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| davetoo | How many folks actually develop/deploy Zope on MS windows, I wonder? | 04:20 |
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| nitrogenycs | I am developing on windows and deploying on linux, not sure about other people | 04:33 |
| davetoo | *nod* | 04:34 |
| davetoo | I'm just trying to work with an existing zope-based product; not part of the team but learning the code and developing some suppor tools (Zenoss) | 04:35 |
| davetoo | I have a windows-only UML tool that I'm trying to use to reverse-engineer some of the code to UML | 04:35 |
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| kosh | I doubt that many people deploy to windows or even develop on it | 04:42 |
| kosh | since zope historically has had poor windows support because someone decides to work on it, and once they get it working well on windows they decide to run it on a unix anyways since it works even better | 04:43 |
| kosh | and then the cycle repeats | 04:43 |
| davetoo | aye | 04:45 |
| davetoo | And perhaps there's another way for me to generate class diagrams; it's just that I spent money on this tool :) | 04:46 |
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| kosh | ah I have tried to play with a few uml tools that can read python and overall I have not liked uml at all | 04:46 |
| kosh | I found it very poor | 04:46 |
| davetoo | but actually, I think I've just learned that this tool doesn't actually use a python interpreter but their own internal parser, so I could just export my running zope instance via Samba and be done with it | 04:47 |
| davetoo | yeah, I dont' expect to be able to get something rigorously correct, and if I could, it would be too big. | 04:48 |
| davetoo | but sometimes it helps me figure out what the heck is going on | 04:48 |
| kosh | I think I used dia on linux and that seemed to work pretty well, it just did not seem very useful | 04:49 |
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| kosh | overall most free software stuff does not have very good windows support | 05:14 |
| kosh | since windows seems to make it so much harder to develop | 05:14 |
| davetoo | aye | 05:14 |
| kosh | and windows still seems to have many stability issues when under load | 05:15 |
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| krohit | hi all | 09:40 |
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| krohit | is zope 2.12 is supported for 64 bit windows as a service? | 09:41 |
| krohit | can i run zope as a windows service? | 09:41 |
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| j-w | hi ccomb | 21:27 |
| j-w | ccomb: no hannosch yet? | 21:27 |
| ccomb | j-w: hi! | 21:28 |
| j-w | ccomb: give me a few minutes - i'm demanded upstairs to read a bedtime story :) | 21:28 |
| ccomb | :) | 21:28 |
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| ccomb | hi hannosch | 21:29 |
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| hannosch | ccomb, j-w: hi | 21:29 |
| ccomb | j-w is reading a bedtime story upstairs :) | 21:29 |
| hannosch | oh, I want one too :) | 21:30 |
| ccomb | haha | 21:30 |
| ccomb | tell him when he's back | 21:30 |
| hannosch | ccomb: so did you release bb 1.0 now? or is that in the next days? | 21:31 |
| ccomb | it's imminent | 21:31 |
| ccomb | but not today | 21:31 |
| ccomb | too much work | 21:31 |
| hannosch | sure, just asking :) | 21:31 |
| ccomb | the only new stuff will be the homepage :) | 21:32 |
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| hannosch_ | gah, my isp sucks | 21:34 |
| ccomb | I must be drunk I'm seeing hannosch twice | 21:34 |
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| j-w | hi ccomb, hannosch | 21:38 |
| j-w | back now | 21:38 |
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| hannosch | I'm here as well | 21:38 |
| hannosch | do we have any agenda at all? | 21:39 |
| j-w | right agenda | 21:39 |
| * j-w looking at past emais | 21:39 | |
| j-w | emails | 21:39 |
| hannosch | we could talk about ztk 1.1 - when we want it and what should be in it | 21:40 |
