IRC log of #zope for Wednesday, 2010-09-15

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CIA-7ulif * r116421 z3c.testsetup/src/z3c/testsetup/ (tests/layered_cave/layeredsetup01.py testrunner.txt):02:39
CIA-7Set up layered setup tests with ZCML layers allowed to be torn down. This way we (hopefully) make the Windows tests02:39
CIA-7pass again. While the tests defined in the layered testsetup do not need to be run in separated subprocesses, this02:39
CIA-7might be an issue in real-world applications. But it seems not to be something we can handle inside z3c.testsetup.02:39
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CIA-7ulif * r116422 z3c.testsetup/src/z3c/testsetup/ (README.txt tests/othercave/simplesetup01.py):03:23
CIA-7Let also simplesetup01 test setup tear down layers. This03:23
CIA-7should fix remaining windows problems with tests spread03:23
CIA-7over different layers in different subprocesses.03:23
CIA-7ulif * r116423 z3c.testsetup/CHANGES.txt: Update history.03:23
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CIA-7tseaver * r116424 zope.testrunner/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Show more information about layers whose setup fails (LP #638153).07:31
_mup_Bug #638153: Try to display informations about a layer if its setup has failed <zope.testrunner:Fix Committed by tseaver> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/638153>07:31
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CIA-7janwijbrand * r116425 gocept.selenium/ (src/gocept/selenium/static/__init__.py ztk.cfg): use python2.4 features for starting and stopping the simplehttpserver for serving the static test files09:04
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CIA-7ulif * r116426 /z3c.testsetup/tags/0.8.3: Tag 0.8.3 release.12:04
CIA-7ulif 0.8.3 * r116427 z3c.testsetup/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Remove dev-marker, set release date.12:04
CIA-7ulif * r116428 z3c.testsetup/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Back to work: 0.8.4.12:04
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CIA-7ulif * r116429 bluebream/versions.cfg:12:20
CIA-7Bump pinned z3c.testsetup version. That hopefully should improve test12:20
CIA-7results on Windows.12:20
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CIA-7ulif * r116430 grokui.admin/src/grokui/admin/tests/brokenapps.py: Add tests for https://bugs.launchpad.net/grok/+bug/638763.12:49
CIA-7ulif * r116431 grokui.admin/src/grokui/admin/tests/brokenapps.py: Remove crap.12:49
_mup_Bug #638763: DuplicationError caught in admin when creating app providing wrong error message when error is in app <grok:In Progress by uli-gnufix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/638763>12:49
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CIA-7ulif * r116432 grokui.admin/src/grokui/admin/views.py:13:03
CIA-7Fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/grok/+bug/638763.13:03
CIA-7Don't hide away Duplication/KeyErrors that come from the new13:03
CIA-7application itself.13:03
CIA-7ulif * r116433 grokui.admin/CHANGES.txt: Update history.13:03
CIA-7icemac * r116434 /zope.copypastemove/branches/icemac-lp620353: retired, as merged to trunk13:03
_mup_Bug #638763: DuplicationError caught in admin when creating app providing wrong error message when error is in app <grok:Fix Committed by uli-gnufix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/638763>13:03
planetzopebotGeir Bækholt (Jarn): What's new in Plone 4 (Weblog)  http://maurits.vanrees.org/weblog/archive/2010/09/plone413:04
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planetzopebotJean-Paul Ladage (Zest Software): Plone for your mobile (Weblog)  http://maurits.vanrees.org/weblog/archive/2010/09/mobile-websites16:04
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CIA-7chrism * r116435 transaction/transaction/_transaction.py: avoid reference leaks17:19
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newbee1Hi, I just want to ask if it is possible to use the ZODB with JAVA instead of python?17:39
betabuglikely not17:40
newbee1ok17:40
betabugbut isn't Java being discontinued now anyway?17:40
betabuglast time I went to the computer shop to buy a box of it, they said the manufacturer doesn't make it anymore since they were bought up17:41
newbee1not officially ;)17:41
newbee1and the data stored in the ZODB, is it saved in the JSON format?17:43
betabughahahaha, no17:43
minskmaznewbee1: it's pickled python objects17:43
newbee1it uses the python pickle library?17:44
minskmaznewbee1: the whole point of zodb is to have a single domish OO namespace between your app and persistence layer17:44
minskmaztransparently yes17:44
minskmazas long as it's __repr__ conforms to pickle requirments (most objects do unless you're doing crazy stuff)17:45
newbee1ok17:45
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newbee1but what about the performance?17:45
minskmazvery fast if you know what you're doing17:46
minskmazit's neck and neck with posgres17:46
newbee1but if you unpickle every object17:47
minskmazhave you read the ZODB 3.4 docs ? They're pretty informative17:47
minskmaznope17:47
minskmazit does it for you17:47
minskmazyou don't have to think about it17:47
newbee1OK, I misunderstood you.17:48
minskmazpython objects can be represented in similar ways as JSON so if you're delivering to a javaScript you just write a view that represents the python object in that way17:48
minskmaznewbee1: this is a really decent intro to zope technologies - can be worked through in a day or two17:52
minskmazhttp://www.muthukadan.net/docs/zca.html17:52
minskmazimportant to try and grasp the meaning of the API calls and what they accomplish17:52
newbee1thx17:52
minskmazalso newbee117:53
minskmazhttp://bluebream.zope.org/doc/1.0/ blubream is the the aggregated zope3 using wsgi / buildout and the latest ZTK17:54
minskmazit's being steered by the author of the intro I just sent you17:54
CIA-7chrism * r116436 transaction/ (3 files in 3 dirs):17:54
CIA-7- Fixed ``hexlify`` NameError in ``transaction._transaction.oid_repr``17:54
CIA-7and add test.17:54
newbee1thanks minskmaz17:56
minskmazyou bet newbee1 -- you can always catch me in #meteor if you have a question17:57
newbee1OK I will do it17:58
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