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| Rolando | projekt01, http://www.pcmasters.de/forum/prozessoren/6210-passive-und-aktive-kuehlung.html | 13:06 |
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| Rolando | projekt01, http://forum.chip.de/cpu-board-speicher/amd-64-box-net-boxed-unterschied-welches-mainboard-help-478808.html | 13:07 |
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| amit_am | hi, is there a way to search a zope.app.catalog for objects providing a spezified Interface? | 13:25 |
| amit_am | like one would have searched for meta_type in zope2 | 13:25 |
| srichter | you have to write a specific index to do that for you | 13:26 |
| srichter | usually I have one catalog per object type | 13:26 |
| amit_am | Ah! | 13:26 |
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| amit_am | if you have say 5 catalogs and want to query over 3 of them. wouldn't it be better to have one and a special index? | 13:29 |
| srichter | amit_am: no, querying over several catalogs is not an issue in Zope 3 | 13:29 |
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| amit_am | ok, so you make three querys and collect the objects in one list? | 13:30 |
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| amit_am | srichter: thanks, so far, I'll try that | 13:31 |
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| mgedmin | so, had anybody successfully copied a Data.fs from a 32-bit to a 64-bit machine and used it without problems? | 13:54 |
| * mgedmin just discovered that hash(a_string) gets a different value on a 64-bit machine | 13:54 | |
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| projekt01 | mgedmin, can you move from 42 to 64, is the BTree family flag not instanciated? Is it a class variable on BTreeContainer instances? | 14:02 |
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| mgedmin | what is a "BTree family flag"? | 14:14 |
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| tarek | hi, all. in my zope 3 buildout, if i put in find-links al link to a tag for my egg, it looks like it's not properly downloaded in my download-cache folder. | 14:15 |
| tarek | for example: | 14:15 |
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| tarek | find-links = http://mysvn/mypackage/tags/0.1#egg=mypackage-0.1 | 14:16 |
| tarek | this will result in the creation of a 0.1 folder in downloads/dist (if my download-cache is set to downloads) | 14:16 |
| tarek | then to an IOError when buildout is launched | 14:16 |
| tarek | what is the right way to do this ? | 14:17 |
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| regebro | Hmmm. I just encoutered an interesting usecase... | 15:20 |
| regebro | I have an adapter that I want to be used for objects that implement two specific interfaces. | 15:21 |
| regebro | I.e, I want the object to implement both IAnInterface *and* IAnotherInterface. | 15:21 |
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| regebro | I can let the adapter adapt IAnInterface, and then make sure that they adapt IAnotehrInterface as well, with | 15:22 |
| regebro | self.context=IAnotherInterface(context) in the __init__. | 15:23 |
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| mgedmin | regebro: is there something that prevents you from having a class ICombinedInterface(IAnInterface, IAnotherInterface) and having your adapter adapt ICombinedInterface? | 15:31 |
| regebro | mgedmin: Yes. :) | 15:32 |
| mgedmin | thought so :) | 15:32 |
| tarek | Hi J1m i have a question about find-links in zc.buildout | 15:36 |
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| tarek | when i use it to point an egg on a subversion, let's say: | 15:36 |
| tarek | find-links = http://mysvn/mypackage/tags/0.1#egg=mypackage-0.1 | 15:36 |
| tarek | this created in my download-cache a folder called dist/0.1 | 15:37 |
| tarek | so i get an IOError with my buildout | 15:37 |
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| tarek | is my find-link notation is wrong ? | 15:37 |
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| regebro | mgedmin: One of the interfaces is just a marker interface that needs to be toggable, that's basically why. | 15:38 |
| mgedmin | aha | 15:39 |
| mgedmin | hm | 15:39 |
| mgedmin | how about IMarkerInterface(IAnInterface) then? | 15:39 |