| j-w | yes, 1.1 | 21:40 |
| ccomb | I remember I had updated all the versions in the trunk | 21:40 |
| j-w | and the windows-buildbot give troubles in THA's buildbot setup | 21:41 |
| hannosch | windows always gives trouble for repeated jobs | 21:41 |
| j-w | apparently yes | 21:41 |
| j-w | it is sucking away time, these windows buildslaves | 21:42 |
| j-w | anyway | 21:42 |
| hannosch | sure. if it's too much, feel free to reduce the scope and test less | 21:42 |
| hannosch | you are already doing a lot | 21:42 |
| j-w | well, janjaap is, if it comes to windows buildslaves | 21:43 |
| hannosch | yep. make sure he stays sane - if he gets all upset and grumpy, tell him to stop doing Windows ;) | 21:43 |
| j-w | I will and I have :) | 21:43 |
| j-w | the z3c.compattest release wel talked about last time, that is done indeed | 21:44 |
| j-w | you released a few packages that other package's trunk relied on | 21:44 |
| hannosch | right. I think we finished all the tasks we signed up for | 21:44 |
| j-w | so, I guess if we up the version on the trunk, we're in fact close to 1.1, right? | 21:44 |
| hannosch | do we want any of the zope.app.wsgi refactoring in it? | 21:45 |
| hannosch | several people had interest in that | 21:45 |
| j-w | ow, not sure I know what that means? | 21:45 |
| j-w | something I should catch up with on zope-dev? | 21:46 |
| hannosch | jinty said he might be interested in cleaning things up in combination with zope.testbrowser | 21:46 |
| hannosch | janjaap said he'd be interested | 21:46 |
| j-w | aha, right | 21:46 |
| hannosch | and I thought it's one zope.app dependency Grok wanted to get rid of in some way | 21:46 |
| j-w | well, it is more the .app. part in the name | 21:47 |
| kosh | what does removing Products.BTreeFolder2 etc from 2.14 mean for those of us that use them? | 21:47 |
| j-w | but the things in there are really being used by grok | 21:47 |
| hannosch | kosh: I'll answer your mail in a bit - meeting now :) | 21:47 |
| j-w | i'm looking more at zope.app.appsetup if it comes to trying to get rid of | 21:48 |
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| hannosch | ah right. that's a beast | 21:48 |
| j-w | as it contains code that grok isn't using | 21:48 |
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| j-w | ccomb: BB using zope.app.appsetup I guess? | 21:48 |
| ccomb | not sure | 21:49 |
| j-w | it is bootstrapping stuf that grok might want to do slightly different, like for example the error reporting utility | 21:49 |
| j-w | that still is very much geared towards a ZMI | 21:49 |
| ccomb | there is no zmi in blulebream | 21:49 |
| j-w | ok | 21:50 |
| ccomb | but I see the dependency anyway | 21:50 |
| hannosch | I'd guess Grok would want to copy some parts of that policy into the grok package itself | 21:50 |
| j-w | yes | 21:50 |
| j-w | ccomb: appsetup also ensure there's an Application root folder in the ZODB | 21:50 |
| j-w | when the ZODB is bootstrapped | 21:50 |
| j-w | and some grok people played with an option to run grok without ZODB | 21:51 |
| j-w | (when using an ORM for example and also the GAE got renewed interest en pypy as well - platforms for which the ZODB might be problematic in some way) | 21:51 |
| j-w | i have the feeling we should not wait for zope.app.wsgi refactorings for ztk-1.1 | 21:52 |
| j-w | and we can easily do a 1.2 if the wsgi refactorings land earlier than expected, right? | 21:52 |
| hannosch | I'm planning a Zope 2.14 release with ztk 1.1 sometime in the next 3-6 months | 21:52 |
| j-w | grok is moving towards 1.4 soonish | 21:53 |
| j-w | (weeks rather than months) | 21:53 |
| hannosch | I could as well go for a ztk 1.2 for zope 2.14 though | 21:53 |
| j-w | and 1.1 might be interesting there too | 21:53 |
| j-w | as grok overrides some versions alread | 21:53 |
| j-w | already | 21:53 |
| hannosch | right. so does zope 2.13 | 21:53 |
| hannosch | I don't have a problem with aiming for a ztk 1.1 in 4-6 weeks or so | 21:54 |
| j-w | cool | 21:54 |
| hannosch | we can just announce the plan on zope-dev, give people some time to respond and then do it | 21:54 |
