IRC log of #zope for Friday, 2011-02-11

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CIA-85kteague * r120268 ldappas/setup.py: Add required import for read() function00:39
CIA-85kteague * r120269 ldappas/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Preparing release 0.8.300:39
CIA-85kteague * r120270 /ldappas/tags/0.8.3: Tagging 0.8.300:39
CIA-85kteague * r120271 ldappas/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Back to development: 0.8.400:39
CIA-85kteague * r120272 ldappas/setup.py: Fix long_description for correct pypi formatting00:39
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planetzopebotPlone community mourns the loss of Dorneles Tremea (Plone News)  http://plone.org/news/community-mourns-dorneles-tremea01:04
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Gogo|guiHello, every 01!14:57
Gogo|guiI'm tracking down a ZODB problem.14:57
Gogo|guiI have an object that can not unpickle any more.14:57
Gogo|guiStrangely that object gets invoked upon installation of a Plone Product - - that's why I need to fix it - I want to install an "old style" product into Plone.14:59
Gogo|guiThing is: i tracked down which object it is.14:59
Gogo|guiThing is: i can not delete it, since it would try to de-serialize when i try manage_delObjects14:59
Gogo|guiQustion is: how could I delete that dead chicken without triggering its de-serialisation?15:00
planetzopebotPlone community mourns the loss of Dorneles Treméa (Plone News)  http://plone.org/news/community-mourns-dorneles-tremea15:04
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seppo14hi guys… anyone here using LocalFS with latest zope2.1315:47
seppo14?15:47
seppo14when adding new files I get "Error Type: PicklingError15:48
seppo14Error Value: Can't pickle <class 'Products.LocalFS.LocalFS.ObjectWrapper'>: attribute lookup Products.LocalFS.LocalFS.ObjectWrapper failed"15:48
betabugseppo14: not me, but I'd guess it needs a patch or two15:48
seppo14i patched what's mentioned in the wiki15:48
betabugIIRC there was something in the mailing list a couple of months ago15:48
seppo14but that doesn't do it...15:48
seppo14google doesn't give anything on the mailing list15:48
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koshbetabug: did you ever play with my blob stuff?15:49
betabugkosh: not yet :-(15:50
betabugbut I will!15:51
* kosh sends godzilla to destroy betabug's country15:51
betabugright now I'm baffled by a TypeError, unsubscriptable object, that doesn't leave a traceback anywhere15:51
betabuga thing that puts godzilla to shame15:52
betabugkosh: we have the IMF for destroying our country, no godzilla needed15:52
koshmaybe godzilla well get you free of the IMF15:52
betabugit could eat the politicians, that would be a start15:53
koshwhat about the bankers?15:53
betabugbut who has ever heard of a zope error that doesn't leave tracebacks at all???15:53
rockfruitthat would make good tv, the bankers15:53
betabugbankers will be in as a side dish15:53
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seppo14hmm searching on gmane doesn't bring anything related to localfs with latest z2 up15:58
seppo14is there a newer product compatible with z2.13?15:59
betabugseppo14: I looked in my local archive and couldn't spot it either15:59
betabugmaybe I'm confusing the product15:59
seppo14i want to store big image galleries15:59
seppo14and these shoudln't go into zodb15:59
betabugseppo14: try kosh's zope patch :-)16:00
betabugit puts image data into blog storage, but uses normal Image objects16:01
seppo14that's what I'm looking for16:01
seppo14where? :)16:01
* betabug points at kosh16:01
koshhttps://github.com/Immudzen/MonkeyOFSImageFile16:06
seppo14kosh thanks16:06
seppo14i'll give it a try16:06
koshyou just need to make sure you enable blob support in zope and then once that monkeypatch it put in all newly created objects will use blobs16:08
seppo14perfect16:08
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koshalso it can convert all existing files and pictures to blobs also16:12
koshmake sure you do a backup before hand, I have never had a problem with it and have been using it for a few months but try to be safe16:12
seppo14i will. it's just what i was looking for16:13
seppo14as we have a zodb with 10gb+ images16:13
seppo14and it's fucking slow right now16:13
seppo14;)16:13
seppo14which is no surprise16:13
koshfor my tests zope got WAY faster with blob support16:13
koshsending images/files is about 3-10x faster and they don't go in the zodb cache either16:14
seppo14do you by any chance know ZMS?16:15
koshno idea what that is16:16
koshmy patch works on the File and Image objects in zope and it shoudl work on everything that inherits from them but that I Have not tested16:16
betabugZMS is a content management system, running on zope16:17
seppo14ill look into their code16:17
betabugor "was", dunno if it still exists16:17
seppo14and see if the inherit from file/image16:17
seppo14in fact it does16:17
seppo14and they're quite active latel16:17
seppo14y16:17
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seppo14http://zmslabs.org/trac16:17
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koshseppo14: tell me if the blob stuff works for you and what kind of speedup you get16:37
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seppo14i will, but i guess i will try on monday next week16:38
seppo14currently migrating all servers to cloudbases virtual servers16:38
