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| ccomb | setuptools 0.6c8 + subversion 1.5 is a real pain | 00:40 |
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| ccomb | it's causing me a headache everyday | 00:41 |
| * ccomb is about to subscribe to distutils-sig just to whine | 00:44 | |
| jamur2 | ccomb: http://bugs.python.org/setuptools/issue4 has a patched egg that I use | 00:47 |
| ccomb | jamur2 I'm already creating my own 0.6c9 but in a sanbox, there is always something that wants to download 0.6c8 | 00:49 |
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| ccomb | virtualenv downloads 0.6c8 by default | 00:51 |
| ccomb | the KGS also forces 0.6c8 | 00:51 |
| ccomb | even my grandmother wants 0.6c8 | 00:52 |
| jamur2 | heh | 00:52 |
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| jamur2 | i've got a .buildout/default.cfg so everything uses a common eggs-directory that helps | 00:53 |
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| mintsauce | I'm accessing a bunch of objects in a folder, using 'self.context.items()', then listing them via if 'IName.providedBy(child):' but filtering on owners via 'dc = IZopeDublinCore(child)' , 'creators = dc.creators' etc | 11:10 |
| mintsauce | This is fine in the short term, but too memory intensive in the long run, as obvously im listing all, then filtering. Is it possible to return a list with only certain owners using 'self.context.items()'? (So 'filtered list', rather than 'list then filter'). | 11:11 |
| junkafarian | mintsauce: you could move the filtering logic to a method in a class which extends the base Folder class? | 11:12 |
| philiKON | nah | 11:13 |
| philiKON | no need to modify existing code | 11:13 |
| philiKON | efficient filtering has nothing to do where it's done | 11:13 |
| philiKON | mintsauce: use a generator | 11:13 |
| philiKON | mintsauce: http://paste.plone.org/23186 | 11:15 |
| philiKON | notice the "yield" statement | 11:15 |
| mintsauce | yup ... | 11:15 |
| mintsauce | flicking through my python reference ;) | 11:16 |
| mintsauce | philiKON: nice - is this the most efficient way? This folder could have 1,000's of objects owned by different people - im still checking (waking?) each for ownership, whether they are used or not. | 11:20 |
| philiKON | yes | 11:20 |
| * mintsauce is thinking he should perhaps use user folders instead | 11:20 | |
| philiKON | there's little way round that | 11:20 |
| philiKON | if you want a more efficient system, i suggest dedicated indexes | 11:20 |
| philiKON | e.g. a creators index | 11:21 |
| philiKON | that indexes docs based on their creators | 11:21 |
| mintsauce | philiKON: i can appreciate that - to check something you have to access it ;) | 11:21 |
| philiKON | the only advantage of the generator is that it doesn't consume too much memory at the same time. | 11:22 |
| mintsauce | User folders would help in the long run too wouldn't they? That way i would just be running a python level security check on a lot less objects I could assumed were owned by that user? | 11:22 |
| mintsauce | (although I'd have to modify the folder logic and user creation a fair bit) | 11:23 |
| junkafarian | mintsauce: harder to search/filter that way though | 11:24 |
| junkafarian | ie for other comparisons | 11:25 |
| mintsauce | true ... | 11:25 |
| philiKON | mintsauce: not sure what you mean by user folders. | 11:25 |
| junkafarian | id go for an index too | 11:25 |
| philiKON | mintsauce: certainly that would be such an index. poor man's version | 11:25 |
| mintsauce | at the moment there is one folder /stuff/objects - the objects are listed and filtered by users | 11:26 |
| mintsauce | if it was stuff/username/objects you would have a lot less objects to filter (you could almost assume they were that users anyway) | 11:27 |
| philiKON | right | 11:27 |
| philiKON | as said, that's one way to cut down the objects to wake up | 11:27 |
| philiKON | in a way the dedicated 'username' container would be a poor man's index | 11:27 |
| philiKON | so if that works for you, why not | 11:28 |
| mintsauce | not sure it works for me as such - it would mean mixing user logic into the folder logic and all the 'fun' that that might involve ;) | 11:29 |
| mintsauce | How fast is indexing - if i had a 100,000 users with 50 objects, is it going to give me the same performance improvement that specific user folders would? | 11:30 |
| philiKON | well, indexing would happen whenever the object changed | 11:30 |
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| philiKON | you're probably wondering about the searching | 11:30 |
| philiKON | the searching is fast | 11:31 |
| philiKON | because you're essentially looking up things in a mapping | 11:31 |
| philiKON | docs = index[creator] | 11:31 |
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| philiKON | (pseudo code) | 11:31 |
| philiKON | and you get back a list of integers (int ids) | 11:32 |
| philiKON | which you then use to wake up the objects you're interested in | 11:32 |
| mintsauce | ah .... i see - it is a different method entirely, but i can see that it would be quick | 11:33 |
| mintsauce | philiKON: you should write a book ;P | 11:33 |
| philiKON | no kiddin | 11:34 |
| mintsauce | Thanks for the advice guys, thats made it all a lot clearer. | 11:34 |
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| mintsauce | philiKON: is there a pdf version of your book, for those that own the print version? | 13:13 |
