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| planetzopebot | Tips for Greenlighting a Framework (plope) http://plope.com/Members/chrism/greenlighting_a_framework | 05:04 |
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| new2 | can i get example codes for user registration and file upload | 07:36 |
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| wreiner | hi! I've got an old zope installation (2.8.7) with python 2.3.4 but now have to move to a newer machine with python 2.4.3. as mentioned in the release notes of 2.8 it is only recommended to use python 2.3.4 or 2.3.5. so my question: is it safe to update zope to a newer version like 2.10.9 used in red hat el? | 10:56 |
| betabug | wreiner: you have 2 options: | 10:58 |
| betabug | - install python 2.3.x alongside the machine installed 2.4 (which is no problem at all for python, in fact lots of people recommend installing a python for zope's use anyway) | 10:59 |
| kosh | test the software on a newer zope release | 10:59 |
| kosh | if it works use that | 10:59 |
| betabug | - test the software (zope products) on a newer zope | 10:59 |
| betabug | and as kosh said, use that - which is the preferred way, as 2.8 is pretty old | 10:59 |
| wreiner | yeah i know. i was wondering if there are known issues in such an update :) | 11:00 |
| wreiner | so thanks to both of you. i'll try the update way | 11:00 |
| kosh | betabug: I actually used your witch thing today for some of my cluster stuff | 11:02 |
| betabug | hope it worked :-) | 11:02 |
| kosh | betabug: since error_log is not shared I needed to generate something liek foo.com/z1 foo.com/z2 and still have it go to the zope root just a specfic instance | 11:02 |
| kosh | yeah it worked out fine | 11:02 |
| betabug | wreiner: it mostly depends on the installed products | 11:02 |
| kosh | trying to do it myself I kept getting the entry wrong | 11:03 |
| betabug | wreiner: if you have plone installed, seek counsel! | 11:03 |
| betabug | kosh: that was the reason for making the witch, those pesky details that I kept getting wrong because I wasn't doing that stuff every day | 11:03 |
| kosh | now I am just going to make a tiny python product which has for its manage a frame that has a line for Control Panel and another for error_log that does foo.com/z1/error_log etc etc | 11:05 |
| kosh | that way someone can use the web interface to restart any server and check the error_log | 11:05 |
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| wreiner | betabug: not sure about plone but i hope not :) thank you | 11:06 |
| kosh | if you fine plone is involved | 11:07 |
| kosh | go get a case of wiskey | 11:07 |
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| kosh | betabug: what else would you recommend? | 11:09 |
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| wreiner | kosh: hehe :D | 11:09 |
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| wreiner | plone is not installed as package so i hope it's not used :) | 11:10 |
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| betabug | kosh: depending on what they need, just a link to restart, pack, error_log each | 11:15 |
| betabug | in case of plohn, I'd recommend a shrink | 11:15 |
| kosh | betabug: only need to pack in one since it is zeo so that part is easy | 11:15 |
| kosh | betabug: but I meant for wreiner what else do you recommend beyond whiskey if plone is involved? | 11:16 |
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| betabug | ah, yeah | 11:49 |
| betabug | a shrink with a quick hand to prescribe strong medics | 11:49 |
| betabug | the pain will be huge | 11:49 |
| wreiner | i didn't find anything that says plone. so the hope still lives :) | 11:50 |
| betabug | good :-) | 11:50 |
| betabug | you should be able to have a look in the Products directory of the instance | 11:51 |
| wreiner | yes. there is no plone directory | 11:51 |
| betabug | are there a lot of products? maybe you want to put the listing of that directory on a pastebin? | 11:52 |
| * kosh hands out drinks to celebrate | 11:52 | |
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| wreiner | http://pastebin.com/UNw1pdM7 | 11:53 |
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| betabug | hmmm, that PHParser thing is suspicious | 11:56 |
