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| planetzopebot | option to add new ZSQL method is not shown in Zope 2.13.6 (active questions tagged zope - Stack Overflow) http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6581474/option-to-add-new-zsql-method-is-not-shown-in-zope-2-13-6 | 15:08 |
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| hannosch | ccomb: whoo, it's been a while :) | 16:00 |
| ccomb | hannosch: o/ ! | 16:01 |
| * ccomb wonders whether we'll finally succeed in beeing 3 of us :) | 16:02 | |
| hannosch | ccomb: how's your business doing? you are insanely busy are starving to get any work? | 16:03 |
| hannosch | s/are/or are/ | 16:04 |
| ccomb | rather the former | 16:04 |
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| hannosch | well, that's good ;) | 16:04 |
| ccomb | doing the openerp part of a openerp+django app | 16:05 |
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| hannosch | ah cool, what platform is that based on? | 16:05 |
| ccomb | and I often wish both django and openerp were based on the zca | 16:05 |
| ccomb | but they're not :'( | 16:05 |
| ccomb | and also taking 4h of turkish course every morning | 16:07 |
| hannosch | ok, that's intense | 16:07 |
| ccomb | with homeworks every day :P | 16:07 |
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| ccomb | my brain is melting down and leaking some radioactive water | 16:08 |
| hannosch | uhm, lucky that cannot be transferred over IRC :) | 16:09 |
| ccomb | you mean RXoverIP ? :P | 16:09 |
| hannosch | we have a big icewall around Norway, you cannot penetrate that ;) | 16:10 |
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| ccomb | oh, what is the temperature on your side? | 16:11 |
| ccomb | here I'm quite suffering | 16:11 |
| hannosch | it's fine. we have like 19 degrees celsius. proper summer :) | 16:11 |
| hannosch | it goes up to 25 on very hot days | 16:11 |
| hannosch | the 20 hours of sunlight are nice | 16:12 |
| ccomb | mmmh, my wife was considering moving to norway just to live in a country with an acceptable t°C | 16:12 |
| hannosch | yep. the summers are really good, not too hot to be productive. and you can go to somewhere in the south if you want a week or two of being boiled | 16:13 |
| hannosch | but the winters with -25 can be hard | 16:13 |
| hannosch | but you can counter -25 with proper clothing, putting on more cloth is easy | 16:14 |
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| hannosch | anyways, did you hear anything from bluebream? or is that basically frozen since the 1.0 release? | 16:15 |
| ccomb | yes when you're cold you just have to put more clothers. When it's too hot and you're already almost naked, no remaining option | 16:15 |
| ccomb | unless finding an air conditionned place | 16:15 |
| ccomb | bb would need another release actually | 16:16 |
| hannosch | oh, what changed? | 16:16 |
| ccomb | just to stick with more recent versions of the ztk | 16:16 |
| ccomb | nothing more | 16:16 |
| hannosch | ok :) | 16:16 |
| ccomb | there is a little more activity in the list than a few months ago | 16:17 |
| ccomb | but no one demanding a 1.1 yet | 16:17 |
| yac | openerp looks interesting | 16:17 |
| ccomb | openerp is the perfect example of an more or less controlled emerging design, built only by the customer requirements | 16:18 |
| hannosch | ccomb: I think j-w won't make it, shall we just try to write some mails instead of trying to meet online? | 16:19 |
| yac | can be an alternative to eg. redmine or trac? | 16:19 |
| ccomb | hannosch: ok :) | 16:19 |
| ccomb | yac: it's not the same kind of app | 16:19 |
| yac | ccomb: it says project management on the label | 16:21 |
| ccomb | yac: yes there is even a scrum module | 16:21 |
| ccomb | a module for long term planning, etc. | 16:22 |
| ccomb | it's main advantage is to be integrated and homogenous, but dedicated apps are always more full featured and efficiant than an erp | 16:23 |
| ccomb | there is no interest in deploying openerp just for one module, say project management | 16:23 |
| * ccomb leaving, has to rewrite openerp on top of bluebream before tomorrow. #uglyjoke | 16:25 | |
| hannosch | bye! | 16:25 |
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| yac | ccomb: i think know a company who is writing very similar thing for themselfs | 16:27 |
| yac | only in php and on top of a decade old rotten code | 16:27 |
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| do3cc | ccomb: if you work with openerp, do you an opinion about that tryton fork? | 17:02 |
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| ccomb | do3cc: I've not yet had time to have a close look into trytron | 17:06 |
| ccomb | but I've heard it's more tested, more pep8, more cheeseshoppish, more eggified, more interoperable (several database backends) | 17:07 |
| ccomb | but it's missing the enormous momentum of openerp | 17:08 |
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| avnik | ccomb: existing database? ;) | 17:08 |
| do3cc | I noticed there is some badmouthing happening on openerphell.com so I was wondering what is really going on. but an erp system storing monetary values as floating point numbers is really something that makes me wonder | 17:09 |