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| mintsauce | hi all - trying to adapt IPrincipal annotations ( as per philiKON 's book) - thought it would just be a matter of adding newvar = MappingProperty('newvar') - but im getting a keyError ....... what am I missing? | 15:28 |
| lisppaste6 | mintsauce pasted "Member Annotations" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/65304 | 15:29 |
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| thruflo | have you already got a ppl adapted with memberinfo in the zodb - i.e.: when their mapping was created, it had fewer keys | 15:44 |
| thruflo | you may need to force the mapping to be reset / have the new property added to it | 15:44 |
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| mintsauce | thruflo: ahh - yeah I have - how do i do that? is it a database generations thing? | 15:46 |
| thruflo | . | 15:48 |
| mintsauce | ..? ;) | 15:48 |
| lisppaste6 | thruflo pasted "add if statement for mapping key" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/65305 | 15:49 |
| thruflo | there we go | 15:49 |
| thruflo | something along those lines...? | 15:49 |
| mintsauce | great, thanks, ill give it a try - as an aside, does this mean memberinfo interfaces are different from others? i.e. for other objects I can add as many new fields as I like and it doesnt complain .... | 15:51 |
| thruflo | possibly because the book implementation uses the MappingProperty class | 15:52 |
| thruflo | not sure other adapter code always does | 15:52 |
| mintsauce | thruflo: ok thanks :) | 15:55 |
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| * ccomb is having a bad time trying to understand the zope.server test failure after ZODB test | 16:54 | |
| ccomb | mgedmin had isolated the failure : bin/test -pvc1 -m zope.server -t testSTOR_over -m ZEO -t insane | 16:55 |
| ccomb | a trigger is created at import time as a pipe with fd = 11 | 16:56 |
| ccomb | for some reason, this trigger is no more available when the test happens | 16:57 |
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| ccomb | The ZEO test called multiple_storages_invalidation_queue_is_not_insane calls server.close_server() | 18:43 |
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| ccomb | # Force the asyncore mainloop to exit by hackery | 18:46 |
| ccomb | # i.e. close every socket in the map. loop() will return when the map is empty. | 18:47 |
| ccomb | ahh :) | 18:54 |
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| ccomb | there is some duplicated code between zope.server and ZEO.zrpc | 18:54 |
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| * ccomb reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/zodb/+bug/257954 | 20:29 | |
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| ccomb | this is for bin/test -pvc1 -m zope.server -t testSTOR_over -m ZEO -t insane | 20:31 |
| ccomb | There is a second problem with bin/test -pvc1 -m ZEO -t insane --repeat 2 | 20:32 |
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| srichter | ccomb: are those the final failures in the KGS? | 20:44 |
| ccomb | in 32 bits yes | 20:44 |
| srichter | very cool | 20:45 |
| ccomb | It can be fixed either in ZEO or in zope.server | 20:45 |
| srichter | mmh, ok | 20:45 |
| ccomb | Is there a chance we have a release of ZODB 3.8.1 soon ? | 20:45 |
| srichter | ccomb: we can ask Jim when he is back | 20:46 |
| ccomb | Anyway I'll try to find a way to fix it in zope.server | 20:46 |
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| ccomb | srichter ping | 22:33 |
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| srichter | ccomb: pong | 22:34 |
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| ccomb | I've found a way to prevent failures on zope.server by moving some imports in the setUp | 22:34 |
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| ccomb | I'm running the full kgs test suite to check | 22:34 |
| srichter | ccomb: cool | 22:34 |
| srichter | do you know why th eimport order matters? | 22:34 |
| ccomb | the testrunner imports everything before the tests | 22:35 |
| srichter | ah ok | 22:35 |
| ccomb | while importing zope.server.dualmodechannel, it creates a socket (trigger) | 22:35 |
| ccomb | this socket is closed by the ZEO tests (cf bug report) | 22:35 |
| srichter | ahh, good work | 22:36 |
| ccomb | I've moved the imports of WSGIHTTPServer, HTTPServer, and others | 22:36 |
| srichter | I see | 22:36 |
| ccomb | the real problem is both in ZEO and zope.server | 22:37 |
| ccomb | If ok I would like to release zope.server 3.4.3 and zope.publisher 3.4.4 | 22:37 |
| ccomb | and zc.zope3recipes | 22:37 |
| ccomb | and include them in the KGS, then see if mgedmin's buildbot is happier | 22:38 |
| srichter | yep | 22:39 |
| srichter | +1 | 22:39 |
| ccomb | So I need the upload permission for these packages on pypi | 22:39 |
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| srichter | ccomb: what is your username for pypi? | 22:42 |
| ccomb | ccomb | 22:43 |
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| chaoflow | in a FunctionalDocFileSuite from zope.app.testing.functional, I call getRootFolder(): this works fine, if I zcml include zope.app.zcmlfiles in newer zope3. In Zope-2.10.4 there is no zope.app.zcmfiles and getRootFolder() fails with "KeyError: 'Application'". What do I need to include to make it work? | 23:15 |
| chaoflow | http://paste.plone.org/23199 | 23:19 |
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| chaoflow | zope.app.appsetup is the answer | 23:40 |
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