| kittonian | this is where i'm at right now: http://paste.lisp.org/display/112962 | 00:04 |
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| planetzopebot | getpaid.discount 0.9 (PyPI recent updates) http://pypi.python.org/pypi/getpaid.discount/0.9 | 01:04 |
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| kosh | kittonian: I really don't get why you don't just learn python | 02:00 |
| kosh | kittonian: also we would need a pastebin of the exact error it is erroring on but mostly I am tired of trying to help with complex dtml that should be done with python scripts | 02:02 |
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| shodan45 | is there a diagram somewhere explaining the relationship between zeo, zodb, etc? | 07:55 |
| * shodan45 hopes this is a newbie friendly channel xD | 07:55 | |
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| moo_ | how one creates new plain python buildout from scratch? | 10:51 |
| moo_ | what command generates bootstrap.py? | 10:51 |
| d2m | moo_: easy_install zc.buildout; bin/buildout init | 10:52 |
| moo_ | d2m: got it, thanks | 10:52 |
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| moo_ | d2m: I want to make "redistributable" buildout - some version control seems to distribute bootstrap.py with source code | 11:00 |
| moo_ | so I just grab a copy of it and stick it in the root folder of the project? | 11:00 |
| d2m | yes, or you make your clients install zc.buildout first | 11:01 |
| d2m | if you enclose bootstrap.py you also need to run 'python bootstrap.py' | 11:02 |
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| planetzopebot | Products.cron4plone 1.1.5rc1 (PyPI recent updates) http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Products.cron4plone/1.1.5rc1 | 13:04 |
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| Atul | morning/evening people. | 16:42 |
| Atul | could someone point me to a document that talks about how zeo manages the connection. I am using Zope 2.4.4 | 16:43 |
| Atul | In my case ZEO is shutting down Listener and let the ESTABLISHED connection to work. | 16:44 |
| Atul | new connections are not allowed unless ZEO is bounced. | 16:44 |
| Atul | pls point me to the correct documentation. Thanks for help. | 16:44 |
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| MatthewWilkes | Atul: I can't think of any documentation on ZEO's socket behaviour or for anything on Zopes that old. In fact, I don't really understand the question… | 16:49 |
| Atul | Well the situation is as follows | 16:50 |
| Atul | I have around 250 zope clients connecting to ZEO server | 16:50 |
| Atul | I have added around 100 more instance now | 16:50 |
| Atul | but when all these instances are restarted the ZEO stops listening on the port it is configured to work on | 16:51 |
| Atul | i can see the process running but netstat doesn't show port LISTEN | 16:51 |
| Atul | there are a few ESTABLISHED connections. | 16:52 |
| MatthewWilkes | Atul: Ah, they're all restarted at the same time? | 16:52 |
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| Atul | yep | 16:52 |
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| Atul | infact in a batch of 16 instances | 16:52 |
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| MatthewWilkes | Atul: On install zope tries to reinstall the persistent copies of all its products, which causes a bit of database churn writing things, if you disable product installation on all but one instance it should stop huge amounts of conflicts | 16:53 |
| MatthewWilkes | A few hundred clients all causing lots of write conflicts might be making your zeo shit itself, perhaps? | 16:53 |
| MatthewWilkes | (Just guessing here) | 16:53 |
| Atul | MatthewWilkes: what if I do not touch the cache itself. | 16:54 |
| Atul | I have seen this behaviour by just restarting the ZEODB. (clients were running that time) | 16:55 |
| Atul | i could see the port listening and then it closed after a few minutes | 16:55 |
| Atul | it could be zope's defence mechanism (i don't know) | 16:55 |
| Atul | I am just trying to find pointers that can explain this behaviour | 16:56 |
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| Atul | MatthewWilkes: is there any configurable limit to the number of clients that can connect to ZEODB | 16:58 |
| MatthewWilkes | Atul: I really don't know of anything like that, but this is a really old version, more than 8 years now, before my time so I don't know its eccentricities | 16:59 |
| Atul | yeah its very old but sadly I need to stick to this for now | 17:00 |
| MatthewWilkes | Atul: Yeah, with 350 zope clients I doubt you've got the kind of set up you can change things easily | 17:01 |
| Atul | yeah | 17:02 |
| Atul | anyway thanks MatthewWilkes I'll try to go back to books and google to see if I could find something | 17:02 |
| Atul | Thanks MatthewWilkes appreciate your help | 17:03 |
| MatthewWilkes | Atul: Sure, you *might* be able to try things like having two levels of zeo servers? | 17:03 |
| MatthewWilkes | So groups of 16 or something connect to a zeo server which is configured with a clientstorage to the main zeo server? That would keep the per-process socket requirement down | 17:03 |
| Atul | yeah I'll try to see how that can fit into my current architecture | 17:04 |
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| moo_ | how do I install Python source tar.gz with buildout? | 17:37 |
| moo_ | old distribution which is not properly eggified | 17:37 |
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| benji | moo_: I don't know for sure, but would expect there's a recipe for that: http://pypi.python.org/pypi?:action=browse&show=all&c=512 | 17:41 |
| moo_ | benji: trying hexagoinit.cmmi.download now | 17:43 |
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| moo_ | hmm | 18:09 |
| moo_ | does buildout expose it's python interpreter in some template variable? | 18:10 |
| mgedmin | maybe | 18:13 |
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| mgedmin | wat happen to spelling in this doc section: http://www.buildout.org/docs/tutorial.html?highlight=variables#buildout-default-cfg ? | 18:15 |
| mgedmin | "newst"? | 18:15 |
| mgedmin | "executabe"? | 18:15 |
| moo_ | python | 18:17 |
| moo_ | The name of a section containing information about the default Python interpreter. | 18:17 |
| moo_ | zeero examples what the hell should be there | 18:17 |
| moo_ | how I am supposed to extract information from buildout? | 18:20 |
| moo_ | like debug it? | 18:20 |
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| Theuni1 | -vv? | 18:21 |
| Theuni1 | depends on what you're doing | 18:21 |
| Theuni1 | there's also .installed.cfg | 18:21 |
| moo_ | I want to find out in which variable Python interpreter is exposed | 18:22 |
| moo_ | so I need to print out what variables buildout exposes | 18:22 |
| moo_ | hmm I can actually grab it from -vv | 18:23 |
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| moo_ | aah crap | 18:26 |
| moo_ | I would need to drop out bin/ out of interpreter name | 18:26 |
| Theuni1 | are you in a recipe? | 18:28 |
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| Theuni1 | if yes, then you can also just as python | 18:28 |
| Theuni1 | s/as/ask/ | 18:28 |
| Theuni1 | >>> sys.executable | 18:28 |
| Theuni1 | '/home/ctheune/local/bin/python' | 18:28 |
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| _mup_ | Bug #611746 was filed: NAME_RE mismatch zope.i18n/__init__.py, zope.tal/taldefs.py <zope.i18n:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/611746> | 18:43 |
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| planetzopebot | z3c.testsetup 0.8.2 (PyPI recent updates) http://pypi.python.org/pypi/z3c.testsetup/0.8.2 | 22:04 |
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| cwarner_ | there is a bug in Zope 2.12.7 and possibly up to 2.12.10 even though I havent checked where cAccessControl.so on osx machines is built as x86_64 for i386 platforms.. Users can't readily change this themselves in some cases. Or at least standalone Plone users as the Python distributed only contains a static lib | 22:54 |
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