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| planetzopebot | 15th June, 2010 Weekly Zope Dev IRC Meeting (Weekly Zope Development Meeting) http://www.ozzope.org/weekly-zope-dev-meeting/15th-june-2010-weekly-zope-dev-irc-meeting | 06:04 |
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| CIA-94 | wosc * r113757 gocept.registration/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Preparing release 0.3.0 | 16:19 |
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| CIA-94 | wosc * r113759 gocept.registration/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Back to development: 0.3.1 | 16:19 |
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| CIA-94 | yuppie * r113760 Zope/src/ZPublisher/tests/testHTTPResponse.py: - added at least one unit test for the 'exception' method | 16:32 |
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| CIA-94 | yuppie * r113761 Zope/src/ZPublisher/ (HTTPResponse.py tests/testHTTPResponse.py): - small refactoring for better readability: moved some code in separate _setBCIHeaders method | 16:48 |
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| CIA-94 | yuppie * r113762 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst src/ZPublisher/__init__.py): - removed 'Main' and 'Zope' wrappers for Test.publish | 17:03 |
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| dataflake | hehe | 17:52 |
| CIA-94 | tseaver * r113763 AccessControl/src/AccessControl/ZopeGuards.py: Use a context manager, since we are Python >= 2.6.x. | 17:53 |
| Charlie_X | shutup CIA-94 | 17:53 |
| dataflake | looks like tres has better stuff to do | 17:53 |
| Theuni1 | hehe | 17:54 |
| Charlie_X | Looks like he's readying the demise of Python 2.5 and Python 2.4. | 17:54 |
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| dataflake | fine by me | 17:54 |
| mgedmin | awakr, the web 2.0 solution | 17:54 |
| Charlie_X | mgedmin: Indeed. Somehow my mistyping is much worse on IRC. | 17:55 |
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| dataflake | this must be important :-) | 17:56 |
| dataflake | hi alan | 17:57 |
| * Charlie_X puts on his "Bicycle Toolkit Badge" | 17:58 | |
| dataflake | do I get a badge, too? | 17:58 |
| Charlie_X | Sure. | 17:58 |
| Charlie_X | Let's see what I've got... | 17:59 |
| dataflake | the Zope2 badge | 17:59 |
| Charlie_X | That's all rusty | 17:59 |
| Charlie_X | And covered in Plone goo. | 17:59 |
| dataflake | for the purpose of this meeting only | 17:59 |
| Theuni1 | heh | 18:00 |
| Theuni1 | hmm | 18:00 |
| Theuni1 | something's wrong with the online docs | 18:00 |
| Theuni1 | http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100621.html | 18:00 |
| Theuni1 | well it isn't. chrome is caching aggressively | 18:01 |
| Theuni1 | let's roll | 18:01 |
| Charlie_X | Wrong date | 18:01 |
| Theuni1 | dang. you're right. i'll update that. | 18:01 |
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| Theuni1 | The bug tracker monitoring is in place now and I've updated it to include project group or project names in the subject which will happen from tonight. Any other questions/ideas about this? | 18:01 |
| dataflake | sounds good | 18:02 |
| d2m_ | hi TresEquis, there is a small problem on zope.org regarding display of release dates of software packages | 18:02 |
| Theuni1 | As a side note: I was wondering to make the aggregator script produce an HTML dashboard at some point. I keep getting lost having the reports getting longer. | 18:03 |
| d2m_ | oh, sorry - is there a meeting going on atm? | 18:03 |
| Theuni1 | jup :) | 18:03 |
| d2m_ | k, will ask later | 18:03 |
| planetzopebot | isotoma.recipe.plonetools 0.0.6 (PyPI recent updates) http://pypi.python.org/pypi/isotoma.recipe.plonetools/0.0.6 | 18:04 |
| TresEquis | Theuni1: your patch for that was better than my uncommitted one | 18:04 |
| Theuni1 | heh | 18:04 |
| Theuni1 | what was better about it? | 18:05 |
| Charlie_X | Theuni1: I haven't actually done any work with the bug monitor but am happy to help extending it. | 18:05 |
| TresEquis | mine was more complicated | 18:05 |
| CIA-94 | tseaver * r113764 zope.bugchecker/ (LICENSE.txt COPYRIGHT.txt): Conform to repository policy. | 18:05 |
| CIA-94 | tseaver * r113765 zope.bugchecker/src/zope/bugchecker/bugchecker.py: | 18:05 |
| CIA-94 | Add option to set SMTP port. | 18:05 |
| CIA-94 | Add short option flags for --mail-from, --mail-to. | 18:05 |