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| tarek | J1m, it works if i get rid of -0.1. I guess buildout should allow it since it is the standard notation IIRC | 15:55 |
| regebro | mgedmin: No, because IMarkerInterface does not and should not inherit from IAnInterface. | 15:56 |
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| regebro | My idea above seems to work fine though. | 15:56 |
| regebro | mgedmin: A bit of more flesh: The marker interface is the interface that says "This event is a recurring event". | 15:57 |
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| regebro | Which means it gets views and stuff. | 15:57 |
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| regebro | The view in turn gets an adapter, and there are different adapters for different event types. So far so good. | 15:58 |
| regebro | But the adapter I need for the ATEvent uses annotations. | 15:59 |
| regebro | So, I need that adapter to use an ATEvent that has annotations. | 15:59 |
| regebro | So it becomes a "serial" adaptation. :) The adapter is registered for ATEvent, but it in turn does IAnnotation(context) before it does anything. :) | 16:00 |
| regebro | Drawback: I can mark something as recurring even if it actually doens't support it. | 16:01 |
| regebro | ah well. | 16:02 |
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| Theuni_ | j1m: pong | 16:30 |
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| amit_am | z3c.widgets and z3c.form or inkompatible, right? | 16:36 |
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| srichter | amit_am: yes | 16:48 |
| amit_am | ok, is this intended and there should be a new start for using tinymce with z3c.form? | 16:49 |
| mgedmin | regebro: why shouldn't a IRecurringEvent marker interface inherit from the IEvent interface? | 16:50 |
| mgedmin | ok, maybe I'm misunderstanding the problem | 16:51 |
| regebro | mgedmin: Well... no. Because IRecurringevent is just a marker. Maybe I actualy should rename it IRecurringMarker. :) | 16:51 |
| mgedmin | or maybe there's no problem because you've solved it already | 16:51 |
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| regebro | And ATEvent doens't implement IEvent anyway. ;) | 16:51 |
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| mgedmin | regebro: my understanding of marker interfaces says that 'class IMarkerInterface(ISomeOtherInterface): pass' is perfectly valid for markers that should only be applied on objects that already provide ISomeOtherInterface | 16:52 |
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| benji | who benji__ | 16:52 |
| regebro | mgedmin: Well, yeah, you are right about that. | 16:53 |
| regebro | So it can inherit from IEvent. It doens't hurt anyway. | 16:53 |
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| regebro | But it doesn't help either, as the interfaces that I need the object to implement i IRecurrentEvent, IATEvent and IAnnotation. | 16:54 |
| regebro | and IRecurrentEvent can't inherit from any of the other two. | 16:54 |
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| regebro | And if fact, some to think of it, even this leaves out one of the interfaces involved. :) | 16:55 |
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| mgedmin | I doubt you want the object to implement IAnnotation | 17:05 |
| mgedmin | you want it to implement IAnnotatable | 17:05 |
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| mgedmin | hmm | 17:06 |
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| regebro | mgedmin: Yeah, that. | 17:06 |
| mgedmin | fwiw if your adapter class has a __new__ that returns None when IAnnotations(context, None) is None, then, e.g. queryAdapter will act as if there was no adapter for your context | 17:06 |
| mgedmin | I wonder if raising TypeError in __init__ has the same consequences or not | 17:07 |
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| regebro | mgedmin: I think so. | 17:08 |
| regebro | queryAdapter raises a Type error if no adapter is found, right. Unless you provide None as a default? | 17:09 |
| regebro | I tested that and it seems to work, at least. | 17:09 |
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| mgedmin | queryAdapter doesn't, it's getAdapter or IAdapter(context) that raises a TypeError | 17:09 |
| mgedmin | queryAdapter or IAdapter(context, default) return the default | 17:10 |
