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| CIA-7 | jim 3.8 * r116690 ZODB/ (4 files in 3 dirs): | 00:37 |
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| CIA-7 | OverflowError was raised. Now a TypeError is raised. | 00:37 |
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| CIA-7 | jim 3.9 * r116691 ZODB/src/ (ZODB/Connection.py CHANGES.txt ZODB/tests/testConnection.py): | 01:00 |
| CIA-7 | Bugs Fixed | 01:01 |
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| CIA-7 | _p_changed still set (https://bugs.launchpad.net/zodb/+bug/615758). | 01:01 |
| CIA-7 | jim 3.9 * r116692 ZODB/src/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 01:01 |
| CIA-7 | Bug fixed | 01:01 |
| CIA-7 | The verbose mode of the fstest was broken. | 01:01 |
| _mup_ | Bug #615758: transaction.abort: Incomplete cleanup for new objects <3.9.5> <ZODB:Fix Committed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/615758> | 01:01 |
| CIA-7 | (https://bugs.launchpad.net/zodb/+bug/475996) | 01:01 |
| _mup_ | Bug #475996: [patch] verbose mode broken in fstest.py <ZODB:Fix Committed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/475996> | 01:01 |
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| CIA-7 | janwijbrand * r116697 /zopetoolkit/doc/source/releaseteam/ (meeting-20100824.rst index.rst meeting-20100907.rst): add minutes of previous two meetings | 11:17 |
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| CIA-7 | jim 3.8 * r116699 ZODB/NEWS.txt: Set release date. | 12:19 |
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| CIA-7 | adamg * r116702 zope.testbrowser/ (6 files in 3 dirs): | 14:34 |
| CIA-7 | Fixed a bug that caused the ``Browser`` to keep it's previous ``contents`` | 14:34 |
| CIA-7 | Also adjusted exception messages at places to match pre version 3.4.1 messages. | 14:34 |
| bobo_b | Hi. | 14:55 |
| CIA-7 | adamg * r116703 zope.testbrowser/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Preparing release 3.10.1 | 14:56 |
| CIA-7 | adamg * r116704 /zope.testbrowser/tags/3.10.1: Tagging 3.10.1 | 14:56 |
| CIA-7 | adamg * r116705 zope.testbrowser/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Back to development: 3.10.2 | 14:56 |
| CIA-7 | adamg * r116706 zopetoolkit/zopeapp-versions.cfg: bugs fixed in zope.testbrowser | 14:56 |
| bobo_b | If I use a FSImage in a template, it gives me a full html img-tag. Does anybody know where that comes from? The code in FSImage.py doesn't seem to create it... | 14:57 |
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| planetzopebot | Createcoverage and createzopecoverage (Reinout van Rees' weblog) http://reinout.vanrees.org/weblog/2010/09/21/createcoverage.html | 16:04 |
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| CIA-7 | jim * r116707 /ZODB/tags/3.8.6: tag | 16:33 |
| CIA-7 | jim 3.8.6 * r116708 ZODB/setup.py: Updated version. | 16:33 |
| CIA-7 | icemac * r116709 /zopetoolkit/branches/zope.testing-3.10: branch for integrating zope.testing 3.10 | 16:33 |
| CIA-7 | icemac zope.testing-3.10 * r116710 zopetoolkit/ztk-versions.cfg: integrating zope.testing 3.10 (Thanks Gediminas Paulauskas for the patch.) | 16:33 |
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| CIA-7 | icemac * r116711 /zope.component/branches/3.9: created branch fro ZTK 1.0 | 16:50 |
| CIA-7 | icemac 3.9 * r116712 zope.component/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): fixed versions for branch | 16:50 |
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| j-w | hi ccomb1 | 17:00 |
| j-w | no hanno yet | 17:00 |
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| ccomb | here | 17:00 |
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| j-w | there he is! | 17:01 |
| hannosch | j-w, ccomb: heya | 17:01 |
| j-w | hi hannosch | 17:01 |
| * hannosch still needs to read the meeting notes, sorry | 17:01 | |
| j-w | np | 17:01 |
| j-w | I saw some discussion on zope-dev about ztk-1.1 work, right | 17:02 |
| j-w | zope.testing support etc. | 17:02 |
| hannosch | yes | 17:02 |