| Theuni1 | k | 18:05 |
| Theuni1 | and more options in there | 18:05 |
| Theuni1 | :) | 18:05 |
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| Theuni1 | ok, i think that's enough about the bug checker for the moment. | 18:05 |
| Theuni1 | for now, i'll try not adding more data to the aggregator but get the failures down to zero | 18:06 |
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| Theuni1 | we need to aim for green bar again | 18:06 |
| Theuni1 | otherwise the checks become worthless | 18:06 |
| TresEquis | the languishing bugs check might need to run less often | 18:07 |
| TresEquis | because we aren't going to get that one to zaroo any time soon | 18:07 |
| Theuni1 | hmm | 18:07 |
| dataflake | yup | 18:07 |
| Theuni1 | true | 18:07 |
| TresEquis | once a week, maybe? | 18:08 |
| dataflake | not for a long time | 18:08 |
| Theuni1 | fine by me | 18:08 |
| dataflake | ok | 18:08 |
| Theuni1 | if we clear them at some point, I'd crank them up again | 18:08 |
| Theuni1 | otherwise we'd have a latency of up to 21 days | 18:08 |
| Theuni1 | instead of the 14 we're aiming for right now | 18:08 |
| TresEquis | sure | 18:08 |
| TresEquis | even something like monday and friday would work | 18:09 |
| Theuni1 | done | 18:09 |
| Theuni1 | i'm running them sunday night now | 18:09 |
| TresEquis | cool | 18:09 |
| Theuni1 | sunday to monday | 18:09 |
| TresEquis | shorten the interval to 7 days, maybe? | 18:09 |
| dataflake | start the work week off right... | 18:10 |
| Theuni1 | TresEquis: yeah, that would hide the lateny | 18:10 |
| Theuni1 | anyway, that's optimization on a level we don't really need right now ;) | 18:10 |
| Theuni1 | documentation | 18:10 |
| TresEquis | I have landed the changes I proposed in zope.event trunk | 18:11 |
| TresEquis | and have most of the work done on https://code.launchpad.net/~tseaver/zope.interface/better_unittests | 18:11 |
| TresEquis | but got stalled | 18:11 |
| dataflake | that was a while ago | 18:11 |
| TresEquis | I would like to see each ZTK package have its docs converted similarly | 18:12 |
| TresEquis | and findable under http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkig | 18:12 |
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| TresEquis | oops, s/kig/kit/ | 18:12 |
| TresEquis | is this topic about some other docs consolidation? | 18:13 |
| Theuni1 | ok, so going through the ZTK packages is one thing, for that we can create a bug in launchpad and track status there | 18:13 |
| Theuni1 | TresEquis: yes. the minutes from the beginning of the month mentioned the wikis | 18:13 |
| Theuni1 | otherwise it was kind of open ended what "floating" documentation covers. | 18:14 |
| TresEquis | first people have to find the links to candidate docs | 18:14 |
| TresEquis | then editors need to evaluate and update them while landing in Sphinx form | 18:15 |
| TresEquis | that would be a good sprint focus | 18:15 |
| TresEquis | hard to do piecemeal | 18:15 |
| Theuni1 | right | 18:15 |
| Theuni1 | i'll try baking that into a blueprint | 18:15 |
| Theuni1 | what's the issue with the integration of docs into zopetoolkit? is that the intersphinx thing? | 18:16 |
| dataflake | It could even be links from a static page | 18:17 |
| TresEquis | mostly just figuring out where in URL space they should be placed | 18:17 |
| dataflake | for starters | 18:17 |
| TresEquis | yup | 18:17 |
| Theuni1 | so that docs.zope.org/... could list them directly, too | 18:17 |
| TresEquis | intersphinx is about making cross-links resolve from one Sphinx docset to another | 18:18 |
| Theuni1 | ah | 18:18 |
| dataflake | they could be docs.Zope.org/PACKAGE | 18:18 |
| TresEquis | sounds good to me | 18:18 |
| dataflake | or packages.python.org/PACKAGE | 18:18 |
| TresEquis | the UI for uploading them there is tricky -- I always have a hard time finding it | 18:19 |
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| dataflake | There's a setup tools extension | 18:19 |
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| dataflake | Does it from the command line | 18:19 |
| TresEquis | I like the idea of keeping them in sync at SVN checkins, though | 18:19 |
| Theuni1 | yeah | 18:19 |
| dataflake | right | 18:20 |
| Theuni1 | ok, let's wrap this up. | 18:20 |
| Theuni1 | - create a bug for every ZTK project to convert the docs similar to zope.event | 18:21 |
