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| TKtrundle | hi can you look at this error im getting please. I have lxml installed and can import it fine in the python interpreter. http://pastebin.com/CXLU66yu | 00:30 |
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| TresEquis | TKtrundle: are you running inside a buildout? | 00:54 |
| TresEquis | If so, you need to make sure the lxml egg is added to the "part" which sets up the Zope instance | 00:55 |
| TKtrundle | TresEquis: Hey Im not running buildout is there an config file for zope to add python modules? | 01:04 |
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| TresEquis | see the 'paths' section in your zope.conf | 01:08 |
| TresEquis | and double check that your Zope instance is really using the same python where you verified that lxml was installed | 01:08 |
| TresEquis | the default location for third-party libs in "old" zope was $INSTANCE_HOME/lib/python | 01:09 |
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| matleh | any buildout experts here? | 13:52 |
| matleh | I have a question: when I specify find-links, are the versions from there preferred over the ones from the index? | 13:53 |
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| matleh | I specified the zope3.4 find-links page in my buildout, but I get newer versions anyway | 14:01 |
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| TresEquis | matleh: no | 14:04 |
| TresEquis | they just get added to the set to be evaluated against any constraints | 14:04 |
| TresEquis | if they are newer, usually, then they win | 14:04 |
| TresEquis | what index are you using? | 14:04 |
| TresEquis | PyPI? | 14:04 |
| TresEquis | generally I would avoid find-links and use the KGS versions.cfg for buildout | 14:04 |
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| matleh | Ah, OK | 14:05 |
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| matleh | why avoid find-links? | 14:05 |
| matleh | I tried the KGS index, but this didn't seem to work | 14:05 |
| matleh | when I specifiy [buildout]index=<KGS-index-url>, than only this index is queried an not PyPI, right? | 14:07 |
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| matleh | when I use the zope3.4 KGS index, buildout complains, that it can't find zope.i18n==3.4.0, even though this version is linked in the KGS index | 14:10 |
| matleh | am I still doing something wrong? | 14:11 |
| matleh | Hmm, it works when I disable the shared egg-directory | 14:17 |
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| matleh | hmm, it did for my test, but doesn't for the real thing :( | 14:35 |
| betabug | that's why I avoid testing stuff | 14:39 |
| betabug | if you hadn't tested it, you would have known right away that it doesn't work | 14:39 |
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| matleh | betabug: are you talking with me? | 14:56 |
| betabug | more like "kidding with you" :-) | 14:59 |
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| do3cc | shouldnt I be able to call attributes of a browser view with an url if I define them in zcml in the allowed_attributes? | 15:58 |
| TresEquis | do3cc: Zope3? | 16:00 |
| TresEquis | If methods, they still need to have docstrings | 16:00 |
| do3cc | no 2.12 | 16:00 |
| TresEquis | in Zope2 | 16:01 |
| do3cc | Im checking but I believe they have, thats not my code that fails | 16:01 |
| do3cc | yes thats not it | 16:01 |
| TresEquis | generally speaking, allowed_attributes grants templates the right to use them | 16:02 |
| TresEquis | but addressing them via URL may require extra hoops | 16:02 |
| do3cc | what I saw from stepping through with the debugger, that Products.Five.metaconfigure.ViewMixinForTemplates nowadays implements a publishTraverse that does not check for attributes. 2.10 did not implement that | 16:02 |
| do3cc | I believe that worked in 2.10 | 16:03 |
| TresEquis | like declaring Z2-style permissions, initializing the class, ensuring a docstring, etc. | 16:03 |
| do3cc | but I did not find a clear documentation of what allowed_attributes should actually allow | 16:03 |
| TresEquis | it sounds like you might want to check out <browser:views>? | 16:04 |
| do3cc | maybe, not sure yet | 16:05 |
