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| cna | hi how to make hidden variables in zope 3 forms | 09:16 |
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| cna | if anybody knows please give some pointers where i can go farward | 09:17 |
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| CIA-82 | hannosch 2.12 * r118726 Zope/doc/CHANGES.rst: Cosmetics | 16:32 |
| CIA-82 | hannosch 2.12 * r118727 Zope/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Fixed argument parsing for entrypoint based zopectl commands. | 16:32 |
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| CIA-82 | hannosch 2.13 * r118728 Zope/doc/CHANGES.rst: Merged c118726 from 2.12 branch | 16:33 |
| CIA-82 | hannosch 2.13 * r118729 Zope/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Merged c118727 from 2.12 branch | 16:33 |
| CIA-82 | hannosch * r118730 Zope/doc/CHANGES.rst: Merged c118726 from 2.12 branch | 16:33 |
| CIA-82 | hannosch * r118731 Zope/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Merged c118727 from 2.12 branch | 16:33 |
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| CIA-82 | hannosch 2.12 * r118732 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst versions.cfg setup.py): Prepare Zope2 2.12.14. | 16:48 |
| CIA-82 | hannosch * r118733 /Zope/tags/2.12.14: Tagged Zope2 2.12.14. | 16:48 |
| CIA-82 | hannosch 2.12 * r118734 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst versions.cfg setup.py): vb | 16:48 |
| CIA-82 | hannosch * r118735 zope2docs/releases: 2.12.14 is out | 16:48 |
| CIA-82 | hannosch 2.13 * r118736 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst versions.cfg setup.py): Prepare Zope2 2.13.1. | 16:48 |
| CIA-82 | hannosch * r118737 /Zope/tags/2.13.1: Tagged Zope2 2.13.1. | 16:48 |
| CIA-82 | hannosch 2.13 * r118738 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst versions.cfg setup.py): vb | 16:48 |
| CIA-82 | hannosch * r118739 zope2docs/releases: 2.13.1 is out | 16:48 |
| CIA-82 | wosc * r118740 /gocept.selenium/branches/wosc-zope2-threads: Branch to investigat thread isolation problems with selenium+zope2 | 16:48 |
| CIA-82 | wosc wosc-zope2-threads * r118741 gocept.selenium/src/gocept/selenium/zope2/__init__.py: Get a new ZODB connection per traversal | 16:48 |
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| * Charlie_X coughs | 17:01 | |
| Charlie_X | Good afternoon. Anyone here for the weekly meeting? | 17:02 |
| CIA-82 | thefunny42 * r118742 grokcore.view/ (23 files in 7 dirs): Merge shared_templates_userwarning branch | 17:02 |
| * mgedmin is sort-of-here, although a bit busy and with nothing useful to say ... | 17:04 | |
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| Charlie_X | Looks like Hanno is preparing another Zope 2.12 release. | 17:14 |
| Charlie_X | And I need to know how to make a release, I guess. | 17:14 |
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| mgedmin | the zope.publisher thing? | 17:18 |
| mgedmin | there's a package called zest.releaser that makes releases very easy to make | 17:19 |
| mgedmin | (with one caveat about setuptools, version control plugins and incomplete source distributions) | 17:20 |
| mgedmin | I'd make the release myself if I understood/felt a bit more confident about the change | 17:23 |
| mgedmin | it looks all right to *me*, but I don't want the one to be blamed for making a release that broke Zope 2.whatever at the last minute ;) | 17:24 |
| Charlie_X | I understand | 17:25 |
| Charlie_X | If I knew how I could run it on some of my own sites - possibly if I included it via svn:externals= | 17:26 |
| Charlie_X | ? | 17:26 |
| mgedmin | how do you deploy zope 2? buildout? | 17:27 |
| Charlie_X | ype | 17:27 |
| Charlie_X | God, my typing is awful today. | 17:27 |
| mgedmin | then you could add develop += /path/to/your/checkout/of/zope.publisher to buildout.cfg and unpin the version | 17:28 |
| mgedmin | or pin the version to '3.12.5dev', assuming that's what the version looks like in svn | 17:28 |
| Charlie_X | Okay, I'll give that a try later. | 17:31 |
| Charlie_X | I guess we should also be looking towards the next bug day. | 17:32 |
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| Charlie_X | But I guess that is difficult in December. | 17:38 |
