IRC log of #zope for Friday, 2011-07-15

kittonianfor example, is there a way to say if it's only one thing and nothing else?00:00
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kittoniannevermind, i just set the order the way i wanted and it works like i need it to00:12
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koshjeeze after all these years he still only does dtml00:20
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CrazyWoods('No traversable adapter found', ) with zope manager interface, any idea?12:16
bigkevmcdCrazyWoods: if you want help, you'll need to pastebin the entire traceback12:17
CrazyWoodswhere?12:18
goschtlpastie.org12:18
CrazyWoodsthe event.log file?12:19
bigkevmcdthe full traceback12:20
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CrazyWoodsi am new to zope, so...12:22
mgedminthe event.log ought to have something about a SiteError with the traceback12:23
mgedminit starts with "Traceback (most recent calls last):" and ends with "SomeKindOfError: No traversable adapter found", or something like this12:24
mgedminthat's the relevant part12:24
mgedminalso mention the URL of the page that got you that error12:24
CrazyWoodsi see12:25
CrazyWoodsi found what cause the error, it plone after i uninstall it, it work12:25
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CrazyWoodszope2 or zope3 are suitable for me if i am new to zope?12:28
mgedminthey're sooo different...12:32
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mgedminI mean, they're for different purposes12:32
mgedminzope 3 (renamed to bluebream lately to avoid confusion with zope 2) is for building complex web apps from scratch12:33
mgedminzope 2 is for deploying CMS-like websites, I suppose12:33
mgedminmaybe quick prototyping12:34
CrazyWoodsmgedmin, i see12:37
kleistCrazyWoods, go for pyramid12:39
kleisthttp://pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/about12:40
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mgedminpersonally I'd choose pyramid over zope 3 for a new project12:41
CrazyWoodsi am not sure what a framework is12:41
mgedminit's like a library, but more obnoxious12:44
mgedminthe question is, what goal do you want to achieve?12:44
CrazyWoodsi want to build a app store like site which containt browser UI interface, mobile client connect and PC application service :)12:46
CrazyWoodsi am not sure what shall i choose?12:46
mgedmindjango or pyramid, if you're looking for a python web framework12:47
mgedmindjango feels like it has a more complete ecosystem with ready-made components for all sorts of things12:47
CrazyWoodsi am not sure if a web framework can solove my problem12:47
mgedminpyramid feels like something that experienced/discerning developers choose because they want more freedom/like to reimplement existing solutions on their own12:48
mgedminare you a programmer ready to spend a few months developing a solution?12:48
CrazyWoodsyes, use to be a Java programmer12:49
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