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| CIA-81 | icemac * r118012 z3c.tan/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Conform to repository policy. | 09:31 |
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| CIA-81 | icemac * r118013 z3c.template/ (CHANGES.txt src/z3c/template/tests.py): | 09:46 |
| CIA-81 | - Using Python's ``doctest`` module instead of depreacted | 09:46 |
| CIA-81 | ``zope.testing.doctest``. | 09:46 |
| CIA-81 | icemac 0.2 * r118014 z3c.testsetup/ (14 files in 3 dirs): Conform to repository policy. | 09:46 |
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| betabug | hmmm, I have a situation where an "Update Catalog" leeds to inconsistent results | 13:16 |
| betabug | one of the indexes depends on another of the indexes (the method that is indexed does a catalog search and some computation on the result) | 13:17 |
| betabug | aparently at some point the 2nd index is empty or inconsistent and some results are missing | 13:17 |
| betabug | now the interesting question is: is there a bug in my code or is it just a situation of "Do not click on 'Update Catalog'"? :-) | 13:18 |
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| MrTango | hi anyone here how knows how the ftp access is working with paths in username like otto@site/documents? | 14:52 |
| MrTango | the doc string of the FTP Module says, that if one use usernames like this, zope change the ftp directory on login | 14:54 |
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| betabug | hmm, never heard about that | 15:09 |
| betabug | maybe it doesn't show the root directory any more? | 15:09 |
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| MrTango | betabug: it works now, and i will build a package to add a new config parameter to zope.conf, i would like configure the start path for all users without special names ;) | 15:44 |
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| CIA-81 | ctheune * r118015 /zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/ (zope-dev-20101102.rst archive.rst index.rst): prepare next meeting | 16:33 |
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| planetzopebot | Plone Foundation Board Election Results (Plone News) http://plone.org/foundation/newsitems/plone-foundation-board-election-results-2010 | 18:04 |
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| CIA-81 | jim * r118016 ZODB/src/ZEO/tests/test_cache.py: spread elipsis to avoid spurious test failure | 18:18 |
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| kolla | I have a site with only one zope (2.10, debian lenny) instans and one virtualhost. I have put apache infront of it and made rewrite rules that seem to work well, but one problem remains, on the default main page, there's a "base href=http://localhost:8080/mysite" at the top | 18:52 |
| mgedmin | kolla, you need to tell zope about your rewrite rules | 18:52 |
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| d2m | not really | 18:52 |
| mgedmin | this is done by rewriting to /VirtualHostRoot/yourpublicserver.com/$1 or something like that; I forgot the exact syntax | 18:53 |
| kolla | I've read up and down and tried all kinds if tricks, but havent managed to get it working | 18:53 |
| mgedmin | it's VirtualHostBase | 18:53 |
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| kolla | is "VirtualHostBase" a magic string, or is it some example directory or what? | 18:53 |
| mgedmin | here's how I put a zwiki on my public site: | 18:53 |
| d2m | kolla: try http://betabug.ch/zope/witch | 18:54 |
| mgedmin | RewriteRule ^/wiki(/.*)?$ http://localhost:28082/VirtualHostBase/https/fridge.pov.lt:443/wiki/VirtualHostRoot/_vh_wiki$1 | 18:54 |
| kolla | for all sub pages it works just fine, the problem is only the front page | 18:54 |
| mgedmin | a more usual example would be RewriteRule ^/(.*)$ http://localhost:28082/VirtualHostBase/https/fridge.pov.lt:443/VirtualHostRoot/$1 | 18:54 |
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| kolla | d2m: thanks | 18:56 |
| kolla | thanks, got it working finally | 18:56 |
| kolla | mgedmin: I suspect ^/(.*) doesn't work in the case where people only type in "http://domain.bla | 18:57 |
| kolla | there's no / at the end, and weird things happen | 18:57 |
| mgedmin | oh? | 18:58 |
| mgedmin | I thought apache rewrote paths so there's always a leading / | 18:58 |
| mgedmin | I can check the config of http://pov.lt, which is a zope2 site | 18:59 |
| kolla | anyhow... thanks, the witch fixed it... I read about "the witch", but didnt realize it was a service | 18:59 |
| kolla | mgedmin: maybe, I don't know.. just guessing | 18:59 |
| mgedmin | RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://localhost:8090/VirtualHostBase/http/pov.lt:80/pov.lt/VirtualHostRoot/$1 [L,P] | 18:59 |
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| kolla | anyways, thanks :) | 19:02 |
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| donri | BTrees are slower for me when I'm iterating all items (which makes sense, I guess). Are there other situations when they're worse than persistentmapping? | 22:53 |
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| kosh | donri: that is not always true, only for small ones | 23:12 |
| donri | Also makes sense | 23:12 |
| donri | What counts as small? | 23:12 |
| kosh | donri: a persistentmapping is just a dict, if your dict is big enough you will face a pretty large penalty for loading it in the first place and you will use a lot more memory | 23:12 |
| kosh | BTrees are far more memory friendly | 23:13 |
| kosh | well I usually use BTrees with over 100 entries but I have many with 100K entries | 23:13 |
| donri | Is <10k small? | 23:13 |
| donri | Well OOBTree was slower for me with around 5000 entries | 23:14 |
| kosh | how much slower | 23:14 |
| kosh | also you have to think about writing speed | 23:14 |
| kosh | everytime you and a single entry to a persistent mapping you write the N | 23:15 |
| kosh | ENTIRE structure again | 23:15 |
| donri | 8 seconds to export all entries in XML compared to 6 | 23:15 |
| kosh | and what happens if many people try to do it at once? what about multiple reads and writes to that same data structure? | 23:15 |
| donri | OK so I should go with btress eh | 23:16 |
| kosh | yes | 23:16 |
| kosh | long long ago I used persistentmappings and by the time you add a few thousand entries to them one at a time your db will have grown by over a GB but pack down to 10s of MB | 23:17 |
| kosh | with a BTree you can add thousands of entries and when you pack it down it goes down almost nothing and never grows much bigger then a persistentmapping | 23:18 |
| kosh | if you use persistentmappings on data structures you write to a lot you will blow up your db very quickly | 23:18 |
| kosh | which will also increase memory requirements | 23:18 |
| donri | How about ordered data such as a revision history | 23:19 |
| kosh | OOBTree are ordered based on the key | 23:21 |
| kosh | so if you put things in with a timestamp or something like that they will be ordered | 23:21 |
| donri | Quick way to get the newest? | 23:25 |
| kosh | mostly persistentmappings look good in microbenchmarks but fail badly in large systems | 23:25 |
| kosh | well an OOBTree has a maxKey() method so you could call that to get the highest key and use that to get the value if you want | 23:26 |
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