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| regebro | mgedmin: OK, then it doesn't have the same behaviour. | 17:11 |
| regebro | Raising a TypeError in __init__, I mean. it makes queryAdapter raise an error too. | 17:12 |
| mgedmin | okay | 17:13 |
| mgedmin | although I admit that the thought of using __new__ makes me uneasy | 17:13 |
| regebro | mgedmin: Yeah, me too. :) | 17:13 |
| mgedmin | I'd probably create a global function getAdapter(context): if IAnnotations(context, None) is None: return None; else: return MyAdapter(context) | 17:14 |
| mgedmin | one downside from a semi-available adapter like this | 17:14 |
| mgedmin | is that if you have an adapter on IBaseInterface, and a more specific semi-adapter on ISubInterface, then you'll never get the base adapter | 17:14 |
| mgedmin | you'll always get the more specific one or none at all, when the more-specific one returns None | 17:15 |
| * mgedmin thinks this was too confusing | 17:15 | |
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| J1m | Theuni_, ayt? | 17:25 |
| Theuni_ | jup | 17:26 |
| J1m | What do you think about the current state of zodb 3.8? | 17:27 |
| Theuni_ | rc | 17:27 |
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| Theuni_ | All bugs that I assumed were blocking a 3.8 release are done | 17:28 |
| J1m | cool | 17:28 |
| J1m | do you need help with the release? | 17:28 |
| Theuni_ | the bugs i'm currently fiddling with are <= medium | 17:28 |
| Theuni_ | As you did the betas I'd love if you could do the release. | 17:29 |
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| Theuni_ | (Hmm. Ok. That's your beloved counter argument *G) | 17:29 |
| Theuni_ | Whoever does the most work can do even more =) | 17:29 |
| Theuni_ | Honestly, I'd feel better if you did the release. I'm somewhat not trusting myself to that right now. | 17:30 |
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| J1m | np, maybe I'll get this done this weekend. | 17:30 |
| J1m | btw, I finally managed to get a 64-bit linux machine to test on. | 17:31 |
| Theuni_ | yay! | 17:31 |
| Theuni_ | I just found out that all core 2 duos are 64-bit actually | 17:31 |
| Theuni_ | that means I actually have three different 64-bit machines around | 17:31 |
| Theuni_ | only that i'm not running a 64-bit kernel on my notebook | 17:32 |
| J1m | yes, this machine is an old core 2 duo laptop that got replaced by a mac. | 17:32 |
| Theuni_ | :) | 17:32 |
| Theuni_ | actually i wondered: shouldn't mac be a 64-bit platform then too? | 17:32 |
| J1m | My mac is an older core duo. | 17:33 |
| Theuni_ | ah | 17:33 |
| Theuni_ | btw: notice the shiny tests i wrote for the file cache =) | 17:34 |
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| J1m | I saw them go by. I wasn't in a position to appreciate their gloss. | 17:35 |
| Theuni_ | no problem. if you have some spare time (sic) I'd love to get some feedback. | 17:36 |
| Theuni_ | I was writing them when I hunted alans bug | 17:36 |
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| J1m | I know. | 17:42 |
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| * mgedmin misread that as "alien bug" | 17:43 | |
| Theuni_ | hehe | 17:45 |
| Theuni_ | now i have to kill you as you found out the truth | 17:45 |
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| mgedmin | so that's why roger started talking about 42-bit CPUs | 17:48 |
| Theuni_ | 42-bit CPUs are Intels `Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything` | 17:50 |
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| ccomb | Is there a convenient event I can use at startup to create a needed object? | 18:49 |
| mgedmin | IDatabaseOpenedEvent, IIRC | 18:52 |
| mgedmin | check out how zope.app.appsetup does it | 18:52 |
| ccomb | that's it thanks, (I was just finding IObjectEvents) | 18:53 |
| * ccomb wil add this one on the FAQ | 18:54 | |
| mgedmin | check the spelling first | 18:54 |
| mgedmin | I might have misremembered the name | 18:54 |
| ccomb | I'll first make it work | 18:55 |
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| ccomb | or maybe IProcessStartingEvent | 18:56 |
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| ccomb | mgedmin actually the correct event is IDatabaseOpenedWithRoot | 19:07 |
| mgedmin | that's why I told you to check :) | 19:08 |
| ccomb | :) thanks again | 19:08 |
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