IRC log of #zope3-dev for Wednesday, 2011-01-05

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bbot_ztk10devbuild #127 of Python2.4.6 Linux 64bit started, including []04:00
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mgedmindoes the ZopePublication retry logic rely on the code using a fresh ZODB connection, or does it also work if the conneciton is reused?19:33
mgedminlet me rephrase: is transaction.abort() enough to make an existing open connection return newer versions of objects?19:34
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davisaglimgedmin: I know it removes changed objects from the cache, but not sure what happens with unchanged objects19:39
* mgedmin reading the source19:43
mgedminlooks like it invalidates just modified/added objects19:43
mgedminand it processes invalidations from the storage only in open() or sync()19:45
mgedminif I'm right, then RAMSessionDataContainer is badly broken -- it opens connections to its own private MappingStorage once per thread19:46
mgedminand if a conflict error occurs, retrying won't fix it19:46
mgedminthat can't be right -- people would've noticed this sort of bug, wouldn't they?19:46
mgedminbut wait, RAMSessionDataContainer is not used by default19:48
mgedminthis is beginning to sound plausible19:48
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mgedminMVCC relies on every connection being re-opened or synced often, right?20:10
* mgedmin looks at J1m20:11
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J1mmgedmin, wha?21:32
J1mmvcc in zodb relies on a database being connected to a server constantly, to get invalidations, or on polling.21:34
J1mThere are other subtleties.21:34
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