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| quodt | hey there, is there a way to avoid the DisconnectedError while running evolve scripts with long commit at the end of the script? | 12:27 |
| quodt | the evolve script modifies just about 40000 objects and i'm doing a savepoint after 10000 objects | 12:28 |
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| Theuni | quodt: "the" disconnectederror? | 12:44 |
| Theuni | i wouldn't see why that would cause a disconnection\ | 12:44 |
| quodt | Theuni: i just found a configuration option in zeo.conf | 12:45 |
| quodt | transaction-timeout 300 | 12:45 |
| quodt | i increased that to 900 and give it another try | 12:46 |
| Theuni | Ah. | 12:46 |
| Theuni | I never ran into commits that took that long. | 12:46 |
| Theuni | good to know | 12:46 |
| Theuni | so it looks like the answer is: yes | 12:46 |
| quodt | :) yeah...hopefully | 12:47 |
| goschtl | Theuni: iirc we have talked on grokkerdam about zope and soap. Do you have something on pipe in this topic... | 12:51 |
| Theuni | not currently | 12:52 |
| goschtl | Theuni: ok thanks | 12:53 |
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| mintsauce | Hi all. I have a method, definied within a BrowserPage class, within a module. This is linked to a .pt view. The method displays the results fine in that pt, but I want to call it from another view. How do i call the method (but not the browser view class) from another module? | 13:48 |
| mintsauce | Is my mistake mixing the browser view and method in the first place? | 13:50 |
| ccomb | if you need to share a method between two views, you should consider creating a base class and inheriting your two views from it | 13:50 |
| ccomb | depending on what you want to do, you can also move the thing into an adapter | 13:51 |
| mintsauce | ccomb: Thats what i was thinking. So (simply) method.py and view1.py, view2.py for view1.pt and view2.pt. | 13:52 |
| mintsauce | the views import the method.py | 13:52 |
| mintsauce | Hmm ... adapter might make sense - reading more about it :) | 13:54 |
| ccomb | think about what you method does, if it takes your content as input and do something with it, you can define an interface offering what you need, then an adapter that implement this interface and adapt your context object | 13:55 |
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| mintsauce | Leading on from the last question, the method displays the result using 'return results' in the py and tal:content="view/methodname" in the pt. How do i allow the view to display other variables, without using 'return'? i.e. the mehod uses an email address set with email = 'blah@blah.com' - how would i display that in the ..pt? | 14:16 |
| agroszer | what about self.email = 'blahblah' | 14:19 |
| agroszer | and tal:content="view/email" | 14:19 |
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| mintsauce | agroszer: hmm traversal error .. | 14:22 |
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| agroszer | you need to do that in the method | 14:23 |
| agroszer | first call the method | 14:23 |
| agroszer | then use view/email | 14:23 |
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| mintsauce | call the method in the pt? | 14:24 |
| agroszer | view/methodname | 14:24 |
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| lisppaste6 | mintsauce pasted "view" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/65012 | 14:32 |
| lisppaste6 | mintsauce annotated #65012 with "method" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/65012#1 | 14:33 |
| mintsauce | agroszer: the self.matches works, but not the self.contacts_master etc .... am i on the right lines? | 14:34 |
| agroszer | weird view ought to be global | 14:36 |
| agroszer | what's the error? | 14:37 |
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| mintsauce | NameError: global name 'contacts_master' is not defined | 14:38 |
| agroszer | self.matches = contacts_master.intersection(contacts_remote) | 14:39 |
| agroszer | self.matches = SELF.contacts_master.intersection(contacts_remote) | 14:39 |
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| mintsauce | doh! thats got it - thanks :) | 14:42 |
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| mintsauce | When an unauthorised user hits a page they dont have permission to view, how do i display my login form, rather than the default zope login one? Alternatively, how do i customise the latter? | 17:48 |