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| hannosch | we have one other issue for ZTK 1.0 | 17:02 |
| j-w | ok... | 17:02 |
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| hannosch | when looking at package usage of the frameworks I ignored testing dependencies | 17:03 |
| hannosch | icemac and me have started fixing lots of stuff | 17:03 |
| hannosch | we are almost there now | 17:03 |
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| hannosch | do we have an agenda from last time? | 17:04 |
| CIA-7 | icemac 1.0 * r116713 zopetoolkit/ztk.cfg: swithing to branch as trunk requires zope.testing 3.10 which is not in ZTK 1.0 | 17:04 |
| j-w | only a couple of small points | 17:04 |
| j-w | the landingpage on download.zope.org/zopetoolkit | 17:04 |
| hannosch | not done yet, will do for next week | 17:05 |
| j-w | and - at that time - windows test failure | 17:05 |
| j-w | but we had a green light just before the summit | 17:05 |
| j-w | and adding a remark about the discover-ztk buildbot in the release-prcedures.rst file | 17:05 |
| ccomb | I'm not satisfied with the discover-ztk buildbot | 17:06 |
| j-w | and ideas like aggregated changelog of the packages in the ztk release | 17:06 |
| ccomb | I'm in the process of creating a giant buildbot | 17:06 |
| j-w | ok | 17:06 |
| ccomb | which will test all the packages against all the versions | 17:06 |
| hannosch | ccomb: ok. so you are still working on this. any input from us required / wanted? | 17:06 |
| j-w | hannosch: can you elaborate a bit on the test dependencies issue and how your fixing it? | 17:06 |
| ccomb | not really yet, I'll ask if I block | 17:07 |
| j-w | and whether you need help | 17:07 |
| j-w | ccomb: please do | 17:07 |
| hannosch | ok. so the test dependency stuff: lots of packages still used "deprecated" packages in their tests | 17:07 |
| j-w | yes | 17:07 |
| hannosch | I removed the deprecated packages from trunk and got errors | 17:08 |
| hannosch | we are now fixing all packages to remove those test dependencies | 17:08 |
| j-w | what I do not understand is, martijn faassen and sylvain viollon did quite some work on this | 17:08 |
| hannosch | I think it's only zope.app.authentication left that depends on zope.app.securitypolicy | 17:08 |
| j-w | during the two zapp z.app sprints we had a while ago, to get tid of zope.app for grok | 17:09 |
| hannosch | we had a list of about 10 packages which had "bad" dependencies | 17:09 |
| j-w | ok | 17:09 |
| hannosch | but as I said, there's one left | 17:09 |
| j-w | hmmm | 17:09 |
| j-w | that's great | 17:09 |
| hannosch | the other issue is zope.app.interface and zodbcode (which is a separate issue) | 17:09 |
| ccomb | We also have to find a policy for all the package trunks/branches of the ztk 1.0 branch | 17:10 |
| hannosch | so for the test dependency stuff, I'd like to fix this and then cut a new release candidate | 17:10 |
| hannosch | for zope.app.interface it would really help if bluebream didn't require that anymore | 17:10 |
| hannosch | it's just part of the autogenerated setup.py file | 17:11 |
| ccomb | where does the requirement come from ? | 17:11 |
| ccomb | I'll look at it | 17:11 |
| hannosch | ccomb: I wrote a mail about it three days ago | 17:11 |
| hannosch | subject: "zope.app.interface" | 17:11 |
| hannosch | "bluebream_base/project_template/setup.py_tmpl" | 17:11 |
| ccomb | ok | 17:12 |
| j-w | hannosch: how did you deal with test dependencies on for example zope.app.zcmlfiles? | 17:12 |
| j-w | or zope.app.testing? | 17:12 |
| hannosch | j-w: both are still in the ZTK IIRC | 17:12 |
| j-w | right | 17:12 |
| j-w | but zope.app.zcmlfiles will pull in almost everything zope.app. right | 17:13 |
| hannosch | it's zope.app.securitypolicy for the most part | 17:13 |
| j-w | ? | 17:13 |
| j-w | hmm | 17:13 |
| hannosch | we deprecated 28 zope.app packages which it didn't pull in | 17:13 |
| j-w | ok | 17:13 |
| hannosch | there's lots more to drop once we can drop zope.app.testing and .zcmlfiles | 17:14 |
| j-w | ah, ok | 17:14 |