| Theuni1 | - add a blueprint for a sprint task to review floating documentation for wikis, to edit and integrate it into sphinx docs | 18:21 |
| Theuni1 | - establish routine for getting current svn-based docs delivered to docs.zope.org/package | 18:22 |
| Theuni1 | i'll do the first two, anyone one up for the last? | 18:22 |
| dataflake | sounds good | 18:22 |
| dataflake | I can do the last | 18:22 |
| * mgedmin wonders if you can teach 'python sdist register upload' to upload the docs too | 18:22 | |
| dataflake | it's mostly automated | 18:23 |
| TresEquis | mgedmin: there is an extension which adds an 'upload_docs' command, or some such | 18:23 |
| fdrake | distutils2 will have an upload_docs command that takes care of uploading docs to packages.python.org. | 18:24 |
| TresEquis | I don't recall where it lives, though | 18:24 |
| Theuni1 | last issue | 18:24 |
| Theuni1 | bug day | 18:24 |
| Theuni1 | any notes WRT the last bug day? | 18:24 |
| dataflake | how did you like the feedback? | 18:24 |
| TresEquis | I updated the wiki page with stuff from people's e-mailed reports | 18:24 |
| dataflake | TresEquis: URL? | 18:25 |
| * Charlie_X felt guilty 'cos he couldn't join in. | 18:25 | |
| Charlie_X | I liked the feedback. Gave the whole thing a bit more volume. | 18:25 |
| Theuni1 | dataflake: i liked it, i wonder how others liked it :) | 18:25 |
| TresEquis | http://wiki.zope.org/ztk/BugDay20100616 | 18:25 |
| dataflake | Thanks! | 18:26 |
| Theuni1 | TresEquis: cool. some formatting issues seem to break the layout a bit | 18:26 |
| Theuni1 | Charlie_X: good to hear and yes, i was missing you *hug* | 18:26 |
| dataflake | LOL | 18:26 |
| dataflake | awww | 18:27 |
| Theuni1 | *g | 18:27 |
| Theuni1 | any notes for the next bugday? | 18:27 |
| Charlie_X | Yes, it's going to be dangerously close to Europython | 18:28 |
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| dataflake | So? | 18:28 |
| dataflake | :-) | 18:28 |
| Theuni1 | i'd schedule it in the week of july 18 | 18:28 |
| Theuni1 | july 12-18 | 18:28 |
| Theuni1 | (i'll doodle that as the last time) | 18:29 |
| dataflake | ok | 18:29 |
| dataflake | thanks | 18:29 |
| Theuni1 | i'll send a short note to the list with the doodle and a pointer to the report from last time on the wiki page | 18:29 |
| Theuni1 | i think that's it for today | 18:29 |
| Charlie_X | I can't do the 13th as that's when I'm flying over. However, due to a miracle of timing my parents are actually missing while I'm over. | 18:29 |
| dataflake | well, tell it to the doodle ;-) | 18:30 |
| TresEquis | time | 18:30 |
| Theuni1 | hehe | 18:31 |
| Theuni1 | indeed | 18:31 |
| Theuni1 | enjoy the rest of your day! :) | 18:31 |
| Theuni1 | over and out | 18:31 |
| dataflake | you too | 18:31 |
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| dataflake | doing this on an iPad has a bit of suck to it. | 18:32 |
| Charlie_X | Fanboi | 18:33 |
| TresEquis | you kids get off my grass | 18:33 |
| dataflake | fashion victim | 18:33 |
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| dataflake | I like it as a book reader, though | 18:34 |
| Charlie_X | I want a Que for that. | 18:36 |
| Charlie_X | And I'm struggling not to go out and buy a new phone. | 18:36 |
| Charlie_X | TresEquis: why should smoke it all yourself? | 18:36 |
| dataflake | I did not struggle. I ordered. | 18:36 |
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| dataflake | hey dan | 18:37 |
| Charlie_X | Ah, the joys of instant gratification | 18:37 |
| dataflake | You bet | 18:37 |
| * Charlie_X is currently struggling to register a BFG for Froscon. | 18:38 | |
| dataflake | well, I'm off. See ya! | 18:40 |
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| TresEquis | Charlie_X: you don't think you'll have trouble getting the BFG through airport security? | 18:41 |
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| Charlie_X | hehe | 18:42 |
| Charlie_X | TresEquis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS2cwkWYfGo | 18:43 |
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| CIA-94 | yuppie * r113766 Products.ZCTextIndex/src: - ignore egg-info | 19:32 |
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| fdrake | This looks like the upload_docs extension that got mentioned earlier: http://bitbucket.org/brosner/sphinx-pypi-upload | 19:41 |