| thruflo | mintsauce: hang a page off zope.security.interfaces.IUnauthorized | 17:49 |
| thruflo | eg: http://pesto.largeblue.net/trac/browser/pesto/view/b1g2/configure.zcml#L371 | 17:49 |
| ccomb | mgedmin have you seen the "no space left" errors on the buildbot? | 17:51 |
| ccomb | I don't know if this is related but the ZODB tests forget a lot of junk in /tmp | 17:51 |
| mintsauce | thruflo: great thanks | 17:52 |
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| thruflo | np :) | 17:52 |
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| mgedmin | ccomb: fixed | 17:53 |
| ccomb | in the buildbot or zodb ? | 17:54 |
| mgedmin | collectd filled up /var with 5 gigabytes of rrd files tracking all tcp connections | 17:54 |
| mgedmin | maybe related to buildbot (do the tests listen on random tcp sockets?) | 17:54 |
| mgedmin | I disabled the tcpconn plugin of collectd so this won't happen again | 17:54 |
| ccomb | anyway the zodb tests should clean up correctly | 17:55 |
| mgedmin | there were a lot of leftover test junk files in /tmp too, but just a few hundred megs | 17:55 |
| mgedmin | yes they should | 17:55 |
| ccomb | mgedmin: don't you want to install python-imaging or any PIL package so that these import don't fail? | 17:56 |
| mintsauce | thruflo: Lol! --> "before we start, adapt all requests to a cockney user friendly timezone" - <zope:adapter factory=".timezone.london_innit" /> | 17:56 |
| ccomb | just to artificially reduced the number of errors :) | 17:56 |
| thruflo | :p | 17:56 |
| mgedmin | ccomb: won't work | 17:57 |
| thruflo | naming & late nights, discuss... | 17:57 |
| mgedmin | I have python-imaging installed there | 17:57 |
| mgedmin | and python-reportlab | 17:57 |
| mgedmin | z3c.rml still fails | 17:57 |
| mgedmin | python-reportlab doesn't distribute those .ttfs that z3c.rml's tests want | 17:57 |
| mgedmin | probably debian free-ness licencing issues of some kind | 17:57 |
| mgedmin | also, not isolating the buildbot sandbox from the system python packages makes more tests fail than it fixes | 17:58 |
| mgedmin | notice the nice new test run summaries on the waterfall page? | 17:59 |
| ccomb | nice :) | 18:04 |
| ccomb | you just have to display the "2 failures, 3 errors" on the waterfall :) | 18:04 |
| ccomb | oh | 18:05 |
| ccomb | but it's displayed | 18:05 |
| ccomb | I was just watching the summary page | 18:05 |
| ccomb | Can't we teach the buildbot how to fix the remaining tests ? :P | 18:06 |
| ccomb | With a little bit of IA | 18:06 |
| mgedmin | the PIL and reportlab errors could be fixed if the eggs were available from some index | 18:08 |
| mgedmin | IIRC the only problem with reportlab is that the filename of the tarball is not what setuptools expect | 18:08 |
| mgedmin | or something like that | 18:08 |
| mgedmin | the schooltool guys have working buildbots that install reportlab as an egg | 18:09 |
| ccomb | So is there any test that really needs to be fixed? Apart from fixing the tests itselfs or some dependencies? | 18:09 |
| ccomb | Should we try to include the remaining bug fixes? | 18:09 |
| ccomb | such as z3c.form 1.8.2 ? | 18:10 |
| mgedmin | I tried that and got a bunch of new errors in other packages | 18:10 |
| ccomb | with all at once? | 18:11 |
| mgedmin | no, just z3c.form | 18:11 |
| ccomb | ouch | 18:11 |
| mgedmin | I also wonder how much of the failures are caused by running two tests in parallel | 18:11 |
| mgedmin | some of those try to listen on hardcoded tcp ports, I noticed | 18:11 |
| ccomb | is it parallel by default? | 18:12 |
| mgedmin | all buildbots are scheduled for 4 am | 18:12 |
| mgedmin | so yes | 18:12 |
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| ccomb | I've tried to run the 2.4 and 2.5 at the same time, and it fails indeed | 18:12 |
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| mgedmin | okay, I've disabled z3c.rml tests (for now) | 18:16 |
| mgedmin | why can't I reproduce zope.server.ftp tests on my laptop? | 18:17 |
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| mgedmin | huh? | 18:24 |
| mgedmin | why do I get doctest errors about CRLF line endings in zope.app.authentication? | 18:25 |
| mgedmin | didn't you fix that? | 18:25 |
| mgedmin | this is on my laptop, btw | 18:25 |
| mgedmin | I just did svn up; bin/buildout; bin/generate-buildout; cd text; ../bin/buildout; bn/test | 18:25 |
| mgedmin | s/text/test/; s/bn/bin/ | 18:25 |
| ccomb | don't frighten me | 18:26 |
| mgedmin | zope.app.authentication-3.4.3-py2.5.egg | 18:26 |