| ccomb | badmouthing is always easy and works for any framework or app | 17:10 |
| do3cc | luckily this never happened with zope or plone | 17:12 |
| ccomb | :) | 17:12 |
| avnik | do3cc: even from django fan boys? ;) | 17:13 |
| yac | whats wrong with django fan boys? :) | 17:15 |
| ccomb | the last two words ;) | 17:16 |
| betabug | does openerp still generate 1000 byte (or whatever) GET requests? | 17:17 |
| ccomb | betabug: the web client, sure | 17:17 |
| betabug | aha | 17:17 |
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| ccomb | it's very few compared to the gigs browsers are able to support :) | 17:18 |
| ccomb | anyway they're in the process of rewriting the web client in full JS | 17:19 |
| betabug | well, I've heard a buddy complain about it leading to problems | 17:19 |
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| kosh | hail insane people | 17:44 |
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| Arfrever | TresEquis: ping | 19:02 |
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| TresEquis | Arfrever, pong | 19:06 |
| Arfrever | TresEquis: You have broken zope.interface with Python 3. See https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2011-June/043061.html and https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope.interface/+bug/804951 | 19:07 |
| _mup_ | Bug #804951: "TypeError: unhashable type: 'InterfaceClass'" in Python 3 <zope.interface:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/804951 > | 19:07 |
| TresEquis | Arfrever, I see the issue | 19:10 |
| TresEquis | I don't think using id(self) as the hash value is correct, however | 19:11 |
| TresEquis | items which compare equal are supposed to have the same hash value, too | 19:11 |
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| TresEquis | I think maybe we should be returning the hash of the same fully-qualified name we are testing inside __eq__ | 19:13 |
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| TresEquis | i.e, return hash(self.__name__) + hash(self.__module__) | 19:20 |
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| Arfrever | TresEquis: Maybe buildout doesn't run 2to3 on zope.interface. | 19:44 |
| TresEquis | it runs it, it just doesn't use the converted sources :( | 19:45 |
| Arfrever | TresEquis: You might use `python3 setup.py test`. | 19:45 |
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| TresEquis | tried that | 19:51 |
| TresEquis | setup.py develop does *not* run 2to3 | 19:51 |
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| TresEquis | setup.py test runs it (which takes *forever*) | 19:52 |
| TresEquis | and then fails anyway | 19:52 |
| Arfrever | TresEquis: What failure? | 19:52 |
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| Arfrever | TresEquis: If I run `python3 setup.py test` in zope.interface-3.6.2, then all tests pass for me. | 19:53 |
| TresEquis | File "/tmp/zi/src/zope.interface/src/zope/interface/interface.py", line 577 | 19:56 |
| TresEquis | exec "class %s: pass" % self.__name__ in klass | 19:56 |
| TresEquis | ^ | 19:56 |
| TresEquis | SyntaxError: invalid syntax | 19:56 |
| TresEquis | I'll try again with the non-virualenv Python3 | 19:57 |
| TresEquis | error: /tmp/zi/src/zope.interface/build/lib.linux-i686-3.2/zope/interface/tests/../README.txt: No such file or directory | 19:58 |
| TresEquis | I just blew away all the virtualenv and did this: | 20:00 |
| TresEquis | $ svn co $ZSVN/zope.interface/trunk zi | 20:00 |
| TresEquis | $ cd /tmp/zi | 20:00 |
| TresEquis | $ /opt/Python-3.2.0/bin/python3 setup.py test | 20:00 |
| TresEquis | which runs all the 2to3 stuff, and then | 20:01 |
| TresEquis | fails on TypeError: unhashable type: 'InterfaceClass' | 20:01 |
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| TresEquis | after I add __hash__, the tests all pass | 20:02 |
| TresEquis | so I will add coverage for __hash__ and declare vicotry | 20:03 |
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| Arfrever | TresEquis: It might be useful to also include fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope.interface/+bug/804832 in zope.interface-3.6.4. | 20:11 |
| _mup_ | Bug #804832: While installing on PyPy, zope.interface should not build the C extension <zope.interface:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/804832 > | 20:11 |
| TresEquis | that is a PyPy bug, not a z.i one | 20:14 |
| TresEquis | and there is no fix on that bug | 20:15 |
| Arfrever | TresEquis: I will attach my patch. | 20:16 |
| TresEquis | 3.6.4 is out the door already | 20:17 |
| TresEquis | but I will look at your patch | 20:17 |
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| Arfrever | TresEquis: I have attached my patch. | 20:23 |
| TresEquis | Arfrever, thanks, I'm looking at it | 20:24 |
| TresEquis | I still think there should be a PyPy bug entered | 20:24 |
| TresEquis | PyPy is building the C extension which segfaults | 20:24 |
| Arfrever | (platform.python_implementation() was introduced in Python 2.6.) | 20:25 |
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