IRC log of #zope for Friday, 2011-06-24

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MrTangohi, anybody here who knows how i can sync a zeo connection, to get the present state of the zodb?13:06
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MrTangoi'm in an eventhandler and have to wait for a change of the zodb object and then do some thing with it, but what ever i try, some times a can't get the present state of an object or otherwise can't get a new object, i try that in plone3 zodb 3.8, any suggestions?13:09
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betabugMrTango: are those changes perhaps happening in a different thread?13:13
MrTangomay be, is it nervertheless possible to get in sync?13:19
MrTangobetabug: if not, i could use 2 separate zeo instanzes with 1 thread, but only if i must ;)13:20
betabugwell, if they are from different requests that run at the same time, I don't think they will ever be in sync13:21
betabugthe transaction mechanism "avoids" that13:21
betabugI needed something similar for a specific case and in the end I had to commit the transaction in the script that was "sending the signal" (so to speak)13:22
betabugbecause as long as the changes in the transaction are not committed, the other thread will not "see" them13:22
MrTangothe changes are on other zeo client and i get a message over amqp and have to reindex this object on the second client, but i have to do this with present data ;)13:22
betabugwell, zeo or not doesn't matter here I think13:23
MrTangothe changes are commited13:23
MrTangoi see the incomming  invalidation message on the second client13:23
betabugthey are commited? hmmm, in that case the 2nd thread should "see" the changes13:23
bigkevmcdwell...if it reconnects?13:23
MrTangowhat you mean with reconnets?13:24
MrTangoi have tryed an transaction.abort() before i try to get the object, but doesn't work anytime13:25
bigkevmcdbetabug: I think it would only see the state of the commit if the client started a new transaction/connection13:25
MrTangosome times it helps if i trigger another request on this client with a page reload13:25
MrTangobigkevmcd: i know, thats why i'm doing an abort()13:26
MrTangoi have also tryed a connection.sync()13:26
betabugbigkevmcd: you could be right, it's been some time since I did this13:27
MrTangoa got the connection from my object if it exists, this seems to work better, but not to get new objects13:27
betabugmaybe if the 2nd thread commits its transaction too, it starts to see the new state?13:27
MrTangobetabug: i think commit is not enough, but an abort works better13:29
MrTangomya be it could be the mount point, the mount point is an zeo device ;)13:29
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koshbetabug: how goes life in your country?17:45
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planetzopebotPython multithreading (active questions tagged zope - Stack Overflow)  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6469462/python-multithreading19:08
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betabugkosh: life goes on20:21
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koshbetabug: I just wondered what it was like actually being there while the rest of the world runs around screaming the whole place is burning down20:50
koshI Just find that a lot of news is too sensationalist and not based much on reality anymore20:50
betabugyeah, the news are hopeless20:57
betabugthey wouldn't get things right if you smacked them in the face with the facts20:59
koshbut they would yell and scream that you hit them in the face21:07
koshand how horrible it is that such things happen21:07
koshapparently we have a big security update to apply on tuesday21:08
koshthe last time zope put out a security hotfix was in auguest 2008 ;)21:08
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betabugyeah, I wonder what it will be21:11
betabugand which versions of zope are affected, that's kind of mysterious in the description21:12
koshI hope the fix does not break compatibility on something I use commonly21:13
koshI really don't need to spend weeks fixing all sites, especially right now21:13
koshworking on moving right now, applying to the go back to the university etc21:14
koshI am heading back to college to get a degree in chemical and biological engineering21:14
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betabugkosh: cool!21:25
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koshyeah it looks like a good idea to me21:26
betabugyou can bread some new kinds of godzilla related creatures then :-)21:26
koshget away from doing this kind of programming and into something more useful21:26
koshooh that is a good point21:26
betabugputting a new dimension to wreaking havoc21:26
koshmostly I was thinking of all the cool biotech stuff like tissue regeneration, human augmentation, nanotech medicines etc21:26
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