don't have msvc ;) | 23:50 |
| J1m | Hm, there are windows tar balls for pyicu. That's odd. :) | 23:51 |
| J1m | http://downloads.osafoundation.org/PyICU/windows/ | 23:51 |
| ignas | so i should use it instead of zope.ucol or with zope.ucol? | 23:52 |
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