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planetzopebotPython: Implementing rich comparison the correct way. (Lennart Regebro: Python, Plone, Web)  http://regebro.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/python-implementing-rich-comparison-the-correct-way/02:04
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CIA-82icemac * r118856 z3reload/ (5 files in 2 dirs):09:49
CIA-82- Updated test set up to run with ZTK 1.0.09:49
CIA-82- The tests are still failing: don't know how to fix them09:49
CIA-82icemac * r118857 z3reload/ (LICENSE.txt bootstrap.py COPYRIGHT.txt setup.py): Conform to repository policy.09:49
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CIA-82rogerineichen * r118858 z3c.form/ (src/z3c/form/interfaces.py CHANGES.txt src/z3c/form/form.txt):11:48
CIA-82- Security issue, removed IBrowserRequest from IFormLayer. This prevents to11:48
CIA-82mixin IBrowserRequest into non IBrowserRequest e.g. IJSONRPCRequest.11:48
CIA-82This should be compatible since a browser request using z3c.form already11:48
CIA-82provides IBrowserRequest and the IFormLayer is only a marker interface used11:48
CIA-82as skin layer.11:48
CIA-82- added test11:48
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CIA-82rogerineichen * r118859 z3c.pagelet/ (CHANGES.txt src/z3c/pagelet/provider.py):12:19
CIA-82Change request interface in pagelet adapter signature e.g.12:19
CIA-82(context, request, pagelet). Switch from IBrowserRequest to IHTTPRequest.12:19
CIA-82This allows to use the pagelet pattern for jsonrpc requests which doesn't12:19
CIA-82provide IBrowserRequest.12:19
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CIA-82gotcha * r118860 gocept.selenium/plonetesting-plone3.cfg: autocheckout until released13:03
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planetzopebotDjango job in Utrecht (django, python, cms, maps) (Reinout van Rees' weblog)  http://reinout.vanrees.org/weblog/2010/12/14/python-django-cms-vacature-utrecht.html14:04
CIA-82tlotze * r118861 zc.buildout/src/zc/buildout/download.py: added a comment to explain the intent of the regexp14:04
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CIA-82tlotze * r118862 /zc.buildout/branches/tlotze-download-api: removed branch that has been merged for a long time15:34
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CIA-82witsch 2.13 * r118863 Zope/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fix `LazyMap` to avoid unnecessary function calls when not accessing items in order (fixes http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/9018)16:18
CIA-82witsch 2.12 * r118864 Zope/ (3 files in 3 dirs): back-port c118863 from 2.1316:18
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CIA-82tlotze 1.4 * r118865 zc.buildout/ (3 files in 2 dirs): in the download module, fixed the handling of directories that are pointed to by file-system paths and URLs16:32
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CIA-82multani * r118866 /z3c.testsetup/branches/multani-patches: New branches for some fixes I made16:48
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* Charlie_X coughs.17:03
janjaapdriessenCharlie_X: Hi there.17:03
Charlie_XAnyone else around?17:04
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Charlie_Xjanjaapdriessen: Could you summarise the recent work with the buildbots? If I've got things right - more tests are running and these are showing up more errors particularly when running on windows. Is that correct?17:05
janjaapdriessenCharlie_X: That was mostly Adam's work on the winbot if I am not mistaken17:06
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* agroszer present with one foot17:06
Charlie_XYes. But the failures have provoked fixes, haven't they?17:06
Charlie_XProgress of sorts.17:06
janjaapdriessenI updated some projects on the THA buildbot. Still have some failing builds on windows that I will look into.17:06
janjaapdriessenCharlie_X: True.17:07
agroszeryup that was me with winbot17:07
agroszerI guess those packages haven't had ANY bot testing them17:07
janjaapdriessenagroszer: the THA buildbot tests some of them but doesn't send the output to zope-tests@zope.org17:08
agroszerwell I was fed with forwarding the crap17:08
agroszer+up17:08
janjaapdriessenmaybe it should. We are talking about 1000+ builds in total though.17:08
janjaapdriessenagroszer: I can imagine.17:09
Charlie_XWe'll hopefully see more stuff when Theni gets back from holiday and jazzes up the e-mail.17:09
agroszernote winbot sends only the failures17:09
agroszerOKs not17:09
agroszerohhhh yes17:09
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agroszerCharlie_X, keep bugging theuni about that17:09
Charlie_XIs anyone around who can release zope.publisher for me? mgedmin17:09
agroszerI can do that too17:10
Charlie_Xagroszer: I'm reluctant to. He might bug me about some kind of svn blame integration to my bugtracker... ;-)17:10
agroszeror you get perm17:10
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Charlie_XI don't have an account and I don't know how to make a release.17:10