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seppo14cloudbased :)16:39
koshI migrated all my servers from regular rackspace servers to their cloud servers which are just virtual servers16:40
koshmost cloud stuff is not cloud in any way at all16:40
koshjust virtualized servers16:40
seppo14we're using jiffybox.de16:40
seppo14it's virtualized servers on xen16:40
seppo14i don't care wether it's real cloud or not. the speed is amazing, their webinterface too and support.16:41
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koshI do like the rackspace one also, I can start a new server from a backup in a few minutes16:41
seppo14same at jiffybox16:41
seppo14or i can just duplicate existing servers16:42
seppo14the keep 4 backups of each machine which is better than what we had with our regular servers16:42
seppo14and we cut down costs to the half with the virtual servers16:42
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koshseppo14: if you run into problems with it let me know, and also help me set betabug on fire for not testing it sooner :)17:01
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seppo14i will give it a try tomorrow and report back17:02
seppo14i have to import all content first from the old servers17:02
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npmccallumI have an application which needs to pass authentication requests into another application built on zope/PAS.  I can't really store the passwords unhashed, so how can I access the password hashes in PAS directly?17:09
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seppo14uhm @kosh do you have the original zope.conf with the blob storage lines?17:22
seppo14i can't find them...17:22
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koshseppo14: just a moment I will modify the readme.txt file on github for that17:29
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CIA-85janjaapdriessen * r120273 groktoolkit/grok.cfg: Don't list zope.errorview twice.17:34
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koshseppo14: okay README file is updated17:34
seppo14tnx17:36
koshno problem17:38
koshI have only tested it with 2.13 but it shoudl work with 2.12 also just fine17:38
seppo14hmm i'm not using zeo… at least my zope conf looks different17:39
koshwithout zeo I don't know, I have never tried without zeo17:41
seppo14i'll look into it...17:42
seppo14:)17:42
koshI use zeo for all my setups so that I can shutdown one zope server and not interrupt a site17:42
koshI use nginx in front of zope to load balance17:42
betabugI use zeo to have two server in different countries :-)17:43
seppo14:)17:43
seppo14i don't need zeo for testing here17:43
seppo14but it works now17:43
seppo14<zodb_db main>17:43
seppo14  <blobstorage>17:43
seppo14    <filestorage>17:43
seppo14      path $INSTANCE/var/Data.fs17:43
seppo14    </filestorage>17:43
seppo14    blob-dir $INSTANCE/blobs17:43
seppo14  </blobstorage>17:43
seppo14  mount-point /17:43
seppo14</zodb_db>17:43
betabuguhm, please don't paste stuff here17:43
seppo14sorry17:43
seppo14tought such a short passage might be ok ;)17:43
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seppo14kosh: you could add this to your readme for non-zeo-users17:44
seppo14kosh: just to get this right - do I simpy install this as a python package and then use the patch?17:47
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koshyou only install it as a zope product and it then works that is it17:50
koshthe script I put there just allows you to convert existing objects17:50
seppo14i don't have to apply the patch manually? i.e. patch -...17:51
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seppo14ok i see..17:56
koshnope it is a mokey patch17:57
koshwhich means it dynamically modifies what it needs to modify17:57
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seppo14in my case it did not...17:58
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seppo14i get Error Value: global name 'getImageInfo' is not defined when uploading a new image17:58
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koshwhat version of zope?17:59
seppo142.13.117:59
seppo14python 2.7.017:59
koshokay I can look in just a little bit then17:59
koshcould you put a full traceback in a pastebin?17:59
seppo14wait a sec, yes18:00
npmccallumAnyone around with familiarity as to the internal workings of PAS?18:00
seppo14http://pastebin.com/QdDHWMNE18:00
koshokay I think I know the problem, give me a bit, have an arena battle ina  game to finish :)18:00
seppo14:P18:00
seppo14first things first ;)18:00
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koshseppo14: okay the git verison is updated18:23
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seppo14thanks, i'll try18:26
koshI still wonder why it is working for me and not for you when that code is wrong as it was written so it is funny18:28
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seppo14yay18:32
seppo14it's working18:32
seppo14and cool, zms inherits from image18:32
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seppo14hmm with PIL it gives me "IOError: cannot identify image file"18:34
koshthis does not depend on PIL in any way or use it18:37
koshwhat is the code that gives you that error?18:37
seppo14i know, sec...18:37
seppo14normal images and files are working fine18:38
seppo14i'm talking about the ZMS product we're using18:38
koshwhen you first install it nothing should happen to existing data18:38