| j-w | now I understand better.. | 17:14 |
| j-w | but for these 28 packages that were dropped, you had to fix the test deps issue, right? | 17:14 |
| j-w | at least for some | 17:14 |
| hannosch | the policy I was following was: "we can only deprecate something in 1.0 if we really don't use it anymore ourselves" | 17:14 |
| j-w | right | 17:15 |
| hannosch | the packages we had to fix where those that weren't deprecated at all yet but depended on deprecated packages | 17:15 |
| j-w | right | 17:15 |
| j-w | ok, now I understand (sorry, I'm a bit slow today ;) ) | 17:15 |
| hannosch | np :) | 17:15 |
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| hannosch | summary: we fix one last package and cleanup zope.app.interface and all is good | 17:16 |
| hannosch | ok. that was me talking a lot. other topics? | 17:17 |
| j-w | ok, so, I think this is related: when we try to get rid of even more zope.app package later on, we might want to look at the work martijn and sylvain did in their attempt to get rid of the dependency on zope.app.zcmlfiles and zope.app.testing, replacing test infra with new stuff in zope.component.testlayer, zope.app.appsetup.testlayer and zope.app.wsgi.testlayer | 17:17 |
| j-w | that stuff should probably need more advertising | 17:18 |
| hannosch | right. once we have the ZTK trunk stabilized again, we should start a new round of deprecating stuff | 17:18 |
| j-w | yes | 17:18 |
| j-w | just now I saw windows test failures again in the summary post to zope-dev | 17:19 |
| j-w | but other buildbot testing windows do not | 17:19 |
| agroszer | that looks like pypi was down inthe night | 17:20 |
| j-w | ow, ok | 17:20 |
| hannosch | gah, I lost overview of the buildbots and which ones already test trunk and branches/1.0 and which ones still believe trunk to be 1.0 | 17:20 |
| agroszer | winbot should be right ;-) | 17:20 |
| ccomb | the one I maintain uses branches/1.0, but the package trunks | 17:21 |
| ccomb | because branches/1.0 points to package trunks | 17:21 |
| ccomb | except one | 17:21 |
| hannosch | ccomb: ok. so next up is package branches | 17:21 |
| hannosch | either we create branches for all now, or we do it on demand | 17:22 |
| hannosch | I don't really care either way | 17:22 |
| ccomb | Maybe we should just create when the ztk trunk is broken | 17:22 |
| j-w | that's maintenance branches for packages in the ztk-1.0, right? | 17:22 |
| ccomb | yes | 17:22 |
| hannosch | ccomb: I'd be fine with on demand | 17:22 |
| j-w | I agree on demand would be ok, once we see a broken build | 17:22 |
| ccomb | ok so what remains for this meeting? | 17:25 |
| * hannosch scratches head - nothing? | 17:25 | |
| j-w | uhm, say I see a broken buildbot, how do I see exactly what branch/trunk it is checking out for testing? | 17:25 |
| hannosch | j-w: look in sources.cfg | 17:25 |
| j-w | for example for this one: http://winbot.zope.org/builders/ztk_10%20py_265_win32/builds/84 | 17:25 |
| hannosch | ah, so the config of the bulildbot | 17:25 |
| j-w | in source.cfg of what? | 17:26 |
| hannosch | I think those aren't public yet. do3cc wanted to work on that | 17:26 |
| agroszer | that sucks, we should put in an "svn info" step | 17:26 |
| j-w | yes, the config of the particular buildbot, to now how to reproduce the situation and to try to fix it | 17:26 |
| j-w | it would help clear the confusion/overview of what buildbot tests what | 17:27 |
| hannosch | ok, any volunteer to bug do3cc or the buildbot maintainers about this? | 17:27 |
| j-w | uhm, ok, please :-) | 17:27 |
| j-w | uhm, I thought __you__ volunteerde, sorry :) | 17:27 |
| agroszer | I'll do | 17:28 |
| hannosch | thanks! | 17:28 |
| agroszer | I'll bug do3cc | 17:28 |
| hannosch | heh :) | 17:28 |
| agroszer | and update my bot ;-) | 17:28 |
| j-w | uhm, so we ask the buildbot volunteers to ass the svn info step, right? | 17:28 |
| j-w | *add | 17:28 |
| hannosch | bad ass, yes :) | 17:28 |
| agroszer | I'd vote for svn info | 17:28 |
| hannosch | agroszer: +1 | 17:28 |