Charlie_XProbably not a wise move to start today.17:11
agroszernagut, for this one I'll do it for you17:11
Charlie_XTa, muchly!17:11
agroszeryou commited the changelog and everything?17:11
Charlie_XYep.17:12
agroszerk17:12
Charlie_XIf you've never experienced the bug it fixes consider yourself lucky.17:12
agroszergotta run now17:13
agroszerbbl17:13
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Charlie_XAny thoughts on the next bug day? For me it doesn't make sense before the New Year.17:23
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agroszerCharlie_X, quite busy days17:30
Charlie_XYeah. Though the first week of January is generally quiet. At least here in Germany the customers are normally still on holiday.17:31
agroszeror counting their stock ;-)17:32
agroszerI'll try to fix the winbot failures whenever I get there17:32
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agroszerCharlie_X, release done17:41
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agroszersorry I didn't credit you, but using zest.releaser is just great17:41
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Charlie_Xagroszer: no credit needed.17:42
Charlie_XAnd I guess I should learn how to do releases.17:42
agroszervery easy17:43
agroszerwith zest.releaser17:43
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agroszerinstall it17:43
agroszercd to the package17:43
agroszerfullrelease17:44
agroszerit will figure everything and ask you Y/N questions17:44
agroszer99% of the time you just hit enter,enter17:44
janjaapdriessenagroszer: And you'll upload your company package to the pypi :) (happened to me once). No kidding, I like zest.releaser a lot.17:45
agroszerjanjaapdriessen, we've built in a bit of code into our setup.py to avoid this17:47
agroszerjanjaapdriessen, http://pypi.python.org/pypi/mypypi/1.0.317:47
agroszerand we use keas.build17:47
agroszereven less hassle with releases17:48
Charlie_Xagroszer: thanks for the link.17:48
agroszerCharlie_X, welcome, I guess I need to make a talk about private package management for a *con17:48
CIA-82adamg * r118867 zope.publisher/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Preparing release 3.12.517:49
CIA-82adamg * r118868 /zope.publisher/tags/3.12.5: Tagging 3.12.517:49
CIA-82adamg * r118869 zope.publisher/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Back to development: 3.12.617:49
janjaapdriessenagroszer: nice to see mypypi, we use collective.eggproxy + a post-tag hook on the server that creates dists. mypypi looks better.17:50
agroszerand is zope3, errr ZTK17:50
janjaapdriessenagroszer: I'll look into this.17:51
agroszer;-)17:51
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Charlie_Xagroszer: surely zope 3 is a bit big just for an index? That is exactly the sort of specialised service where I would expect to use BFG/Pyramid. Note, just thinking aloud not criticising.17:52
Charlie_Xagroszer: Europython in Florence if they ever get round to announcing it.17:53
agroszerwell, I think it was just a LOT easier for us to take the parts and throw it together17:53
agroszerthan trying to build the same while learning bfg17:54
agroszerOTOH it runs fine while using 50-100MB RAM17:54
Charlie_Xagroszer: sure.17:55
Charlie_XGulp17:55
agroszertho very low traffic ;-)17:55
Charlie_XMight indeed be an interesting project to learn BFG and see what happened with memory.17:55
Charlie_XAt some point pypi is going to have to be replaced. Apparently buildout has led to it being hammered by requests in a way for which it was never conceived.17:56
agroszerI'm sorry to say but the only thing that might bring me to bfg is GAE17:56
agroszerotherwise it also has some mind-bogging stuff in it17:57
agroszerlike putting crazy things into the request object17:57
Charlie_Xwell, being able to run something like a private package index on GAE is probably something worthwhile.17:57
Charlie_Xagroszer: does BFG do anything more with the request object than webob?17:58
agroszerI don't know now by heart what made me go crazy, but something weird was stored on the request...17:59
Charlie_XThere's lot of stuff I don't know. Just thinking about your package server as a good example of something that BFG would be good at - make an application from largely existing libraries.17:59
Charlie_Xagroszer: maybe the fact that you can get the context from the request?17:59
Charlie_XAnyway. I'm not here evangelising.18:00
agroszernext time I'll drop you a mail ;-)18:00
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CIA-82adamg * r118870 z3c.language.negotiator/buildout.cfg: remove that find-links18:38
CIA-82adamg * r118871 zope.wineggbuilder/project-list.cfg: no test in zope.broken18:38
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CIA-82hannosch * r118872 Zope/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Forward ported c118863 from 2.13 branch19:20
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CIA-82hannosch * r118873 /zopetoolkit/doc/source/releaseteam/ (meeting-20101123.rst meeting-20101207.rst): Style, spelling :)20:32
