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| mgedmin | fun discovery of the day: Bad Things happen if you use copy.deepcopy() on OOBTree objects | 18:32 |
| mgedmin | AttributeError: 'Length' object has no attribute 'value' | 18:32 |
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| jml | hi | 19:55 |
| jml | If I wanted to add an OutputFormatter to zope.testing that depended on some other code, what would be the best way of doing it? | 19:56 |
| mgedmin | create a branch? | 19:58 |
| jml | well, yeah. | 19:58 |
| jml | but are there any conditional dependency things I should think about | 19:58 |
| mgedmin | what is "some other code", btw? | 19:58 |
| jml | mgedmin, subunit. https://launchpad.net/subunit | 19:59 |
| jml | mgedmin, I don't _really_ need to depend on it, I could just reimplement the relevant bits. But yuck. | 19:59 |
| mgedmin | I see three options, one of which is probably not acceptable: | 19:59 |
| mgedmin | 0) unconditionally depend on subunit [unlikely] | 19:59 |
| mgedmin | 1) import subunit only if the user selects your output formatter, don't mention the dependency in setup.py | 20:00 |
| mgedmin | 2) use extra_requires or however it is spelled | 20:00 |
| mgedmin | extras_require? | 20:00 |
| mgedmin | there were long threads in zope-dev@ about extras | 20:00 |
| mgedmin | I don't recall if we reached consensus | 20:00 |
| mgedmin | probably not | 20:00 |
| jml | mgedmin, ok, thanks. | 20:01 |
| mgedmin | ctheune is the primary maintainer of zope.testing these days, but he seems to be offline atm | 20:01 |
| kobold | 3) use try: import subunit except ImportError: pass and raise exception if the user selects the output formatter? | 20:01 |
| jml | mgedmin, I'll do 1) for now, going via 2) | 20:01 |
| jml | kobold, I guess that's kind of a variation on 1) | 20:01 |
| mgedmin | yeah | 20:01 |
| mgedmin | although it's nicer | 20:02 |
| kobold | yup | 20:02 |
| jml | mgedmin, I meant to say "going via 0". | 20:02 |
| jml | mgedmin, oh right, I thought it was what you meant :) | 20:02 |
| mgedmin | telling the user explicitly to install subunit instead of leaving a long ImportError traceback | 20:02 |
| jml | anyway | 20:02 |
| jml | oh heck yes | 20:02 |
| * mgedmin kinda regrets numbering from 0 | 20:02 | |
| mgedmin | I'd probably go with "conditional import, no explicitly declared dependency" | 20:03 |
| jml | mgedmin, kobold: thanks. I'll bang something out. | 20:03 |
| jml | where should I submit patches. | 20:03 |
| mgedmin | launchpad? | 20:03 |
| jml | mgedmin, woot! :) | 20:03 |
| mgedmin | zope-dev@zope.org? | 20:03 |
| mgedmin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope.testing | 20:03 |
| jml | mgedmin, sure. If you guys use Launchpad then everything is groovy :) | 20:04 |
| mgedmin | for some values of use... | 20:04 |
| mgedmin | jml, you're not a zope committer? | 20:06 |
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| jml | mgedmin, not that I'm aware of | 20:06 |
| mgedmin | hm | 20:06 |
| jml | mgedmin, I'm just a nice guy. | 20:06 |
| mgedmin | I seem to remember some language in the Zope committer's agreement of only committing code I have copyright to or something like that | 20:07 |
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| mgedmin | since IANAL I was never sure if I'm allowed to apply other people's patches or not | 20:07 |
| jml | mgedmin, oh right. | 20:07 |
| mgedmin | there's joint copyright assignment involved too | 20:07 |
| mgedmin | it's less draconian than the canonical one, though | 20:07 |
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| jml | heh heh | 20:09 |
| mgedmin | jml, http://foundation.zope.org/agreements/ZopeFoundation_Committer_Agreement | 20:09 |
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| jml | mgedmin, thanks | 20:09 |
| jml | mgedmin, for now though, I'll just write the code :) | 20:10 |
| jml | lawyer stuff can happen later. | 20:10 |
| * mgedmin hates lawyer stuff | 20:10 | |
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