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| do3cc | that code does funny things. The view is not registered for the object, there is a custom adapter returning the view, on which the publisher tries to get the attribute | 16:06 |
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| do3cc | as I don't know that it is supposed to be possible to call that attribute with an url call, I don't actually know who is wrong | 16:06 |
| TresEquis | from the Z3 perspective, if if doesn't have its own view registration, it isn't supposed to be URL-addressible | 16:07 |
| do3cc | it has | 16:07 |
| TresEquis | I mean the attribute | 16:08 |
| TresEquis | (method, really) | 16:08 |
| do3cc | ahh | 16:08 |
| do3cc | so It might be that the package used a feature that was actually a bug | 16:08 |
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| TresEquis | it could be that some historical mix of Five allowed it, due to interactions with classic Boboisms | 16:08 |
| TresEquis | I think I might just add more <browser:view> declarations (one per addressible method) | 16:09 |
| TresEquis | you can spell the attribute name inside <browser:view>, I think | 16:09 |
| do3cc | thats what happening | 16:09 |
| TresEquis | not the allowed_attributes | 16:10 |
| TresEquis | more like: <browser:view for="*" factory="my.module.MyView" attribute="method_name" /> | 16:10 |
| TresEquis | incomplete -- needs name="something", etc. | 16:11 |
| TresEquis | that will cause the new view to call your method, instead of __call__ | 16:11 |
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| do3cc | the original author just added more actions to a view, the page is also __call__ ed | 16:12 |
| do3cc | I think the author really used a loophole that got closed | 16:14 |
| do3cc | but now I am even more confused of allowed_attributes | 16:18 |
| do3cc | I can access all attributes of a view in tales expressions | 16:18 |
| do3cc | what is allowed_attributes actually used for? | 16:18 |
| TresEquis | In Z3, you can't use any view attributes which aren't listed there | 16:18 |
| TresEquis | Z2 is likely operating more loosely | 16:19 |
| do3cc | but methods I can | 16:19 |
| TresEquis | because it doesn't use the Z3 spacesuits | 16:19 |
| TresEquis | aka "security proxies" | 16:19 |
| do3cc | I never had the need to access attributes of browser view classes in TALES, and methods I can call without such restriction | 16:21 |
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| LeoRochael | I have buildouts with versions extending the Zope 2.12 version pins, that are breaking left and right because bootstrap picks up zc.buildout 1.5.0b1 instead of 1.4.3 | 18:59 |
| LeoRochael | and then buildout cannot downgrade itself | 19:00 |
| LeoRochael | despite being pinned to 1.4.3 on the Zope 2.12 versions list | 19:00 |
| LeoRochael | what workarounds are people using? | 19:00 |
| LeoRochael | I guess I'll just have to pass -v to boostrap.py | 19:07 |
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| TresEquis | LeoRochael: see the distutils-sig this morning | 19:31 |
| LeoRochael | TresEquis: thanks, Tres | 19:32 |
| LeoRochael | looks like it's long past time I subscribed to that list, even if in digest mode | 19:32 |
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| __gotcha | zc.buildout bootstrap.py does not work for me anymore... | 22:41 |
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| __gotcha | I think it is related with the release of buildout 1.5.0b1 | 22:41 |
| __gotcha | Has someone else seen the problem ? | 22:41 |
| __gotcha | or just a coincidence ? | 22:42 |
| TresEquis | __gotcha: not a coincidence | 22:42 |
| TresEquis | gary_poster is working on unscrewing it today | 22:43 |
| __gotcha | any workaround in the meanwhile ? | 22:43 |
| LeoRochael | __gotcha: quick workaround: python bootstrap.py -v 1.4.3 | 22:43 |
| __gotcha | thnks | 22:43 |
| LeoRochael | __gotcha: put you have to pin your zc.buildout version | 22:43 |
| LeoRochael | __gotcha: otherwise buildout will try to update it | 22:44 |
| __gotcha | LeoRochael: iow, it must be told twice ? | 22:44 |
| LeoRochael | __gotcha: unfortunately, yes | 22:44 |
| __gotcha | does work for me :-) | 22:44 |
| __gotcha | thx | 22:44 |
| __gotcha | I felt bad : I was about to release a new version of zope.schema | 22:45 |
| __gotcha | than realized I had not run the tests in isolation ;-) | 22:45 |
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