| betabug | LocalFS probably needs an updated version, maybe a patch too, depending on what you upgrade to | 11:56 |
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| betabug | same with ZMySQLDA - gotta find the latest version | 11:57 |
| betabug | the other SQL-related ones I've got no clue about | 11:57 |
| betabug | Customer + Customer2 are probably custom built - you can only try to upgrade and see what happens | 11:57 |
| betabug | if they're well built, there should be no problem | 11:57 |
| betabug | ExternalEditor, just check to get the latest version, but should be non-critical | 11:58 |
| betabug | no idea what SetTag is | 11:58 |
| wreiner | perhaps its easier to install python in a lower version | 11:59 |
| betabug | it depends on your future plans | 11:59 |
| betabug | with 2.8 there will be no more bugfixes, if there are any problems, you're on your own | 12:00 |
| betabug | if you go to 2.12 or at least to 2.10 or 2.11, you're up-to-date for the next time | 12:00 |
| wreiner | i'll surely give the update a try | 12:01 |
| betabug | depends also on how much time you have to try it out | 12:01 |
| betabug | good! | 12:01 |
| wreiner | but u know - time is running out :) | 12:01 |
| betabug | first hunt for the latest versions where I've mentioned them | 12:01 |
| wreiner | k | 12:02 |
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| wreiner | hehe ZMySQLDA latest was released '1978-12-31 00:00:00' :D | 12:10 |
| betabug | haha | 12:10 |
| wreiner | early adopters :D | 12:11 |
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| Rook- | hey folks - does SOAPpy support connecting over SSL with a .pem cert/key file? I see that historically it hasn't, just wondered if it does now. | 14:47 |
| betabug | Rook-: a have a feeling that you're asking in the wrong channel | 14:48 |
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| Rook- | oh yea? I thought that soappy was part of zope | 14:50 |
| Rook- | is there a zope developers channel? | 14:51 |
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| betabug | http://pywebsvcs.sourceforge.net/soappy.txt - there is stuff like "patches for integrating into zope", so I don't think it's part of zope | 14:52 |
| betabug | hmmm, dunno if #zope3-dev is still alive | 14:52 |
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| Rook- | ah ok fair enough - thanks | 14:54 |
| betabug | np :-) | 14:54 |
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| trollfot | Hi ! | 16:24 |
| LeoRochael | trollfot: Hi Souheil | 16:25 |
| trollfot | I missed the meeting ? | 16:25 |
| LeoRochael | trollfot: if you did, I missed it too :-) | 16:26 |
| trollfot | hah :) | 16:26 |
| trollfot | hey LeoRochael :) Everything's fine ? | 16:26 |
| LeoRochael | I'm expecting it to begin in 30m | 16:26 |
| LeoRochael | trollfot: yes, for some definition of "fine" where I get this constant feeling that I'm forgetting something important | 16:27 |
| LeoRochael | trollfot: then again, I'm preparing my marriage, of the traditional "church+party+losts of guests" type | 16:28 |
| LeoRochael | so the feeling is supposed to be expected, I guess | 16:28 |
| trollfot | LeoRochael: yeah, i guess. Stressful period :) | 16:28 |
| LeoRochael | trollfot: did I tell you I'm moving to France? | 16:29 |
| trollfot | LeoRochael: to Lille ? | 16:29 |
| LeoRochael | trollfot: yep | 16:30 |
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| mcdonc | woot for daylight savings time | 16:45 |
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| * Theuni1 waves | 16:59 | |
| * Theuni1 rushed to get a coffee | 16:59 | |
| Theuni1 | s/rushed/rushes/ | 16:59 |
| mcdonc | ooh coffeee | 16:59 |
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| Theuni1 | tada | 17:02 |
| Theuni1 | alright, let's go | 17:02 |
| Theuni1 | who's alive? | 17:02 |
| * LeoRochael raises hand | 17:02 | |
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| wiggy | mostly | 17:03 |
| Theuni1 | heh | 17:03 |
| LeoRochael | trollfot was alive some time ago | 17:03 |
| trollfot | yes | 17:03 |
| Theuni1 | So, here's today's agenda again: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2010-March/039819.html | 17:03 |