| Charlie_X | Okay, I guess that was the meeting. Thanks for the company mgedmin | 17:39 |
| CIA-82 | thefunny42 * r118743 grokcore.view/ (CHANGES.txt src/grokcore/view/meta/views.py): Factor out a TemplateGrokker. | 17:44 |
| CIA-82 | thefunny42 * r118744 grokcore.view/src/grokcore/view/meta/views.py: Properly detect the component name. | 17:45 |
| CIA-82 | thefunny42 * r118745 grokcore.viewlet/ (CHANGES.txt src/grokcore/viewlet/meta.py): Update to use the new TemplateGrokker. | 17:45 |
| CIA-82 | janwijbrand * r118746 groktoolkit/buildout.cfg: auto checkout grokcore.view and grokcore.viewlet while working on the template registry changes | 17:45 |
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| planetzopebot | Python Jobs Board Maintainer Changing (Python Software Foundation News) http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PythonSoftwareFoundationNews/~3/FKKQcxXSVBs/python-jobs-board-maintainer-changing.html | 18:04 |
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| CIA-82 | thefunny42 * r118747 megrok.layout/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Use new TemplateGrokker | 18:12 |
| CIA-82 | janwijbrand * r118748 grokui.base/src/grokui/base/README.txt: the template registry want module info now for view components | 18:12 |
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| CIA-82 | thefunny42 * r118750 grokcore.view/src/grokcore/view/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Update warning message to be move clear and more generic (it can be triggered not only for Views). | 19:11 |
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| CIA-82 | hannosch 2.13 * r118751 Zope/ (src/App/DavLockManager.py doc/CHANGES.rst): LP 686664: WebDAV Lock Manager ZMI view wasn't accessible. | 20:03 |
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| CIA-82 | hannosch 2.13 * r118752 Zope/src/App/DavLockManager.py: PEP8 / cleanup | 20:23 |
| CIA-82 | hannosch * r118753 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst src/App/DavLockManager.py): Merged c118751, c118752 from 2.13 branch | 20:23 |
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| poorboywilly | what is the time complexity of packing the database proportional to? is it simply the large the DB, the longer to pack, it can I shorten pack time by increasing (or decreasing) the max object age? | 20:34 |
| poorboywilly | wow that was terribly written. should read "the larger the DB" and "or can I" | 20:35 |
| CIA-82 | yuppie 2.2 * r118754 CMF/ (buildout-zope212.cfg buildout-zope213.cfg): - updated Zope2 and ZTK versions | 20:35 |
| CIA-82 | yuppie * r118755 CMF/ (buildout-zope212.cfg buildout-zope213.cfg): - updated Zope2 and ZTK versions | 20:35 |
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| TresEquis | poorboywilly, there are two parts of the pack | 20:40 |
| TresEquis | the first is a scan of the DB, which is going to be O(n) in the total number of transactions | 20:41 |
| TresEquis | the second is copying the "live" transactions per your specified interval | 20:41 |
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| TresEquis | that will be O(n) in the number of transactions touching object revisions which are "live" in that interval: the shorter the interval, the shorter this phase, down to a floor of "all current objects" | 20:42 |
| TresEquis | which ocurrs if you pass 0 | 20:43 |
| poorboywilly | TresEquis: thanks, that's very helpful...also, considering that how is disk space utilized | 20:44 |
| poorboywilly | is the DB copied first, and then the new one built from what is selected? | 20:44 |
| poorboywilly | or is it copied then pared down? | 20:44 |
| poorboywilly | sorry first question should be " | 20:44 |
| poorboywilly | is db moved first" | 20:45 |
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| TresEquis | poorboywilly, the "live" transactions are copied into a new file, | 20:47 |
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| TresEquis | at the end, the old file is renamed "*.pack" and the new file is renamed "*.fs" | 20:48 |
| TresEquis | but only if packing succeeds | 20:48 |
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| poorboywilly | TresEquis: thanks | 20:57 |
