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| malthe | tlotze: I thought about adding concatenation, hashing (twice: once to check for duplicity, once for caching purposes) to zc.resourcelibrary; I looked at z3c.resourcecollector (recently developed at the snow sprint) and I'm not sure it's on the right track. | 00:01 |
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| tlotze | Hm, I'm afraid I'm not deeply enough into that to give you an answer off the top of my head. I can put it on my list of things to look at, though. It's a long list, BTW ;o) | 00:03 |
| malthe | right; actually I was going to just do it myself | 00:04 |
| malthe | unless you have the time .... | 00:04 |
| tlotze | Hm, if I may suggest something... just go ahead :o) | 00:04 |
| malthe | hehe | 00:05 |
| malthe | tlotze: but I'd like to not plug in to the publisher | 00:05 |
| tlotze | I mean, it's not as if I was some sort of champion of that package or something. I haven't even done much on it, some check-ins some time ago probably... | 00:05 |
| malthe | gotcha | 00:06 |
| tlotze | OK, plugging into the publisher sounds intriguing. Can you support that with some code? Maybe I see something... | 00:07 |
| malthe | it's there | 00:07 |
| malthe | it's nasty | 00:07 |
| ignas | how do I properly remove + unregister a local utility? | 00:07 |
| tlotze | Ah, so you want to plug out of it, so to speak | 00:07 |
| malthe | yes | 00:08 |
| malthe | it should really be conditional I think | 00:08 |
| malthe | if you do proper 2-phase rendering, it can be done correctly with a content provider. | 00:08 |
| tlotze | OK, I'll take a look at it tomorrow morning on the train. Too late for me today. | 00:08 |
| malthe | appreciate it | 00:09 |
| tlotze | np | 00:09 |
| ignas | J1m: are you there? | 00:12 |
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| ignas | I am trying to unregister a local utility that is a Catalog | 00:33 |
| ignas | which leads to a could not find IIntId utility error | 00:34 |
| ignas | I have traced it to the attempt to reindex the siteManager object due to an IObjectRemoved event | 00:34 |
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| ignas | while reindexing - getAllUtilitiesRegisteredFor(ICatalog) call returns the Catalog that I am trying to remove | 00:35 |
| ignas | even though i have unregistered it and am just trying to 'del' it | 00:35 |
| ignas | naturally a call to getUtility(IIntIds, context=cat) fails, because the catalog in question has no __parent__ anymore | 00:36 |
| ignas | because well - it's in the middle of being removed from the site manager | 00:36 |
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| ignas | so - what might I be doing wrong? and what would be the right way to solve the problem? | 00:36 |
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| J1m | ignas, ayt? | 01:11 |
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| ignas | J1m: yes | 01:15 |
| J1m | ignas, you are falling victim to over-general subscribers. | 01:15 |
| ignas | i see | 01:16 |
| ignas | it seems that reindexDocSubscriber is registered for everything | 01:16 |
| ignas | except for the INoAutoReindex objects | 01:16 |
| ignas | i have worked around it by setting __parent__ and __name__ of the Catalog to None | 01:16 |
| ignas | to muffle all the events | 01:16 |
| ignas | but I am not 100% sure it is safe to do that | 01:16 |
| ignas | because I don't know what other subscribers are fired when you remove something from the siteManager | 01:17 |
| J1m | It doesn't really matter. | 01:17 |
| J1m | You should remove *this* subscriber and add one that is more selective. | 01:17 |
| J1m | alternatively, you can blacklist some types/classes with INoAutoReindex, which seems very reasonable to me. | 01:18 |
| J1m | The general subscribers are kinda convenient for getting started. | 01:19 |
| ignas | hmm, i guess classes like site manager should be excluded by default, but adding that to either zope.app.catalog or the component registry adds an unnecessary dependency | 01:19 |
| ignas | so i'll probably have to add it to my application | 01:19 |
| ignas | though isn | 01:19 |
| ignas | isn't it better to not register the reindex and index subscribers at all, and allow users of Catalog to register them when they need them | 01:20 |
| J1m | But after a while, you generaly want to be more specific. The INoAutoReindex seems like a nice interim tool. | 01:21 |
| J1m | I don't understand what you are talking about. | 01:21 |
| J1m | In zcml. I think you can just mark classes to exclude with INoAutoReindex. | 01:21 |
| ignas | I understand, but that solves this problem only for me, and I was thinking of a way to solve it to others too. | 01:22 |
| ignas | Without that declaration removal of Catalog is more or less impossible ... | 01:22 |
| J1m | That's the problem, sometimes trying to solve something generally just creates general problems. :) | 01:22 |
| ignas | :) | 01:23 |
| ignas | makes sense :) | 01:23 |
| benji | That's generally the case. ;) | 01:23 |
| ignas | thanks for the solution | 01:23 |
| ignas | i'll just add it next to the catalog zcml include | 01:23 |
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| ignas | by the way - maybe you know whether iterating using storage.record_iternext(next_oid) yields objects that have not been "garbage collected" too, or only the accessible ones | 01:25 |
| ignas | i am removing an object in one evolution script and still getting an interface not found error in the next evolution script that traverses through all the objects using record_iternext | 01:26 |
| ignas | even though the interface was stored only on the object that was deleted | 01:27 |
| Theuni | from the top of my head the interface for record_iternext only says `current` objects. it doesn't talk about garbage collection. i guess that your experience is unfortunately congruent. | 01:30 |
| ignas | Theuni: thanks for teaching me a new word ;) | 01:31 |
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| ignas | i guess i'll have to remove the interface in the next iteration | 01:34 |
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| astoon | Hi all. Someone knows why grokproject/paster not working xml-rpc ? | 14:37 |
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| astoon | I'm sorry, I wanted to say, zopeproject. | 14:48 |
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| astoon | i.e. every time I try to connect to XML-RPC with zopeproject appear processes - zombies | 15:24 |
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| tlotze | malthe: ayt? | 22:49 |
| ignas | J1m: fyi - the catalog removal was my mistake apparently, I have passed wrong arguments (2 arguments switched places) to unregisterUtility call, thus leaving the Catalog still registered before removing it. And didn't check for the value unregisterUtility returns ... | 22:52 |
| * ignas kind of expected to get an error if there is no such utility in the component registry | 22:54 | |
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