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indraveni | Hi, | 15:31 |
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indraveni | I need support for Zope 2.9.2 version under which I installed plone 2.5.2 | 15:32 |
indraveni | actually I am trying to configure zeo clients to increased the site performance | 15:32 |
indraveni | installed in my machine the plone2.5.2 unified installer and configured the server | 15:32 |
indraveni | now trying to configure some more clients in other systems | 15:33 |
indraveni | but the mapping to this server from other clients is not working | 15:35 |
indraveni | hello there? | 15:35 |
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kosh | hmm too bad he left already | 15:59 |
kosh | I wonder what you can actualy do with zope 2.9 + ZEO to increase plone 2.5 performance | 16:00 |
kosh | zope 2.13 is much much faster then 2.9 was with ZEO | 16:00 |
kosh | and my understanding is newer plones are faster then older ones | 16:00 |
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lewellyn | kosh: that person's trying to avoid hiring someone to fix their problem. jfyi. :) | 17:21 |
lewellyn | they keep giving slightly different information. | 17:21 |
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kosh | ah I see | 17:27 |
kosh | something like that is too complex to solve without paying someone | 17:28 |
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lewellyn | yup. especially when you can't articulate the scope of the problem, yourself, you shouldn't be dealing with that. | 17:32 |
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kosh | it is amazing how many professional developers have no idea why something is slow | 17:53 |
kosh | and while plone is slow a lot of the slowness I have seen in sites is not because of plone | 17:53 |
kosh | the worst is when the page is slow but the server is not | 17:54 |
kosh | but the html is so bad and misordered that the browser just stalls rendering the page and they blame the server | 17:54 |
kosh | I have seen that before where top and wireshark show the server fully sent everything in < 1s but the browser worked on it for about 10 seconds before rendering and the person blamed the server software | 17:54 |
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kosh | see you freaks later | 18:07 |
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lewellyn | kosh: then there's also the people running behind apache with that broken msie line, and of course they're all using ie. :/ | 18:53 |
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planetzopebot | Framework Team Now Soliciting PLIPS for Plone 4.3 (Plone News) http://plone.org/news/fwt_soliciting_plips_for_plone_4.3 | 20:08 |
planetzopebot | Ross Patterson chosen as Plone Foundation member (Plone News) http://plone.org/news/ross_patterson_named_plone_foundation_member | 20:08 |
planetzopebot | Plone Foundation Secures Plone.com Domain (Plone News) http://plone.org/news/plonedotcom-domain-secured | 20:08 |
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hariom | Can anybody give example on how to use Zope's Datetime for age verification? | 21:51 |
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kosh | lewellyn: you mean the line that closes the connection after every hit? | 22:26 |
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lewellyn | kosh: yup | 22:27 |
lewellyn | works great with modern ajaxy graphics-laden sites1 | 22:28 |
lewellyn | ! | 22:28 |
kosh | I only use apache for one site and that site is going away | 22:28 |
kosh | all my other sites use nginx | 22:28 |
kosh | I got sick and tired of apache bugs | 22:29 |
lewellyn | yeah. i don't use most of the apache-specific stuff. | 22:29 |
kosh | I had apache doing proxy loady balancing for zope and it would screw up data between requests | 22:29 |
lewellyn | if i were putting a tomcat server up or something, i might use apache in front of it for mod_jk, for instance. but yeah... | 22:29 |
kosh | it is a known bug that keeps being opened and closed in apache | 22:29 |
kosh | opened by users, closed by apache devs | 22:30 |
lewellyn | and has been for years, yes | 22:30 |
kosh | it is rare but insanely annoying | 22:30 |
kosh | nginx does not do it at all | 22:30 |
lewellyn | yup | 22:30 |
kosh | so if you have 4 zopes talking to zeo and you want to have all of them work as one server then just put nginx in front and call the problem done | 22:30 |
kosh | nginx is lower resource usage, faster and the config format is WAY simpler | 22:30 |
lewellyn | i kind of want to try trafficserver in front of zope at some point though. | 22:30 |
kosh | right now I have no plans to switch from nginx unless something else can do an even better job with less usage of my time | 22:31 |
lewellyn | ats looks like it may be useful for certain types of zope sites | 22:31 |
lewellyn | it's lowish priority for me. | 22:31 |
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