| Charlie_X | fdrake: maybe post that to the ML when Theuni1 does the summary? | 19:46 |
| fdrake | yep | 19:46 |
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| tmassman | hi | 20:54 |
| tmassman | is it possible to define permissions on fields in schemas? | 20:54 |
| tmassman | with z3c.form | 20:55 |
| Charlie_X | Fields don't have any concept of permissions. | 20:58 |
| tmassman | so i have to implement it by myself | 20:58 |
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| Charlie_X | But you could probably hack your form rendering to allow for it. | 20:59 |
| Charlie_X | What's the use case? | 20:59 |
| tmassman | we have a couple of content types with a bunch of fields | 21:00 |
| tmassman | not every field is available in every content type | 21:00 |
| tmassman | and we have different user types with different permissions (roles) | 21:01 |
| tmassman | the owner can access all fields | 21:01 |
| Charlie_X | ah, sort of like a bug tracker screen? | 21:01 |
| tmassman | one role an read some fields and another can read more fields | 21:01 |
| tmassman | hmm, kind of | 21:02 |
| tmassman | all fields are grouped | 21:03 |
| Charlie_X | Easiest thing is probably to iterate over the interface. | 21:03 |
| tmassman | and the fields are defined in fieldset classes | 21:03 |
| tmassman | the content types all have the same groups, but not all fields are available in all content types | 21:04 |
| Charlie_X | That sounds a bit messy. | 21:04 |
| tmassman | ^^ | 21:04 |
| Charlie_X | Well, it is easy enough to check permissions on the fly. | 21:05 |
| tmassman | if i have about 60 fields per content type, and nearly 80% of the fields are the same, i don't want to define the fields in different schemas | 21:05 |
| Charlie_X | Checking for fields is a lot clumsier. | 21:05 |
| tmassman | yepp | 21:06 |
| Charlie_X | Subclassing interfaces is a breeze and the way to go. | 21:06 |
| tmassman | i found this one: http://zope3.mpg.de/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Zope/PerMission | 21:07 |
| tmassman | in german | 21:07 |
| Charlie_X | No problem for me | 21:07 |
| tmassman | :) | 21:07 |
| fdrake | tmassman: Normally you can associate permissions with attributes of classes in ZCML; the form libraries pick that up. | 21:07 |
| fdrake | Not sure z3m.form does that, since I've no experience with that particular library. | 21:08 |
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| tmassman | ok, i'll check the z3c.form documentation | 21:09 |
| tmassman | thx | 21:09 |
| Charlie_X | That wiki article covers setting permissions on class attributes as fdrake says. | 21:10 |
| Charlie_X | As schemas are implemented as interfaces I don't think permissions are relevant to them. | 21:11 |
| fdrake | It's really a lower-level feature than forms. | 21:11 |
| fdrake | Right. | 21:11 |
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| fdrake | Forms just reflect the permissions set for attributes. | 21:11 |
| Charlie_X | I've never seen that check done in anger but then I haven't set any attribute permissions. | 21:12 |
| Charlie_X | Abusing an interface for convenience (promising an attribute you don't provide) is, however, asking for trouble. | 21:13 |
| tmassman | just checking the dexterity developer manual - there it is possible to set read and write permissions | 21:14 |
| tmassman | we are not working with dexterity/plone, so maybe we will implenet that feature by our own | 21:15 |
| Charlie_X | The simplest thing to do is to try setting the attribute permissions and seeing if z3c.form responds to that. But I highly recommend you clean up your schemas. | 21:16 |
| tmassman | well, the schemas are as minimal as possible | 21:18 |
| tmassman | and no field is defined twice | 21:18 |
| Charlie_X | Yes, but because you're schemas don't match your objects you risking adaptation errors. | 21:20 |
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| tmassman | ok, refactoring ;) | 21:26 |
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| Charlie_X | Yes, because it means fewer risky, on-the-fly checks. | 21:28 |
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| planetzopebot | zeam.form.base 1.0b4 (PyPI recent updates) http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zeam.form.base/1.0b4 | 23:04 |
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