| trollfot | I am | 17:03 |
| do3cc | hi | 17:04 |
| Theuni1 | I'd like to keep the test runner discussion short for today as there's work with progress, so we can let that finish. | 17:04 |
| Theuni1 | do3cc: good you're there | 17:04 |
| Theuni1 | do3cc volunteered as manager for automated build systems | 17:04 |
| trollfot | yay for do3cc | 17:04 |
| mcdonc | thank you do3cc | 17:04 |
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| Theuni1 | do3cc: i suggest that we can have a phone call or something, so I can dump my brain into yours without typing so much and you can tell me what you're up to. does that sound good? | 17:05 |
| do3cc | yes | 17:05 |
| Theuni1 | ok, cool | 17:05 |
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| do3cc | you have our number, right? | 17:05 |
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| Theuni1 | i do. | 17:05 |
| Theuni1 | tres told me he won't be around today | 17:05 |
| Theuni1 | but he contacted microsoft about the free compiler last week | 17:06 |
| Theuni1 | hasn't gotten any response so far. | 17:06 |
| Theuni1 | the foundation board meets next week, maybe we'll get a decision then, we'll see. | 17:06 |
| Theuni1 | hannosch, sidnei: i guess you'll need some time until the AMI arrives anyway, right? | 17:06 |
| hannosch | yes | 17:07 |
| Theuni1 | :) | 17:07 |
| sidnei | Theuni1, haven't had time so far | 17:07 |
| Theuni1 | no pressure. just checking whether we're in sync :) | 17:07 |
| Theuni1 | you explicitly said it's going to take time. i respect that. :) | 17:07 |
| Theuni1 | That's what I wanted to talk about WRT testing/builds. Does anyone else want to talk about anything urgent WRT testing/builds right now? | 17:08 |
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| do3cc | should the summary of buildbot status be displayed somewhere within zope.org? | 17:09 |
| do3cc | or is mail to zope-tests enough? | 17:09 |
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| Theuni1 | At some point a dashboard would be nice, but honestly I'd improve the usage of the test aggregator for now. | 17:09 |
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| mgedmin | speaking of mail to zope-tests, anybody have a buildbot configuration snippet? | 17:09 |
| Theuni1 | As hudson might come into play that issue may be resolved on various roads in the future anyway. | 17:10 |
| do3cc | mgedmin: snippet for what? | 17:10 |
| do3cc | I parse the buildbot html page for mail generation for now | 17:10 |
| mgedmin | interesting | 17:10 |
| mgedmin | buildbot itself has a MailNotifier | 17:10 |
| Theuni1 | yeah, that's what I thought we'd do | 17:10 |
| mgedmin | but the mails it sends are not what the test aggregator can currently aggregate, AFAIU | 17:10 |
| do3cc | I know, but configuring it to comply with the correct syntax for the mailing list is more work than html parsing | 17:11 |
| do3cc | the html parser can also do the same for hudson | 17:11 |
| do3cc | I generate just one mail for all buildbots we have | 17:11 |
| mgedmin | ah! cool! | 17:11 |
| Theuni1 | uh | 17:11 |
| mgedmin | we = the zope community? | 17:11 |
| Theuni1 | that actually works against the idea of the aggregation script | 17:11 |
| mgedmin | or we = the organization you work for? | 17:12 |
| Theuni1 | do3cc: multiple mails would be better | 17:12 |
| do3cc | community | 17:12 |
| do3cc | Theuni1: np | 17:12 |
| Theuni1 | otherwise the aggregator doesn't work correctly | 17:12 |
| Theuni1 | do3cc: we can discuss the technical details later | 17:12 |
| mgedmin | well, the total count will be a bit off, I suppose | 17:12 |
| do3cc | I also have implemented ignore lists so that boring builds won't bother us | 17:12 |
| do3cc | yes, no more mail aggregation talk now | 17:12 |
| * mgedmin suddenly realizes this is the middle of the weekly meeting | 17:13 | |
| Theuni1 | mgedmin: ? | 17:13 |
| mgedmin | I'll stop digressions now | 17:13 |
| Theuni1 | So, the other topic would be towards ZTK release | 17:13 |
| * Theuni1 throws a piece of chocolate towards mgedmin for good behaviour | 17:13 | |
| * mgedmin just came back from lunch a few minutes ago | 17:14 | |
| Theuni1 | We already raised three questions: | 17:14 |
