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| _mup_ | Bug #673718 was filed: Remove dependency on zope.formlib <zope.mimetype:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/673718 > | 09:56 |
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| _mup_ | Bug #570942 was filed: InterfaceClass __cmp method obtains module name incorrectly <zope.interface:Confirmed> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/570942 > | 09:56 |
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| _mup_ | Bug #558501 was filed: zope.configuration swallowing expat parser errors <zope.configuration:Confirmed for ct-gocept> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/558501 > | 09:56 |
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| Phazorx | morning | 11:34 |
| Phazorx | is there life on this planet? | 11:34 |
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| waldi | no, earth is extinct | 11:41 |
| Phazorx | planet #zope was i reffering to actualy... at least intelegence presence here :) | 11:42 |
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| Phazorx | is the project still active? | 11:42 |
| Phazorx | or most devs moved to sometihng liek grog or the likes? | 11:43 |
| betabug | planetzope.org? | 11:43 |
| betabug | or zope? | 11:43 |
| betabug | zope is active | 11:43 |
| Phazorx | zope :) | 11:43 |
| betabug | there's a dev meeting in here, every wednesday or so | 11:43 |
| Phazorx | betabug: i see both zope2/3 have 2.X python tree as dependancies... is it in process of updating to 3 or that is not even on the menu | 11:43 |
| Phazorx | betabug: ah i see | 11:43 |
| betabug | dunno | 11:44 |
| betabug | there is dev work being done, but not by me | 11:44 |
| betabug | I'm just a lowly "consumer" who tries to help out on #zope a bit | 11:44 |
| Phazorx | is the website out of date then?most artifles there are 2006/2007 | 11:44 |
| betabug | yeah, zope.org is out of date, there's zope2.zope.org I think | 11:45 |
| Phazorx | well i might join you here on same grounds if i manage to convivce rest of devs that this is a viable platform to build on | 11:45 |
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| kosh | moving zope to 3.x is going to be a while into the future and a lot of work | 12:04 |
| betabug | hey kosh | 12:04 |
| kosh | most major python frameworks have a long time before they move over | 12:04 |
| kosh | betabug: you are finally here! | 12:04 |
| * kosh sets betabug on fire | 12:04 | |
| betabug | kosh: haven't had time to try anything of your stuff yet :-( | 12:05 |
| kosh | so did you try my blob stuff? | 12:05 |
| kosh | ah darn | 12:05 |
| betabug | nope :-( | 12:05 |
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| betabug | things have been busy over the holidays and new year | 12:05 |
| kosh | I even put a post on the mailing list and nobody has replied to it | 12:05 |
| betabug | damn | 12:05 |
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| kosh | they said originally I should post it as a patch so I did and no replies back | 12:05 |
| betabug | my plan was to make a fresh install, put in a copy of our production data.fs and see it float / go down in flames (whichever comes first) | 12:06 |
| kosh | so far I have not run into a single problem, probably going to put it into production soon | 12:06 |
| kosh | been running lots of tests | 12:07 |
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| kosh | and it has certainly helped | 12:13 |
| kosh | anything with Files or Image object stuff should speed up nicely if you have zope setup correctly | 12:13 |
| kosh | lower memory usage and faster file serving | 12:13 |
| betabug | and improved start / reindex / pack times | 12:14 |
| kosh | that part I have not tested, mine all start in a second or so anyways | 12:15 |
| betabug | well, when I had to bring some stuff back from an old backup (point in time on a heap of repoze files), it had to start up without an index file... that took a while :-) | 12:16 |
| betabug | when the index is up to date, it's fast | 12:16 |
| kosh | ah that | 12:16 |
| Phazorx | kosh: i see... my question was actualy more on practical side | 12:16 |
| Phazorx | as in would it break if it is deployed on 3.0 | 12:17 |
| Phazorx | or 3.X | 12:17 |
| betabug | Phazorx: the thing with zope and python versions is that usually any change requires a lot of testing of the security stuff | 12:17 |
| kosh | Phazorx: zope will not work with python 3.x in any way | 12:17 |
| betabug | as we have something called a "restricted python" environment for Thru-The-Web stuff | 12:17 |
| betabug | so Py3 with Zope is probably some way off still | 12:18 |
| kosh | even without that there is no way it would work | 12:18 |
| kosh | the c extensions won't work, lots of the code is not even valid in 3.x | 12:18 |