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| hannosch | ccomb: evening! | 21:03 |
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| hannosch | j-w_: evening! | 21:05 |
| j-w_ | ccomb, hannosch | 21:05 |
| j-w_ | hi | 21:05 |
| j-w_ | i made, somewhat in time :) | 21:05 |
| * hannosch is here for two minutes | 21:06 | |
| hannosch | and ccomb didn't respond to my greeting yet :) | 21:06 |
| j-w_ | and I need to apologize immediately: I did't do last meeting's minutes :( | 21:06 |
| j-w_ | ah, ok | 21:06 |
| hannosch | ah, I was wondering about those notes - but no worries, we'll just remember what was in them | 21:07 |
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| hannosch | j-w_: hhm, do you actually remember what we already did last week and what is up on the agenda this week? | 21:08 |
| * j-w_ looking at the IRC logs | 21:08 | |
| j-w_ | there was the thing where we would check not to have introduces unwanted dependencies on distribute | 21:08 |
| j-w_ | as oposed to setuptools | 21:08 |
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| hannosch | right. that's the one I remember and I didn't check | 21:09 |
| j-w_ | we discussed packages that declare dep of unreleased versions | 21:09 |
| hannosch | so postpone until next time :) | 21:09 |
| j-w_ | ok | 21:09 |
| j-w_ | i was supposed to make a list of packages that have this issue | 21:10 |
| j-w_ | postpone to next time too, I'm afraid... | 21:11 |
| hannosch | :) | 21:11 |
| * hannosch guesses this meeting will be short | 21:11 | |
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| j-w_ | (on the plus side, I was able to put some work into fanstatic and a long standing grokcore.view branch...) | 21:11 |
| j-w_ | (not that that concerns ZTK directly though) | 21:11 |
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| hannosch | well, it's good work - so you can bring it up and we can applaud you :) | 21:13 |
| j-w_ | :) | 21:14 |
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| hannosch | mmh, I get the feeling ccomb isn't really here | 21:14 |
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| j-w_ | did anything else come up in the meantime? | 21:14 |
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| j-w_ | in the last two weeks I mean | 21:14 |
| hannosch | I don't think so. If I understand Tres mails and the Python bug report correctly we might have made progress on the Python 2.7 / zope.proxy issue | 21:14 |
| j-w_ | if not, maybe we should try to actually accomplish last time's task and set a new date? | 21:15 |
| j-w_ | oh, right yes, cool | 21:15 |
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| j-w_ | hannosch, ccomb would it be an idea to meet next week? | 21:15 |
| j-w_ | instead of in two weeks? | 21:15 |
| j-w_ | to see whether we got a bit further on our issues? | 21:16 |
| hannosch | please. in two weeks I'll spent the day with Theuni and Veit discussing Zope all day long already ... no need to do more of it in the evening ;) | 21:16 |
| j-w_ | :-) | 21:16 |
| j-w_ | hannosch, discussing Zope in the sense of "what the future holds?" | 21:16 |
| j-w_ | if I may ask | 21:17 |
| hannosch | j-w_: yep | 21:17 |
| j-w_ | interesting | 21:17 |
| hannosch | if anything concrete comes out of it, I'll report it | 21:17 |
| j-w_ | that'll be useful, thanks | 21:18 |
| hannosch | so let's meet dec 14th 20:30? | 21:18 |
| j-w_ | yes, i'll mail about that, so that ccomb has a chance to chip in on that | 21:18 |
| hannosch | ok. cool | 21:19 |
| j-w_ | thanks | 21:19 |
| hannosch | thank you! :)) | 21:19 |
| * hannosch goes back to reading chris zcml rants | 21:20 | |
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| ccomb | hannosch: j-w_ | 21:25 |
| j-w_ | ha, ccomb I just send you a mail :) | 21:26 |
| ccomb | sorry, I was on the phone | 21:26 |
| j-w_ | np | 21:27 |
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| j-w_ | we didn't really followup yet on our tasks of last meeting | 21:27 |
| ccomb | ok for next week 20:30 | 21:28 |
| ccomb | I'm setting an alarm 30min before | 21:28 |
| j-w_ | :-) | 21:29 |
| hannosch | ccomb: ok ;) | 21:30 |
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