| kittonian | for example, is there a way to say if it's only one thing and nothing else? | 00:00 |
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| kittonian | nevermind, i just set the order the way i wanted and it works like i need it to | 00:12 |
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| kosh | jeeze after all these years he still only does dtml | 00:20 |
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| CrazyWoods | ('No traversable adapter found', ) with zope manager interface, any idea? | 12:16 |
| bigkevmcd | CrazyWoods: if you want help, you'll need to pastebin the entire traceback | 12:17 |
| CrazyWoods | where? | 12:18 |
| goschtl | pastie.org | 12:18 |
| CrazyWoods | the event.log file? | 12:19 |
| bigkevmcd | the full traceback | 12:20 |
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| CrazyWoods | i am new to zope, so... | 12:22 |
| mgedmin | the event.log ought to have something about a SiteError with the traceback | 12:23 |
| mgedmin | it starts with "Traceback (most recent calls last):" and ends with "SomeKindOfError: No traversable adapter found", or something like this | 12:24 |
| mgedmin | that's the relevant part | 12:24 |
| mgedmin | also mention the URL of the page that got you that error | 12:24 |
| CrazyWoods | i see | 12:25 |
| CrazyWoods | i found what cause the error, it plone after i uninstall it, it work | 12:25 |
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| CrazyWoods | zope2 or zope3 are suitable for me if i am new to zope? | 12:28 |
| mgedmin | they're sooo different... | 12:32 |
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| mgedmin | I mean, they're for different purposes | 12:32 |
| mgedmin | zope 3 (renamed to bluebream lately to avoid confusion with zope 2) is for building complex web apps from scratch | 12:33 |
| mgedmin | zope 2 is for deploying CMS-like websites, I suppose | 12:33 |
| mgedmin | maybe quick prototyping | 12:34 |
| CrazyWoods | mgedmin, i see | 12:37 |
| kleist | CrazyWoods, go for pyramid | 12:39 |
| kleist | http://pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/about | 12:40 |
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| mgedmin | personally I'd choose pyramid over zope 3 for a new project | 12:41 |
| CrazyWoods | i am not sure what a framework is | 12:41 |
| mgedmin | it's like a library, but more obnoxious | 12:44 |
| mgedmin | the question is, what goal do you want to achieve? | 12:44 |
| CrazyWoods | i want to build a app store like site which containt browser UI interface, mobile client connect and PC application service :) | 12:46 |
| CrazyWoods | i am not sure what shall i choose? | 12:46 |
| mgedmin | django or pyramid, if you're looking for a python web framework | 12:47 |
| mgedmin | django feels like it has a more complete ecosystem with ready-made components for all sorts of things | 12:47 |
| CrazyWoods | i am not sure if a web framework can solove my problem | 12:47 |
| mgedmin | pyramid feels like something that experienced/discerning developers choose because they want more freedom/like to reimplement existing solutions on their own | 12:48 |
| mgedmin | are you a programmer ready to spend a few months developing a solution? | 12:48 |
| CrazyWoods | yes, use to be a Java programmer | 12:49 |
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