| kosh | python 3.x is a huge ammount of work for any large project | 12:18 |
| kosh | even pure python stuff like twisted will not work with 3.x and that is going to take a while to port | 12:19 |
| kosh | redefining all strings to unicode will also break things | 12:19 |
| kosh | 3.x is extremely different then 2.x, it is no simple upgrade | 12:20 |
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| kosh | Phazorx: it will be a long time before major projects work on 3.x, they made the upgrade a very hard one | 12:21 |
| * kosh blames betabug | 12:26 | |
| betabug | pour all the blame on me | 12:30 |
| betabug | with my "it works, why change it" attitude I resisted all change! | 12:30 |
| kosh | heh I agree with that | 12:31 |
| kosh | a change in 2.14 might break some code I have but it will be a bitch to trace down | 12:31 |
| kosh | if you do a catalog search now with no search parameters the catalog will no return no results instead of a the full result set | 12:31 |
| kosh | so container.SomeCatalog() used to return everything now it returns nothing | 12:32 |
| kosh | I don't get why they change how things work | 12:33 |
| kosh | it has been that for MANY years, changing it could easily break code that is around and finding that code could seriously suck | 12:34 |
| betabug | kosh: hahahaha | 12:41 |
| betabug | in fact that was changed back and forth a couple of times | 12:41 |
| betabug | in some zope versions (minor ones I think) they changed it, then people protested and they changed it back | 12:41 |
| betabug | I think I have code in some project where I check for it and make sure I get a certain behaviour | 12:42 |
| kosh | hehe | 12:42 |
| kosh | when they changed how getObject() worked to raise exceptions instead of returning None what I did was write an iterator that I stick in the root of every site and use that | 12:43 |
| kosh | and made every catalog access go through those | 12:43 |
| kosh | since nothing other then a bare except accessible in normal python scripts I could find would catch it | 12:44 |
| kosh | so if you hit an object that is security restricted you got a prompt during iteration instead of just dropping the result | 12:44 |
| kosh | so my iterator will just drop all those items | 12:45 |
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| kosh | I Just don't like behavior changes | 12:46 |
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| hever | Is any kind of pythons IF available in via tal ? | 17:01 |
| mgedmin | if you've got python 2.5 or newer, you can do tal:content="python: X if condition else Y" | 17:06 |
| mgedmin | if you've got 2.4, you have to do nasty nasty hacks like "python: condition and X or Y", which works only if bool(X) is True | 17:07 |
| hever | mgedmin, Is assignment in python: possible? | 17:10 |
| mgedmin | no | 17:10 |
| mgedmin | to get assignment you do tal:define | 17:10 |
| hever | I've todo "s = s[3:] if s.startswith('xyz') else s" | 17:10 |
| hever | hmm. can I return values? | 17:11 |
| mgedmin | tal:define="s_no_prefix python: s[3:] if s.startswith('xyz') else s" | 17:11 |
| mgedmin | at this point let me ask you: why are you doing this in tal, and not in python? | 17:11 |
| betabug | mgedmin: took you some time :-) | 17:11 |
| betabug | I'd have asked much faster | 17:12 |
| hever | we'll I'm in a page template on the filesystem... | 17:13 |
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| betabug | which means that page template is called from some python method | 17:14 |
| betabug | which means you should do the work in that python method | 17:14 |
| hever | I'm not sure about that I'm chaning the return value of res.getPhysicalPath | 17:15 |
| hever | mgedmin, I tried this kind of if already and I don't understand your second one... | 17:17 |
| mgedmin | I don't know what to say | 17:21 |
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| mgedmin | actually, I don't know what exactly you're referring to by "my second one" | 17:21 |
| hever | oh I'm sorry... I just meant I tried your first if-example already myself and I don't understand your second if-example. | 17:23 |
| mgedmin | the and/or thing? | 17:23 |
| hever | yes | 17:23 |
| mgedmin | you don't need to understand it, you need to avoid it :) | 17:23 |
| hever | ;) I agree ;) | 17:24 |
| mgedmin | if you're curious, see, e.g. http://diveintopython.org/power_of_introspection/and_or.html#d0e9975 | 17:24 |
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| hever | mgedmin, ok my fault was to have a whitespace after the semikolon after the python expression ;) The first if works, too ;) Thank you | 17:32 |
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| CIA-78 | Currently the application needs to do some gymnastics to be 100% compatible | 23:55 |
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