| Theuni1 | - what do we need for a release? | 17:14 |
| Theuni1 | - who's the release manager? | 17:14 |
| Theuni1 | - can we ensure windows binaries? | 17:14 |
| Theuni1 | I guess the last one is overlapping with the build question that's being worked on. | 17:14 |
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| agroszer | yah, "how can we ensure windows binaries" instead of "can we ensure windows binaries" | 17:15 |
| agroszer | I guess we have to | 17:15 |
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| hannosch | windows binaries is the least of the problems. at least for 2.6 and later. that's a technical problem, we are good at solving those | 17:16 |
| Theuni1 | hannosch: right. and we already started tackling that. so let's ignore that. | 17:16 |
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| wiggy | the only real thing you need is a release manager imho | 17:17 |
| wiggy | if the tests are green you have something releaseable | 17:17 |
| Theuni1 | wiggy: almost ;) | 17:17 |
| wiggy | so you just need someone to check that and hassle people | 17:17 |
| Theuni1 | I think there were still some political/soft issues that wanted consensus. | 17:17 |
| wiggy | someone with chris's zeal for docs would be nice | 17:17 |
| Theuni1 | chris == mcdonc? | 17:18 |
| wiggy | yes | 17:18 |
| mcdonc | baijum has been doing an amazing job on docs | 17:18 |
| hannosch | well, I'd the release manager needs to talk to the consumers of the ZTK and see what they need in order to use a release | 17:18 |
| mcdonc | but he's only a man | 17:18 |
| wiggy | do we want volunteers, or do we want to nominate people? | 17:18 |
| Theuni1 | mcdonc: if you'd were a woman I'd see some serious gender mainstreaming topic coming up right now ... o_O | 17:18 |
| wiggy | perhaps people are afraid to volunteer | 17:18 |
| mcdonc | haha | 17:19 |
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| hannosch | mmh, I think it's pretty unclear what the expectations are for a ZTK release and what the job of the manager entails | 17:19 |
| Theuni1 | wiggy: well, no one can stop you form nominating people ;) | 17:20 |
| Theuni1 | s/form/from/ | 17:20 |
| Theuni1 | hannosch: right. i think we might want to gather some high level goals for the release | 17:20 |
| wiggy | and what the powers of a release manager are | 17:20 |
| wiggy | a one-man steering commitee? | 17:20 |
| wiggy | something else? | 17:20 |
| Theuni1 | hehe | 17:21 |
| hannosch | but I'd be willing to say we call for volunteers and give the chosen release manager a lot of dictator power over the first release | 17:21 |
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| wiggy | amen | 17:21 |
| hannosch | there's so many bikeshed issues we won't get anywhere with general community input | 17:21 |
| Theuni1 | hmm | 17:22 |
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| Theuni1 | the word power makes me flinch | 17:22 |
| agroszer | +1, some Guido-ish person needs to be there | 17:22 |
| wiggy | without power it's impossible to get anything done | 17:22 |
| wiggy | nothing will happen except never-ending discussion | 17:23 |
| wiggy | ie what we have now | 17:23 |
| Theuni1 | i think power alone isn't the issue. | 17:23 |
| mcdonc | its a tricky thing because it ideally would be a person that uses all of ( bluebream/zope3 | zope2 | grok ) in anger | 17:23 |
| hannosch | I think the risk is pretty low. if we get an unusable first ZTK release, so what? people don't have to use it | 17:23 |
| Theuni1 | i think if we assign power, we also need to assign goals. | 17:23 |
| mcdonc | there arent many of those people | 17:23 |
| wiggy | you need power to battle stop energy | 17:24 |
| wiggy | mcdonc: none I'ld guess | 17:24 |
| Theuni1 | and do stop battle energy ;) | 17:24 |
| Theuni1 | s/do/to/ | 17:24 |
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| Theuni1 | mcdonc: right. initially we tried to get a mixture with that representation for the steering group. | 17:24 |
| mcdonc | makes sense | 17:25 |
| Theuni1 | Didn't work out though ;) | 17:25 |
| Theuni1 | How about a temporary poll: who's at least slightly positive about getting a single volunteer for the release manager? | 17:26 |