| j-w | even though i hope grok 1.4 will be there sooner than that | 21:54 |
| j-w | but that's not a problem, it would've been nice, but no problem | 21:54 |
| hannosch | even sooner? you guys are in release-mania :) | 21:55 |
| j-w | yes the announcement sounds fine | 21:55 |
| j-w | hannosch: hehehehehe, yeah well | 21:55 |
| j-w | there's some momentum back again | 21:55 |
| hannosch | well, if it helps grok, I don't mind doing a ztk release in a week even | 21:55 |
| j-w | well, if the tests all pass with upped versions and all, why not? | 21:55 |
| j-w | but again, it would not really be a problem to have grok 1.4 on ztk 1.0.x | 21:56 |
| * hannosch cannot think of any good reason | 21:56 | |
| j-w | let's do it! :-) | 21:56 |
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| hannosch | j-w: you wanna tell zope-dev? | 21:56 |
| ccomb | 1.1? | 21:57 |
| hannosch | ccomb: yes | 21:57 |
| j-w | hannosch: ok | 21:57 |
| hannosch | drops Python 2.4 support, finally! :) | 21:57 |
| ccomb | :P | 21:57 |
| j-w | :-) | 21:57 |
| hannosch | we only said we'd keep it until end of last year :) | 21:57 |
| hannosch | new year, new fun | 21:57 |
| j-w | except for an updated version list, what more changed: python2.4 out, python2.7 in, anything else? | 21:58 |
| j-w | deprecated quite some more zope.app. stuff | 21:58 |
| hannosch | the ztk is just a version list, there's not much else that can change ;) | 21:58 |
| j-w | indeed | 21:58 |
| j-w | well, some policy decisions of course | 21:58 |
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| j-w | ok, i'll write a short heads up that we would like to do a release somewhere next week | 21:59 |
| hannosch | great! | 21:59 |
| hannosch | I'll try to go through the version diff and write some high-level change notes | 22:00 |
| j-w | that would be very nice | 22:00 |
| hannosch | the readme.txt in trunk is a good place, I'd guess | 22:00 |
| j-w | yes | 22:00 |
| hannosch | are there still problems with buildout 1.5? many people complaining, or did that calm down? | 22:01 |
| j-w | aha, right, well, i think people calmed down | 22:01 |
| j-w | but i'm not 100% sure all problems are gone | 22:01 |
| j-w | we had some virtualenv related reports | 22:02 |
| hannosch | ok. if there's some problems left, we can all fix those together | 22:02 |
| j-w | but that was the -S issue | 22:02 |
| j-w | yeah | 22:02 |
| j-w | we should test the ztk in both a virtualenv and with a "system" python | 22:03 |
| j-w | or a custom compiled python | 22:03 |
| j-w | and see if that works | 22:03 |
| hannosch | I have my Python in a virtualenv, I'll test that part | 22:03 |
| j-w | i'm usually not using a virtualenv but a custom python install with hardly anything in it | 22:03 |
| j-w | but testing in a ubuntu system python is easy enough for me as well | 22:04 |
| j-w | i'll do the custom python install part | 22:04 |
| hannosch | mine is a python build via a buildout and then wrapped into a virtualenv :) | 22:04 |
| j-w | :) | 22:04 |
| kosh | I normally use a system python on a virtual server | 22:04 |
| j-w | all these hoops... :) | 22:04 |
| hannosch | j-w: Florian Schulze did this, it works on Macs, I'm lazy and use it :) | 22:05 |
| j-w | :-) | 22:05 |
| hannosch | ok. we have a plan, meeting next week to talk about the 1.1 release or do / celebrate it? | 22:06 |
| j-w | ok! | 22:06 |
| j-w | ccomb: you ok with next week? | 22:06 |
| j-w | tuesday again? | 22:06 |
| * ccomb checking | 22:06 | |
| hannosch | or swamped with work? I'd totatlly understand :) | 22:06 |
| ccomb | yes! | 22:07 |
| ccomb | ok for next tuesday | 22:07 |
| hannosch | otherwise j-w and me could meet and just do the release sometime next week | 22:07 |
| hannosch | aha, cool. 20:30 + len(bedtime story) ? | 22:07 |
| ccomb | :) | 22:07 |
| j-w | :) | 22:07 |
| j-w | ok! | 22:08 |
| hannosch | great, thanks guys! | 22:08 |
| j-w | thanks! | 22:08 |
| ccomb | bye! | 22:08 |
| * hannosch misses the coffee and cookies from the early meetings, bye ;) | 22:08 | |
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