| mgedmin | is that the right version? | 18:26 |
| mgedmin | I have a download cache, but you increased minor vewrsion numbers, right? | 18:26 |
| ccomb | yes I did | 18:27 |
| mgedmin | 3.4.3 | 18:27 |
| mgedmin | hm | 18:27 |
| ccomb | I've been spending a lot of time to build zope.app.container egg binary on windows | 18:27 |
| mgedmin | most interesting is why buildbot doesn't complain | 18:28 |
| ccomb | the tar.gz have been uploaded from linux, but the egg from windows | 18:28 |
| mgedmin | ValueError: line 13 of the docstring for principalfolder.txt has inconsistent leading whitespace: '\r' | 18:28 |
| ccomb | I shouldn't have uploaded the egg, actually | 18:28 |
| mgedmin | it has no binaries, right? | 18:28 |
| ccomb | no | 18:28 |
| ccomb | zope.app.auth don't | 18:28 |
| mgedmin | then it would be ok to remove the .egg files from pypi? | 18:29 |
| ccomb | ok I do that | 18:30 |
| ccomb | it's ok if we don't replace or remove the source | 18:30 |
| mgedmin | replacing a file would be bad | 18:30 |
| mgedmin | removing all of the files would be bad | 18:30 |
| ccomb | but this does not solve the same problem on zope.app.container binaries | 18:31 |
| mgedmin | I see no zope.app.container errors | 18:31 |
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| mgedmin | and I don't understand why my laptop sees an error in z.a.auth, but my buildbots don't | 18:31 |
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| mgedmin | okay, if I run zope.server tests in isolation, they pass | 18:40 |
| mgedmin | if I run all the tests at once, they fail | 18:40 |
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| mgedmin | something in the previous tests breaks something in the subsequent tests | 18:41 |
| ccomb | some ugly or missing teardown | 18:42 |
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| mgedmin | the zdaemon error is reproducible, but only on the 64-bit machine | 18:46 |
| mgedmin | reproducible in isolation, I mean | 18:47 |
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| Jero | d | 18:52 |
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| mgedmin | hm | 18:53 |
| Jero | Hello | 18:53 |
| benji | Jero: I agree | 18:53 |
| mgedmin | zdaemon's tests pass on my other 64-bit machine | 18:53 |
| Jero | is there the posibility to ask a question? | 18:54 |
| mgedmin | empirically, yes | 18:55 |
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| Jero | good, there it goes. I need to create several classes. They have to be like nested classes in which the superior class can contain several instances of the second level class, which in turn can contain multiple instances of the third level class and so on | 18:58 |
| Jero | until 4 levels | 18:58 |
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| Jero | what is the most efficient way to do that? lists, btrees, containers? | 18:59 |
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| mgedmin | containers is the canonical way to do that | 19:00 |
| mgedmin | you de | 19:00 |
| Jero | does anybody know if there is an example like that i can look at? | 19:00 |
| mgedmin | \ | 19:00 |
| mgedmin | sorry for the cat typing | 19:00 |
| mgedmin | you definitely don't want lists | 19:00 |
| mgedmin | and containers use btrees internally | 19:00 |
| mgedmin | not sure about examples; have you tried any of the zope 3 books? | 19:01 |
| * mgedmin 's zdaemon failure is nondeterministic, yay | 19:01 | |
| Jero | yes, i have Weitershausen's second edition | 19:01 |
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| Jero | i tried containers, but i don't know how to make the add/ edit forms for a container object | 19:02 |
| mgedmin | aha, repro on my local machine! | 19:03 |
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| benji | Jero: unfortunately that | 19:06 |
| benji | 's not really a question that's easy to answer in IRC | 19:06 |
| * benji wishes his Enter key and ' key weren't so close together. | 19:07 | |
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| Jero | i know, now it's ok to know that i should use containers | 19:09 |
| Jero | thanks a lot | 19:09 |
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| Jero | if someone can lead me to some container's form example i will appreciate it | 19:10 |
| ccomb | Jero the standard form for a container is zope.app.container.browser.contents.Contents | 19:12 |
| ccomb | or z3c.contents, based on z3c.table | 19:12 |