| agroszer | then it's documented forever, bot config changes voer time... | 17:28 |
| agroszer | s/voer/over | 17:29 |
| ccomb | svn info of the ztk or packages ? | 17:29 |
| agroszer | I guess ztk | 17:29 |
| agroszer | then you know the URL | 17:29 |
| hannosch | ztk is enough | 17:29 |
| hannosch | then you can see if it does bin/buildout or bin/buildout -c development.cfg | 17:29 |
| agroszer | ztk URL and rev together is quite specific | 17:29 |
| j-w | hannosch, agroszer right, as long as you have the info to reproduce it locally | 17:30 |
| j-w | ok, great | 17:30 |
| ccomb | mine show the revision http://buildbot.afpy.org/ztk1.0dev/waterfall | 17:30 |
| agroszer | that should do it, unless I miss something | 17:30 |
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| hannosch | schedule next meeting? | 17:30 |
| j-w | ok | 17:30 |
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| j-w | next week? | 17:31 |
| j-w | same time same place? | 17:31 |
| ccomb | ok for me | 17:31 |
| hannosch | ok for me (I'll be in Norway, but should have time) | 17:31 |
| j-w | ok | 17:31 |
| hannosch | great, thx for the meeting :) | 17:32 |
| ccomb | btw how was the summit? | 17:32 |
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| j-w | ccomb: intense | 17:33 |
| agroszer | let's see when Theuni1 will do the summary ;-) | 17:34 |
| * Theuni1 ducks | 17:34 | |
| * agroszer thought so | 17:34 | |
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| MatthewWilkes | Theuni1: Speaking of which, are the photos from the conference going to be online anywhere? | 17:46 |
| MatthewWilkes | There must be thousands of them | 17:46 |
| agroszer | and the slides? ;-) | 17:47 |
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| Theuni1 | MatthewWilkes: check this for preliminary images: http://www.zope.de/tagung/Dresden_2010/galerie | 17:47 |
| Theuni1 | agroszer: http://www.zope.de/tagung/Dresden_2010/vortraege | 17:47 |
| agroszer | great | 17:47 |
| * Charlie_X gets out the box of very special developer biscuits. | 17:51 | |
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| MatthewWilkes | Theuni1: cool, ta | 17:52 |
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| * Theuni1 yawns | 18:00 | |
| * Charlie_X looks expectantly at Theuni1 | 18:00 | |
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| Theuni1 | me too :) | 18:00 |
| Charlie_X | Thanks again for the hard work you and the rest of the team put into the party, the summit and the conference. | 18:00 |
| agroszer | where are your papers? | 18:00 |
| Theuni1 | Who aside me is alive? And who can still bear with me after last week? :) | 18:00 |
| Theuni1 | my papers are sitting on my desk | 18:01 |
| Theuni1 | I think I will get to them this week. :) | 18:01 |
| Charlie_X | I don't know. Jule obviously deserves a medal! | 18:01 |
| Theuni1 | heh | 18:01 |
| Theuni1 | I'll get one for her. :) | 18:01 |
| tfrew87 | Hi I'm on zope 2.12, I have a problem with zope trying to pickle p4a.subtyper.submenu upon import of a Plone object | 18:01 |
| Theuni1 | So, did anything come up for someone after the summit that you'd like to share? | 18:02 |
| Theuni1 | (It did for me, but I'll wait for a second.) | 18:02 |
| * hannosch survived, made it back alive, still catching up on mail :) | 18:02 | |
| Theuni1 | heh :) | 18:02 |
| Theuni1 | Yeah. It was an intensive week and I guess others are still recovering, too. :) | 18:03 |
| hannosch | I shared my thoughts with the rest of Jarn, there wasn't really anything in there for public use | 18:03 |
| hannosch | expect that we are in a good position with both Plone and repoze.bfg as our "platforms" | 18:03 |
| hannosch | except even | 18:03 |
| Charlie_X | hannosch: that's an interesting but useful mix. | 18:04 |
| hannosch | I think we were lucky to avoid Zope3 and Grok. but that's just my view | 18:05 |
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| Theuni1 | heh :) | 18:05 |
| Charlie_X | Theuni1: if you haven't got round to summarising the summary then maybe that can be sent to the ML for further discussion next week? | 18:05 |