| hannosch | +1 | 17:26 |
| Theuni1 | +1 | 17:26 |
| do3cc | +1 | 17:26 |
| mcdonc | _1 | 17:26 |
| trollfot | +1 | 17:26 |
| sawdog | +1 | 17:26 |
| mcdonc | +1 rather | 17:26 |
| agroszer | +1 | 17:26 |
| sawdog | can I vote? | 17:26 |
| sawdog | :p | 17:27 |
| baijum | -0 | 17:27 |
| Theuni1 | sawdog: sure | 17:27 |
| LeoRochael | +1 | 17:27 |
| Theuni1 | interesting | 17:27 |
| agroszer | or worst case assign a deputy | 17:27 |
| wiggy | +1 | 17:27 |
| Theuni1 | baijum: when you say -0, why's that? | 17:27 |
| trollfot | it could be +0, I guess :p | 17:27 |
| Theuni1 | agroszer: what's a deputy? | 17:28 |
| agroszer | I mean a second person, who follows all steps, and can take over if the first one is not available for longer | 17:28 |
| baijum | Theuni1: even if a ZTK 1.0 is not release, Grok, BB & Zope 2 will release based on some ZTK svn revision .. I just just going to happen | 17:28 |
| baijum | *realesed | 17:28 |
| Theuni1 | baijum: so you're saying the release itself isn't that important to you? | 17:28 |
| Theuni1 | agroszer: ah, i see | 17:28 |
| baijum | Theuni1: yes | 17:29 |
| Theuni1 | baijum: i see. different question ;) | 17:29 |
| Theuni1 | Ok | 17:29 |
| mcdonc | who here is a ztk release important for? | 17:29 |
| mcdonc | (directly) | 17:29 |
| * Theuni1 + the other gocept guys | 17:29 | |
| Theuni1 | mcdonc: i think the "directly" qualification is ambiguous/confusing | 17:30 |
| baijum | Zope 2 only care about few packages in ZTK, Grok little more and BB is the only one use the whole..but that's going to change after 1.0 release | 17:30 |
| wiggy | ztk releases might be useful as 'coordination/compatibility' points, but they would require a release schedule that is somewhat in line with the ztk consumers and their requirements | 17:30 |
| mcdonc | i guess i meant who really really wants a ztk release | 17:30 |
| wiggy | ie if for every zope2 release there are 5 ztk releases in between - that isn't very useful | 17:30 |
| do3cc | mcdonc: as an alternative to what? | 17:31 |
| trollfot | baijum: grok relies on more than a few ztk packages | 17:31 |
| mcdonc | as opposed to idly thinking "that might be a good idea" | 17:31 |
| LeoRochael | wiggy: might not be helpful, but how does it hurt? | 17:31 |
| mcdonc | do3cc: as an alternative to each framework choosing its own versions of what's currently in the ztk | 17:31 |
| wiggy | LeoRochael: there isn't much point in a release if everybody is on a different release | 17:31 |
| hannosch | If I want to use Grok in Zope2 / Plone, I'd really like there to be a ZTK release underlying both of them | 17:31 |
| wiggy | so you get nothing from using a release instead of a svn revision | 17:31 |
| mcdonc | hannosch: good point | 17:32 |
| Theuni1 | Ok. Time's up for today, so the log will stop around here. | 17:32 |
| wiggy | 30 minutes are up | 17:32 |
| Theuni1 | Just a quick summary here: we do look for a volunteer? | 17:32 |
| hannosch | I think we are tired of talk and generally in favor of actions :) | 17:32 |
| agroszer | a proper ZTK release would make life easier for all dependents | 17:33 |
| Theuni1 | alright. i'll take the as the summary | 17:33 |
| * wiggy nominates hanno | 17:33 | |
| Theuni1 | haha | 17:33 |
| hannosch | nooooo :) | 17:33 |
| LeoRochael | yes, but it also look like we still have questions about what the ZTK is actually good for | 17:33 |
| Theuni1 | LeoRochael: this question was not for introducing more "but"s ;) | 17:33 |
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| Theuni1 | anyway, i'll take that over to the mailing list | 17:33 |
| hannosch | wiggy: I'm already the most likeliest candidate for that Zope2 release manager position ... don't need more titles :) | 17:33 |
| Theuni1 | thanks for joining today and keep discussing if you wanna stay around | 17:34 |
| mcdonc | thanks Theuni1 | 17:34 |
| Theuni1 | mcdonc: no worries :) | 17:34 |
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| do3cc | Theuni1: when do you want to call? | 17:35 |
| do3cc | mgedmin: you had some comments regarding mail | 17:35 |
| Theuni1 | we can have a quick chat in a few minutes when i'm done writing the summary | 17:36 |
| Theuni1 | otherwise i'd suggest thursday | 17:36 |