| Jero | thanks a lot, I will go back to the containers implemetation and look what went wrong | 19:16 |
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| mgedmin | ccomb: massive reduction in kgs failures | 21:56 |
| mgedmin | remaining: zope.server, z3c.form python 2.5 stuff and no-idea-what on the 64-bit py2.5 build slave | 21:56 |
| mgedmin | actually, the no-idea-what could be zope.security problems on python 2.5 on 64-bit | 21:57 |
| mgedmin | those MemoryErrors raised by ProxyFactory | 21:57 |
| mgedmin | hm | 21:58 |
| ccomb | excellent :) | 21:59 |
| ccomb | You have fixed things locally? | 22:00 |
| mgedmin | rm -rf'ed buildbot working tree | 22:00 |
| ccomb | 12163/1/3 ! | 22:01 |
| ccomb | we're close to the release :) | 22:01 |
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| ccomb | I see the translation domain of z3c.table is "z3c" | 22:16 |
| ccomb | Are there a package with z3c messages? | 22:16 |
| ccomb | Is there | 22:16 |
| philiKON | the domain should be z3c.table | 22:17 |
| philiKON | just like we should make individual domains for the zope.* packages | 22:17 |
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| ccomb | that's something to do for 3.5 | 22:18 |
| ccomb | explode zope.app.locales | 22:18 |
| philiKON | that' something to do... next :) | 22:18 |
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| philiKON | version 3.5 of what? :) | 22:18 |
| ccomb | zope | 22:18 |
| philiKON | there's no such thing :) | 22:19 |
| ccomb | I mean it should be ready for the next major version of the kgs | 22:20 |
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| srichter | ccomb: philiKON: http://download.zope.org/zope-dev/intro.html | 23:09 |
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| mgedmin | philiKON: there should be a zope3.5 eventually | 23:11 |
| philiKON | i guess so | 23:11 |
| mgedmin | some people may want to base their work on a stable target | 23:12 |
| mgedmin | it's like some people use debian unstable at home, while others use debian etch in production | 23:12 |
| mgedmin | slogan: "zope is a linux distro" | 23:12 |
| ccomb | mgedmin now you have to add 4 more buildbot tasks for zope-dev :) | 23:13 |
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| mgedmin | ccomb: tell me how, and I'll consider it | 23:15 |
| mgedmin | use trunk of zope.release instead of the 3.4 branch? | 23:15 |
| mgedmin | I'd also like to have buildouts of the zope3.4 svn tree | 23:15 |
| mgedmin | for completeness | 23:15 |
| mgedmin | and two 4-quad-core-CPU servers for all those | 23:16 |
| mgedmin | and a pony | 23:16 |
| ccomb | :) | 23:16 |
| mgedmin | with 6 years of systems administration experience | 23:16 |
| mgedmin | managing small linux infrastructures | 23:17 |
| mgedmin | :-) | 23:17 |
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| mgedmin | oh, right, iirc zope.security 3.4.0 has problems on py2.5 on 64-bit | 23:35 |
| mgedmin | and iirc 3.4.1 was tagged with the fix | 23:35 |
| mgedmin | but nobody built windows eggs for it, so kgs wasn't updated | 23:36 |
| mgedmin | hey, there are windows eggs of 3.4.1 | 23:37 |
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| mgedmin | waaaah | 23:44 |
| mgedmin | Module: zope.security.untrustedpython.tests | 23:44 |
| mgedmin | ValueError: line 15 of the docstring for builtins.txt has inconsistent leading whitespace: '\r' | 23:44 |
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| srichter | mgedmin: great work! | 23:56 |
| srichter | I feel like Zope 3.4.0 will be the best tested release | 23:56 |
| mgedmin | hm | 23:56 |
| mgedmin | pypi question | 23:56 |
| mgedmin | suppose, hypothetically speaking, that there is a zope.security 3.4.1 source distribution in a .zip file | 23:57 |
| mgedmin | that contains broken doctests | 23:57 |
| mgedmin | suppose someone uploads a working .tar.gz source distribution | 23:57 |
| mgedmin | built from the same svn tag | 23:57 |
| mgedmin | and removes the broken .zip file from pypi | 23:57 |
| mgedmin | would that be good or bad? | 23:57 |
| srichter | I think that would be okay | 23:58 |
| * mgedmin whews | 23:58 | |
| srichter | some would argue for a new release but I am more practical there :-) | 23:58 |
| mgedmin | new release is problematic (windows and binary eggs) | 23:58 |
| mgedmin | otoh there are 10 people in the world who have downloaded the broken source zip | 23:58 |
| mgedmin | and only one of them is me | 23:58 |
| srichter | right | 23:59 |
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