| Theuni1 | Charlie_X: i hope to do so by thursday | 18:06 |
| Charlie_X | hannosch: Similar for except I also largely managed to avoid Plone! ;-) | 18:06 |
| Charlie_X | Although if I don't get any answers about my doctest problem I might have to look at plone.testing and I missed the presentation. | 18:07 |
| hannosch | Charlie_X: plone.testing won't help you. it's written for hard core developers with complex test layer needs | 18:07 |
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| hannosch | Theuni1: so anything you want to share today? or shall we move on? | 18:08 |
| * Charlie_X wonders which qualifier applies to him. Both, of course. | 18:08 | |
| Theuni1 | hannosch: thanks for asking :) | 18:08 |
| Theuni1 | For anyone who wasn't at the conference or sprint ... :) | 18:09 |
| * wosc hands out seatbelts | 18:09 | |
| Theuni1 | I kept bashing my head to find a perspective on the code and history that Zope has to figure out a way forward that sounds interesting (to me, that is). | 18:09 |
| * fdrake is expecting Theuni1 to announce he's switching to PHP. | 18:10 | |
| Theuni1 | Almost. Jim pointed out that the Zope 3 effort was misguided by trying to rebuild a better Zope 2 by applying better development techniques but built on assumptions that were already skewed in Zope 2. | 18:10 |
| Charlie_X | fdrake: we actually had someone at the conference who's history is PHP | 18:11 |
| Theuni1 | (Zope 2 being an app that gradually become frameworky.) | 18:11 |
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| Theuni1 | Charlie_X: hell. my history touched PHP. *shame* | 18:11 |
| Charlie_X | I used to own two of the top Google hits for "PHP is evil" | 18:11 |
| Theuni1 | Anyway, I found that I always liked the patterns (Gary called it agile formality) that the ZCA implements. | 18:12 |
| Charlie_X | Theuni1: Agreed. I think we found that whatever we're working on with have a lot of the same vocabulary. | 18:13 |
| Theuni1 | And we also noticed that other web-oriented frameworks have run ahead regarding developer-friendliness on the web-level. | 18:13 |
| Theuni1 | But also, many "frameworks" tend towards the technical aspect of their focus (e.g. building web uis) leaving the developer on their own how to structure their app. | 18:13 |
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| Theuni1 | I think the ZCA has value in that space. During some discussion with wosc he pointed me out to the "Ports and adapters" pattern: http://alistair.cockburn.us/Hexagonal+architecture | 18:14 |
| Theuni1 | If you look through this, it almost sounds like Zope 3 minus web. | 18:14 |
| Theuni1 | wosc and I used the sprint to research a bit more and we think there might be value to follow a goal to develop what we have in the ZCA towards a suitable set of vocabulary, guidelines and software tools to enable developers to develop more well-structured applications without sacrificing agility. | 18:15 |
| Theuni1 | We tried some of the points in an experiment: https://code.gocept.com/hg/public/hex/ | 18:16 |
| Theuni1 | One part of this would be to allow us to have a more relaxed attitude towards other technologies (like bfg, or maybe even turbogears etc) by achieving a more well defined problem space in our center of focus. | 18:17 |
| Theuni1 | I think that's what I can say right now without rambling. :) | 18:17 |
| Charlie_X | That would chime with my thinking. We have nothing to lose by opening up and nothing to gain by building barriers. | 18:18 |
| * hannosch was hoping for the rant :) | 18:18 | |
| Theuni1 | hannosch: not on IRC. my fingers would bleed. | 18:18 |
| Theuni1 | anyway. we're trying to have a sprint to think through some more ideas (incl. non-software issues) in october and i'll join the grok sprint with wolfgang in november. | 18:19 |
| Theuni1 | I think there's a lot value in combining procedure and software (as there's no silver bullet anyway). | 18:19 |
| Theuni1 | *crickets* | 18:21 |
