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mgedminI've got a little problem12:24
mgedminif a conflict error happens, zope 3 tries to render my custom error view with no interaction defined12:24
mgedminevery security check fails with AttributeError("'thread._local' object has no attribute 'interaction'",)12:25
mgedminand these get silently converted into TraversalErrors12:25
mgedminthis only happens for conflict errors12:40
mgedminpublication.endRequest() is called before publication.handleException(..., retryException.getOriginalException())12:40
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Theuni1hmm12:46
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mgedminwhat, there's no #lxml?15:34
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goschtlmgedmin: thats because the documentation is so good -- there are no questions ;)15:37
* mgedmin falls down on the floor laughing15:39
mgedminthat was a good joke15:39
mgedmin"good documentation", hah15:39
mgedminum, sorry for losing my composure for a bit there15:39
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mgedminI've just come to an interesting realization: I use verifyObject() to make sure my interfaces match my classes15:56
mgedminrather than the other way around15:56
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trollfothello16:02
goschtlhello16:02
goschtlyes16:03
goschtlthats the one16:03
trollfot:)16:03
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goschtltrollfot: it seems Theun1 has quit16:03
goschtlsorry16:03
trollfotanyone here can tell me if I have to _really_ join a copy of the ZPL with a zope.* package release ?16:03
mgedmin"join"?16:04
trollfotput it in the ZIP.16:05
trollfotit says quite explicitly "A copy of the ZPL should accompany this distribution.", yet, I never saw a copy of the ZPL shipped with any of the zope.* package16:06
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mgedminwe're all a bit lax about lawyerly things like that, I suppose...16:38
trollfotI want to release a zope package, I just don't want to make a wrong move and be crucified16:39
mgedminI'm sure if you put it in, nobody will complain16:44
benjiAnd I'm sure that if you follow the status quo, nobody will complain.16:44
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trollfotalright, let's go for it then, i've delayed that enough16:46
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ignasbenji, people who are trying to package Zope for debian, ubuntu etc are complaining17:09
ignasbenji, a friend of mine used to do the "Add licence to all the packages" runs on the repository ;)17:10
koboldignas: yes, the Debian policy requires the software to ship the license too.17:10
trollfoterh.17:11
koboldor at least, to be explicit re: license and copyright17:11
trollfotWe need to mass-add it, then :)17:11
koboldtrollfot: saying "this software is released under the ZPL version 2.1" is enough17:11
koboldsaying nothing is not enough, obviously :)17:12
trollfotwell, the big ZPL headers are enough, then17:14
ignastrollfot, do you *know* that or do you just think so?17:14
trollfotignas: I wonder. If I really knew, I wouldn't have asked in the first place17:15
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koboldtrollfot: yes, the headers are enough17:16
ignaskobold, A copy of the ZPL should accompany this distribution.17:16
ignasare in the headers17:16
ignasso if you put the header in17:16
trollfotI'd rather trade them for a single file, outside the source code though. But I gues, that would not be possible. Too bad, it sucks to have useless text in py files17:16
ignasplease - "accompany" it with ZPL.txt ;)17:16
koboldignas: I'm quite sure we have packages in the archive without the full license text in the source code17:17
ignasyes, and that's bad17:17
koboldignas: just in debian/copyright... I agree with you that it would be needed, though17:17
koboldignas: yeah, you are right17:17
trollfotyes, I released without it. i'll add it now. most of the recent zope packages don't contain the licence.17:18
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trollfotignas: baijum: i released zope.pluggableauth and now zope.app.authentication is ready in my branch to use it. Do you know who is the active mantainer of the package ? My mail on the mailing list, last month didn't sparkle much interest. Should I just proceed ?18:19
trollfotI ask you, cause I see your names as package admins, on pypi, amongst others18:19
baijumtrollfot: AFAIK, there is no single maintainer, but that package still being used by Zope 3, I guess Grok also, it would be better to ask in zope-dev list18:21
trollfotbaijum: I did that already, but, well, people don't react much. And yes, it's used by both, I do that for Dolmen (a grok application). The change is just a dependency split, there is no API change, and there are imports, so it doesn't break anything18:23
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baijumtrollfot: please send a reminder and if no one complain, please proceed18:24
trollfotok :)18:24
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trollfotbaijum: there, a small reminder. Thanks :)18:32
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baijumtrollfot: cool :)18:43
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mgedminhm, when a system error happens during a selenium test (gocept.selenium), the traceback is hidden from me18:50
mgedminin fact selenium thinks it's just a normal page and starts looking for requested patterns within it  :(18:50
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koboldhow am I supposed to put twisted.web in my setup.py's install_requires?19:31
mgedminI'd be inclined to cargo-cult zope.app.twisted's setup.py19:33
koboldadding Twisted>=9.0.0 worked19:34
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