| do3cc | ok | 17:36 |
| do3cc | every day is as bad as the next one | 17:36 |
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| mgedmin | do3cc, questions rather than comments | 17:37 |
| do3cc | mgedmin: btw. If you do not mind, I parse your buildbot even with a robots.txt prohibiting it | 17:38 |
| mgedmin | specifically, as the overseer of one of the buildbots (Zope 3.4 KGS), is there something simple I could do? | 17:38 |
| mgedmin | study buildbot sources & handcraft a custom MailNotifier to send emails in a format acceptable for zope-tests@ is too much effort for me, currently | 17:38 |
| do3cc | I also see no value in that | 17:39 |
| mgedmin | copy and paste 15 lines of code into my master.cfg so I can send properly formatted MailNotifier emails to ... == just the right amount of effort | 17:39 |
| mgedmin | that's provided somebody figured out the magic 15 lines | 17:39 |
| * baijum think no test should fail in ZTK trunk, may be we need to adopt the (lengthy?) workflow suggested by Jim | 17:39 | |
| mgedmin | also, Zope 3.4 KGS = practically nothing ever changes, so value of emails is low | 17:39 |
| mgedmin | except that on Saturday the KGS broke because of the broken zope.testing release, which was useful | 17:40 |
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| do3cc | the mails are only sent to tests list | 17:40 |
| mgedmin | well, my buildbot sends its mails to me | 17:40 |
| do3cc | from there another script generates a single mail to the developers list | 17:40 |
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| do3cc | so there is not much noise anyway | 17:40 |
| do3cc | I would be more interested in mail notifications of the developers who broke the build | 17:41 |
| mgedmin | what are you saying then? just send mails there, without worrying about the aggregator script? | 17:41 |
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| hever | Hello I'm searching in plone smart folders and going to find all except "not_listed" for example "a* -"not_listed"" works but instead of a* I'm just going to use * but that seems not possible. Does somebody have an idea how to realize this simple search ? | 17:41 |
| kittonian | sm: you around? | 17:41 |
| do3cc | No, the zope-tests list needs the special crafted mails already | 17:41 |
| mgedmin | as a developer I would be most interested in emails like "ZTK broke, here's a link you can click to see the traceback" | 17:41 |
| kittonian | the traffic was getting way too heavy on that site i just built so we had to move it all over to a co-located server | 17:41 |
| kittonian | so i just installed zope but i'm having some issue with permissions for some reason | 17:42 |
| do3cc | mgedmin: have a look at your inbox | 17:42 |
| kittonian | i got all the products up and working and zope is up and running, however even though i can login as me to the ZMI i cannot login as the zopeadmin user or the user admin (both of which are in the acl_users folder. it's also treating my login as special_user/anonymous for some reason | 17:43 |
| kittonian | and even though it'll show me the error_log it's constantly saying i don't have permission to access this resource | 17:43 |
| mgedmin | do3cc, yes, currently the aggregator does exactly that for zope 2 tests | 17:43 |
| do3cc | I also have links to the builders | 17:44 |
| mgedmin | or did you mean my other inbox? | 17:44 |
| do3cc | i just sent a mail to .as | 17:44 |
| do3cc | OK: Community Buildbots Summary | 17:44 |
| mgedmin | I'll see it as soon as the greylister lets it through | 17:44 |
| do3cc | :-) | 17:44 |
| mgedmin | email is not real-time... | 17:44 |
| do3cc | heh, nice idea to train customers to use bug trackers | 17:45 |
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| hever | Has zope a text search wildcard that gets all? * doesn't work, you have to use somehting like a* b* c* d* ... | 17:52 |
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| kittonian | can anyone give me a hand with this permission situation? | 18:04 |
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| kittonian | ok, i've narrowed it down to a safari problem apparently | 19:25 |