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CIA-82hannosch * r118874 zope.security/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Prepare zope.security 3.8.0.21:06
CIA-82hannosch * r118875 /zope.security/tags/3.8.0: Tagged zope.security 3.8.0.21:06
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CIA-82hannosch * r118876 zope.security/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): vb21:19
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j-w_hannosch: sorry sorry, lost track of time...21:26
hannoschj-w_: nah, we said 20:30 last week and in the protocol :)21:26
j-w_really??21:26
j-w_ow21:26
j-w_well, right on time!21:26
j-w_:)21:26
hannoschexactly. ccomb isn't here yet either21:27
CIA-82hannosch * r118880 zope.container/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Prepare zope.container 3.12.0.21:32
CIA-82hannosch * r118881 /zope.container/tags/3.12.0: Tagged zope.container 3.12.0.21:32
CIA-82hannosch * r118882 zope.container/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): vb21:32
CIA-82hannosch * r118883 zope.dublincore/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Prepare zope.dublincore 3.8.1.21:32
CIA-82hannosch * r118884 /zope.dublincore/tags/3.8.1: Tagged zope.dublincore 3.8.1.21:32
CIA-82hannosch * r118885 zope.dublincore/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): vb21:32
CIA-82hannosch * r118886 zope.traversing/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Prepare zope.traversing 3.13.1.21:32
CIA-82hannosch * r118887 /zope.traversing/tags/3.13.1: Tagged zope.traversing 3.13.1.21:32
CIA-82hannosch * r118888 zope.traversing/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): vb21:32
CIA-82hannosch * r118889 zopetoolkit/ztk-versions.cfg: Update to new releases21:32
j-w_hannosch: LOL - I was about to ask you saw my mail21:34
hannoschj-w_: yes I did :) all packages released21:34
j-w_cool21:34
j-w_had time to look into the 'do we depend on distribute behaviour'-issue?21:34
* agroszer just running by21:35
hannoschj-w_: yep. it's basically all documented at http://packages.python.org/distribute/python3.html21:35
agroszerthat releases will hopefully make winbot green21:35
hannoschyou do need distribute to run anything on Python 3. but it doesn't introduce any dependency for Python 2.x21:35
j-w_ok21:35
j-w_good21:35
hannoschso we are all fine. no need to offend anyone on zope-dev :)21:36
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j-w_hannosch: right21:38
j-w_hannosch: uhm21:38
j-w_what shall we do21:38
hannoschhhm. well, we basically talked about the open tasks. both of them are resolved21:38
j-w_there's the point of upping all versions21:38
j-w_moving forward to something 1.1-ish21:38
hannoschah, that's done. I just ran bin/checkversions again and updated to all latest21:39
j-w_are there any obstacles we need to resolve when we would want to move towards a 1.1?21:39
hannoschccomb had done the major work already a couple weeks ago21:39
j-w_ah, he did!21:39
j-w_good21:39
hannoschI think we have that one zope.proxy vs. Python 2.7 issue. I believe that should be fixed with Python 2.7.221:40
j-w_ok21:40
hannoschotherwise buildout vs. virtualenv is a topic21:40
j-w_yes...21:40
j-w_there were a couple of buildout-related packages that erroneously used -S21:40
j-w_when calling the python interpreter21:41
j-w_(partially my fault)21:41
j-w_compattest springs to mind21:41
hannoschright, did Jan-Jaap commit his changes to the test script?21:41
j-w_he did something + a release21:41
j-w_let me check what that was again21:41
hannoschok. for me none of the ztk tests run, as I have my Python in a virtualenv :)21:42
hannoschz3c.recipe.compattest 0.13 (2010-10-07)21:43
j-w_compattest21:43
hannoschthat's the latest release21:43
j-w_yes, right :)21:43
j-w_ow, no it is not21:43
j-w_janjaap was about to release 0.13.121:43
j-w_not sure now he did21:43
hannoschah, then he should do it - that should allow me to run tests again :)21:44
j-w_no he didn't, I'll ask him about that tomorrow morning21:44
hannoschcool21:44
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hannoschok. I think we have all tasks covered. I suggest we meet again next year and enjoy a x-mas break :)21:45
j-w_ok21:46
j-w_yes!21:46
j-w_next meeting 04/01/11?21:46
hannoschsounds good to me21:46
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j-w_next week you'll be at gocept, do I remember that correctly?21:46
hannoschalmost, Theuni will be in Berlin21:47
j-w_hehehehe21:47
j-w_ok anyway, good luck with that21:47
hannoschthx. and happy cold time of the year :)21:48
j-w_thank you21:48
j-w_happy holiday21:48
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CIA-82hannosch * r118890 zopetoolkit/ztk-versions.cfg: Update to latest version21:49
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CIA-82hannosch * r118891 zopetoolkit/ztk.cfg: Add a source definition for the compattest recipe22:07
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