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* baijum going to give a talk about Zope at FOSS.IN/2007 :) http://foss.in/2007/schedules/11:43
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huajiebaijum: are your slides available somewhere ?12:11
baijumhuajie, I have submitted one to FOSS.IN team..but I am making small modification now, will be published after my talk12:12
huajiebaijum: ok, good luck !12:14
baijumhuajie, thanks !12:14
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pyqwerHi, does someone know if there's an IOBTree-based container available?15:14
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philiKONpyqwer: containers always have unicode keys15:21
philiKONif you want something else, it's not an IContainer15:21
pyqwerAh, I see. The reason why I'd like to use IOBtrees is the .maxKey() function, which seems not to be available for OOBTree.15:22
philiKONright15:22
philiKONum, wait15:22
philiKONactually, i use OOBTree's maxKey method15:22
philiKONi think all btrees have this15:22
pyqwerHmmm, I'll try that out...15:22
ccombphiliKON: what should I do to have the new zope.fr.po file commited before RC?15:24
philiKONbecome a contributor :)_15:24
ccombwhat are the steps?15:24
pyqwerphiliKON: Hmmm, an "isinstance(mycontainer, BTreeContainer)" is "True", but mycontainer.maxKeys gives me an AttributeError...15:25
philiKONthe container itself isn't a btree15:25
philiKONyou'll have to get to the actual btree15:25
philiKONit's something like   _Sample_container_data or whatever15:25
baijumccomb, send contributor agreement to Jim15:25
philiKONccomb: fill out http://www.zope.org/DevHome/CVS/Contributor.pdf and fax or email a signed copy to ZC15:26
ccombOK, I will do that, but I want to be sure the po file will be commited for the RC.15:27
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pyqwerphiliKON: Ah, ok, that's the trick: "mycontainer._SampleContainer__data.maxKey". Thanks!15:28
philiKONyup15:29
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harobedare there ContainerTraverser which conduct like python route module ?15:57
harobedwhat I want is ContainerTraverser configurable with regex...15:58
harobedI know I can build it myself but I would like know if there already exist15:58
harobeds/route/routes/16:00
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ccombharobed: it seems there is a z3c.traverser but I don't know what it does. http://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=search&term=traverser16:01
harobedTraverser Plugins is may what I need16:02
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goschtlharobed: there is a package at zope.svn called megrok.trails. OK it´s for grok but maybe this gives you an impression what to do.16:09
harobedgoschtl: thanks16:09
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edgordonhas anyone got the zmi's 'server control' panel to work with paste to restart the server?16:23
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ignasedgordon: it should not work iirc16:28
ignaspoint being that you can run wsgi server under apache for example16:28
ignashow do you imagine "restarting" the Zope3 server then?16:28
ignaszope3 is a wsgi application, thus from what i know it has limmited if any control on the wsgi server16:29
edgordoni am not super familiar w/ wsgi. i just used the zopeproject setup16:30
ignaswell - under wsgi Zope is acting as an application, leaving the server part to wsgi16:30
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ignasso that you could use different servers without changing the application16:32
ccombso there is no more IServerControl utility available? (I get a lookup error when trying to access ++etc++process/servercontrol.html16:33
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edgordonyeah, that is what i was getting16:40
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ignasyou can always try writing your own IServerControl utility for the server type that you are using ;)16:43
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harobedare there zopeproject usage to get something like zope3 without zodb ?22:38
harobedI would like ZCA, traverse mechanism , view, viewlet...22:39
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replicantharobed, its possible23:02
replicantharobed, it just takes a little work, you need to replace the root publication and load up the zcml by hand instead of letting zconfig do it23:02
replicantis there anyway to tell setuptools to package a whole directory23:03
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hazmater. package_data i mean23:05
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hazmati see syntaxes for foobar/*, but that doesn't help if your nested, i've only seen the syntax of spelling out every nested directory by hand... is there a way to just point at the top level directory and and tell setuptools to add the whole thing recursively as package_data23:07
harobedIf I drop zodb, I can use zcml machinery ?23:08
harobeds/can/can't23:08
hazmatyes23:15
hazmatyou can use zcml and drop zodb23:15
hazmatyou'll still need zodb eggs23:15
hazmatbut you won't have to actually use them23:15
hazmatto store anything23:15
harobedthanks for this informations23:16
hazmatnp23:16
harobedin apidoc, how can I know what are parameters of constructor23:23
hazmataha.. just use include_package_data instead of trying to specify it manually and it loads up everything by default23:23
harobedfor instance, I've http://apidoc.zope.org/++apidoc++/Code/zope/publisher/browser/TestRequest/index.html how can I see what are parameter of the constructor ?23:24
harobedhazmat: where is include_package_data ?23:24
hazmatharobed, sorry i was just answering my own question from above.. not the apidoc question23:25
harobedhazmat: I know23:25
harobedI found it "include_package_data" at setup.py file23:26
hazmatharobed, setup.py23:26
hazmatyup23:26
harobedit is on True23:26
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ccombharobed the constructor is not available in the apidoc. I'm not sure what is a reason for that, but this could be an improvement for the apidoc23:29
harobedyes, sure23:30
hazmatpartly i think the reasoning is that the constructor is an implementation detail not nesc. part of the interface23:31
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