| kittonian | i can login and it works just fine using firefox but not safari. safari has always worked before but now i'm using zope 2.11.4 and it won't pass the proper authentication headers when i login to the zmi | 19:26 |
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| kittonian | ok, this is really crazy. apparently with zope 2.10.x safari will auth without issue but with 2.11.x it won't | 20:06 |
| kittonian | can anyone help me solve this? | 20:06 |
| kittonian | it lets me in the zmi just fine but logs unauthorized errors with every keystroke | 20:06 |
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| kittonian | FF works without issue | 20:11 |
| kittonian | i did a google search and apparently i'm not the only one having this issue, however i can't seem to find a solution | 20:11 |
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| kittonian | grrrrrr, i just installed 2.10.9 and it's doing the same exact thing | 20:25 |
| kittonian | what the hell? | 20:25 |
| trollfot | kittonian: i've experienced that | 20:26 |
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| kittonian | how do i resolve it? | 20:26 |
| kittonian | i have to be able to use safari and this was not occuring on my other server | 20:26 |
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| trollfot | kittonian: I don't know. It's on all recent zope and ZTK. I don't use safari, but my customers have had the problems | 20:28 |
| kittonian | which means i have to go back to zope 2.10.1 which is what was working on the other server | 20:29 |
| kittonian | what is the latest version you are running? | 20:30 |
| trollfot | i'm not running zope2, i'm using ZTK on my own CMS. So, it must be a version of zope.login and/or zope.authentication | 20:30 |
| kittonian | neither of those exist | 20:31 |
| trollfot | ? | 20:32 |
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| kittonian | neither zope.login nor zope.authentication exist | 20:34 |
| kittonian | there is an authentication dir in $ZOPEHOME/lib/python/zope/app/authentication | 20:35 |
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| kittonian | well, if none of the newer zope releases support safari then i guess i have no choice but to go back to an older release instead | 20:42 |
| kittonian | i just have to wonder if it's a zope thing or a python version thing | 20:44 |
| kittonian | on the old server i'm running 2.10.1 and python 2.4.4 | 20:44 |
| kittonian | on this new server i tried 2.10.9 but used python 2.4.6 | 20:44 |
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| magcius | I'm getting a weird version when using z.i without C extensions: http://pastie.org/872595 | 21:33 |
| magcius | weird error, that is | 21:34 |
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| TresEquis | magcius: that is an error in your code | 21:40 |
| TresEquis | __getattr__ is supposed to raise AttributeError on failure, not KeyError | 21:40 |
| TresEquis | you need to do something like: | 21:41 |
| TresEquis | result = self._FIELDS.get(name, default=_marker) | 21:42 |
| TresEquis | if result is _marker: | 21:42 |
| TresEquis | raise AttributeError | 21:42 |
| TresEquis | return result | 21:42 |
| TresEquis | where marker is a global, e.g.: | 21:42 |
| TresEquis | _marker = object() | 21:42 |
| magcius | TresEquis: alright | 21:43 |
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| kittonian | ok, forgetting about the whole safari issue, i at least want to make sure things are up and running for right now but i can't for the life of me get apache to serve up anything when trying to access a URL that should be rewritten to be served by zope | 22:25 |
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| kittonian | it's not showing me a 404, error page, or anything. the browser just hangs at "connecting to www.blah.com" | 22:26 |
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| kittonian | i've seemingly got the right directory stuff in the httpd-vhosts.conf file and i made sure that mod_fastcgi is installed | 22:27 |
| kittonian | both mod_rewrite.h and mod_proxy.h exist in the apache2 include directory | 22:28 |
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| kittonian | nevermind. no need for fastcgi. | 22:39 |
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