seppo14I guess I'll have to look into their code18:38
koshonly new uploaded stuff will be changed or if you run that conversion script18:38
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seppo14ah i see, ZMS overrides _range_request_handler, _if_modified_since_request_handler,...18:51
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koshthat will require more serious work to fix19:06
koshboth of those had to be modified for blob support19:06
koshso if it modifes them also that will make things a lot more difficult19:06
seppo14the funny thing is - ZMS should have blob support. they call it "blob support".19:07
seppo14in fact they just save the files in the filesystem19:07
seppo14but they don't use ZODB.blob19:08
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koshI wonder if they made their own instead of using the ZODB stuff19:12
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seppo14http://pastebin.com/RrLwuS2L19:13
seppo14that's what they do, that's the relevant code in zms19:13
seppo14the build a MyBlob clas19:14
seppo14s19:14
seppo14and a MyImage that inherits from MyBlob19:14
seppo14MyImage Inherits from MyBlob,Image19:14
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seppo14myblob has it's own _if_modified_since_request_handler and _range_request_handler19:15
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seppo14I wonder what happens when I just remove these ..19:15
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koshthe whole world ends, you blow up every star and the same time and unravel the threads of reality!19:19
seppo14just happened..19:20
koshah well this universe was getting boring anyways19:23
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_mup_Bug #717289 was filed: add m4v to mime types <zope.contenttype:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/717289 >19:42
CIA-85tseaver * r120274 zope.generations/src: Fix ignore.19:45
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CIA-85jim 3.10 * r120275 ZODB/src/ (8 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)20:29
CIA-85Bugs Fixed20:29
CIA-85----------20:29
CIA-85- 3.10 introduced an optimization to try to address BTree conflict20:29
CIA-85errors arrising for basing BTree keys on object ids. The20:29
CIA-85optimization caused object ids allocated in aborted transactions to20:29
CIA-85be reused. Unfortunately, this optimzation led to some rather20:29
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CIA-85tseaver * r120276 zope.contenttype/ (CHANGES.txt src/zope/contenttype/mime.types): LP #717289: added 'video/x-m4v' mimetype for the '.m4v' extension.20:29
_mup_Bug #717289: add m4v to mime types <zope.contenttype:Fix Released by tseaver> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/717289 >20:29
CIA-85tseaver * r120277 zope.contenttype/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Prep 3.5.2 release.20:29
CIA-85tseaver * r120278 /zope.contenttype/tags/3.5.2: Tag 3.5.2 release.20:29
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CIA-85jim 3.10 * r120275 ZODB/src/ (8 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)21:28
CIA-85Bugs Fixed21:28
CIA-85----------21:28
CIA-85- 3.10 introduced an optimization to try to address BTree conflict21:28
CIA-85errors arrising for basing BTree keys on object ids. The21:28
CIA-85optimization caused object ids allocated in aborted transactions to21:28
CIA-85be reused. Unfortunately, this optimzation led to some rather21:28
CIA-85tseaver * r120276 zope.contenttype/ (CHANGES.txt src/zope/contenttype/mime.types): LP #717289: added 'video/x-m4v' mimetype for the '.m4v' extension.21:28
CIA-85tseaver * r120277 zope.contenttype/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Prep 3.5.2 release.21:28
CIA-85tseaver * r120278 /zope.contenttype/tags/3.5.2: Tag 3.5.2 release.21:28
_mup_Bug #717289: add m4v to mime types <zope.contenttype:Fix Released by tseaver> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/717289 >21:28
CIA-85tseaver * r120279 /zope.contenttype/tags/3.5.2: Typo in 3.5.2 release.21:28
CIA-85tseaver * r120280 zope.contenttype/src/zope/contenttype/mime.types: Typo.21:28
CIA-85tseaver * r120281 /zope.contenttype/tags/3.5.2: Re-tag 3.5.2 release.21:28
CIA-85tseaver * r120282 zope.contenttype/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): svb21:28
CIA-85tseaver * r120283 zopetoolkit/ztk-versions.cfg: Update zope.contenttype to pick op m4v fix.21:28
CIA-85jim 3.10 * r120284 ZODB/src/ (ZEO/tests/zeoserver.py BTrees/tests/test_compare.py):21:28
CIA-85merged ZODB/branches/tseaver-squelch_2.6_warnings to avoid a warning21:28
CIA-85while running tests.21:28
CIA-85tseaver * r120285 /ZODB/branches/tseaver-squelch_2.6_warnings: Merged21:28
CIA-85ldr * r120286 z3c.blobfile/ (CHANGES.txt src/z3c/blobfile/image.py): Put a ceiling (64k) on the number of info bytes read and read those bytes in one shot21:28
CIA-85ldr * r120287 z3c.blobfile/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Prepare z3c.blobfile 0.1.5.21:28
CIA-85ldr * r120288 /z3c.blobfile/tags/0.1.5: Tagged z3c.blobfile 0.1.5.21:28
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J1m_Is there a way to get original photos out of the cms?23:45
Moo-_J1m_: your question lacks considreable background information23:46
Moo-_please be more specific why and what you are doing23:46
J1m_crap, wrong window. Sorry23:46
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