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| Theuni1 | Are you: [ ] thinking [ ] running away screaming [ ] waiting to go to the next issue? | 18:21 |
| agroszer | just advertise the sprint date | 18:22 |
| hannosch | [x] waiting | 18:22 |
| Charlie_X | Theuni1: It's probably worth noting that the summit did produce some concrete tasks | 18:23 |
| Theuni1 | RIGHT | 18:23 |
| Theuni1 | oops. | 18:23 |
| Theuni1 | right | 18:23 |
| agroszer | I's say get them online asap somewhere | 18:23 |
| agroszer | just the tasks and one sentence | 18:23 |
| agroszer | and maybe who signed up for it | 18:24 |
| Theuni1 | We got 12 or so specific tasks that represent smaller gradual steps we found worthwhile to improve various aspects "Zope". | 18:24 |
| Theuni1 | agroszer: yeah, will do. thursday, as I said. | 18:24 |
| Theuni1 | ok | 18:24 |
| Theuni1 | so, how about a next bug day? | 18:25 |
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| Charlie_X | We have a Doodle for it - next week IIRC | 18:25 |
| Theuni1 | right | 18:25 |
| Theuni1 | looks like wednesday next week | 18:25 |
| Theuni1 | I won't be able to make that, but 4 people signed up | 18:26 |
| Theuni1 | charlie, jens, godefroid and christophe | 18:26 |
| Theuni1 | so i'll announce 2010-09-29 as the next bug day | 18:26 |
| Charlie_X | http://doodle.com/ntqpvpcaxdwus352 | 18:26 |
| Charlie_X | Good. What was the meta stuff you wanted to cover? | 18:27 |
| Theuni1 | Just checking up on how you think we're doing with the meeting. The last weeks have been a bit unstructured from my side as I moved flats and was sick and then the summit. Nevertheless: any issues/proposals/questions about the meeting structure? | 18:28 |
| Charlie_X | Even though it was unstructured I think we still managed to have some good discussions. The time slot concentrates minds. | 18:30 |
| Theuni1 | I have one :) | 18:31 |
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| Charlie_X | Nevertheless going forward we probably have to work out how to deal with the outcome of the summit. | 18:31 |
| Charlie_X | Shoot | 18:31 |
| Theuni1 | I feel somewhat uncomfortable the way I select topics. | 18:31 |
| Theuni1 | I'm like a bad random generator picking stuff from the list ;) | 18:31 |
| Charlie_X | Theuni1: you're doing fine unless people complain. But the announcements and requests for topics are always too late. | 18:32 |
| Theuni1 | heh. thought so. | 18:32 |
| Theuni1 | We agreed I should do them on Monday. | 18:32 |
| goschtl | what are the tasks more technical or documentatian ? | 18:32 |
| Theuni1 | But then my todo lists tend to be really long on mondays and I push it away. | 18:32 |
| Theuni1 | goschtl: so and so | 18:33 |
| Charlie_X | Theuni1: any chance of preparing the list on Friday and posting it on Monday? | 18:33 |
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| Theuni1 | maybe. i could put it on my list on friday and then it would have a higher chance to get done on monday ;) | 18:34 |
| Theuni1 | i'll try it for friday. | 18:34 |
| Charlie_X | I can always remind you... | 18:35 |
| Theuni1 | do that :) | 18:35 |
| Charlie_X | Anytime Monday should be okay for most people I would think. | 18:35 |
| Theuni1 | guess so :) | 18:35 |
| Theuni1 | that's why we agreed to it in the first place | 18:36 |
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| Theuni1 | anyway. i think that's it for today. thanks for coming :) | 18:37 |
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| Theuni1 | enjoy the rest of the party | 18:37 |
| agroszer | thx | 18:37 |
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| Charlie_X | Thanks | 18:38 |
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| planetzopebot | Chapter 2 draft and some words about the plan (ZODB Documentation) http://zodbdocs.blogspot.com/2010/09/chapter-2-draft-and-some-words-about.html | 23:04 |
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| CIA-7 | Make sure temporary storage is closed, even if there is an error while | 23:16 |
| CIA-7 | committing. | 23:16 |
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