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| do3cc | Hi, | 13:22 |
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| do3cc | Hi, I don't understand the latest security announcement. When I follow the link to the cve, the cve states that very old zope versions are already fixed. Has the wrong cve been linked in the announcement? | 13:23 |
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| betabug | do3cc: we had a bunch of security announcements that didn't affect versions before 2.11 | 13:40 |
| betabug | because they were caused by changes to the code that happened after 2.10 | 13:40 |
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| do3cc | the security announcement of today states that older versions are affected too | 13:41 |
| betabug | hmmm? | 13:41 |
| betabug | didn't see that one yet | 13:41 |
| do3cc | https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-announce/2012-January/002270.html | 13:42 |
| betabug | yeah, found it now | 13:42 |
| do3cc | it links to new zope 2.12 and 2.13 versions, and says that for older versions a hotfix exists | 13:42 |
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| do3cc | then the cve in the message links to an old cve that states zope 2.12.3 and newer is not affected | 13:43 |
| betabug | yeah, but it also links to the hotfix | 13:43 |
| do3cc | there are new new cve related to zope that mentions xss | 13:43 |
| betabug | maybe it's because it says "updated" | 13:46 |
| betabug | nope, the "updated" refers to something else | 13:47 |
| betabug | the confusing thing is that the CVE is from 02/23/10 | 13:49 |
| do3cc | No point in guessing. I'll ask tres | 13:52 |
| betabug | yeah | 13:53 |
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| betabug | ok, hotfix applied everywhere(TM) | 14:13 |
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| kosh | hail peoplies! | 15:20 |
| * lewellyn tosses marshmallows at kosh | 15:26 | |
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| * kosh roasts them with hellfire | 15:31 | |
| lewellyn | tasty | 15:32 |
| kosh | so how is your evil going? | 15:32 |
| lewellyn | right now, my evil is being tempered by an mmo for the next 90 minutes or so | 15:33 |
| lewellyn | then i have warm evil to heat up further | 15:33 |
| kosh | I wish I had more time for games right now class and work is keeping me too busy | 15:37 |
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| lewellyn | it's almost 0600 | 15:44 |
| lewellyn | i get up at 0700 | 15:44 |
| lewellyn | till then, i have time for games :) | 15:44 |
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| lewellyn | it's amazing how closely mmorpgs mimic real life. my next task is to spend a couple minutes killing ants. | 15:57 |
| lewellyn | probably will have to get rid of spiders next. | 15:57 |
| kosh | what game are you playing? | 15:57 |
| lewellyn | perfect world international | 15:58 |
| lewellyn | even though the publisher is trying to kill it, it's still a good game if you ignore the idiots who have flocked to it recently | 15:58 |
| kosh | ah | 15:58 |
| kosh | I play star trek online pretty much but not much anymore | 15:59 |
| lewellyn | yeah. i got addicted to perfect world in 2005 or 2006 on the malaysian (english) server, before the .us server came out | 15:59 |
| lewellyn | i find it to be a game with good team strategy and a general sense of serenity. i like that for relaxation time. | 16:00 |
| lewellyn | and i should be at my ants now... bbiaf. | 16:00 |
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| lewellyn | also like real life, there's lots of waiting | 16:07 |
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| teratorn | hi can anyone forsee any critical issues with moving a zope instance and zodb file from a zope 2.10.6 installation to a zope 2.10.5 installation? | 18:27 |
| betabug | teratorn: moving it backwards in versions?? | 18:28 |
| teratorn | changing OS'es and those are the versions that are provided via packages | 18:29 |
| betabug | well, since 2.10 is really old (and also unsupported), I'd suggest to install from source | 18:29 |
| betabug | and take the latest in the 2.10.x series | 18:30 |
| betabug | assuming you really need 2.10! | 18:30 |
| betabug | latest is 2.13 | 18:30 |
| teratorn | will there be an issue with that? I do believe I've tried newer zopes before and I had to rollback | 18:30 |
| teratorn | as far as upgrading the database... newer versions of the Products ,etc | 18:30 |
| betabug | yes, going to 2.13 can be problematic, have to test | 18:30 |
| betabug | upgrading the DB is not the problem, compatibility of Products is | 18:31 |
| teratorn | new Products, with old-schema data? | 18:31 |
| betabug | there is no schema, the ZODB is an object database | 18:32 |
| betabug | that's not the problem | 18:32 |
| betabug | but lots of other things have changed | 18:32 |
| teratorn | objects have attributes | 18:32 |
| teratorn | there is still a schema :) | 18:32 |
| teratorn | perhaps less formal than some other types of DBs | 18:32 |
| betabug | it's freeform, you can change it at will | 18:33 |
| teratorn | sure | 18:33 |
| betabug | you can add an attribute to one single object, the other similar objects don't need to be bothered | 18:33 |
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| teratorn | but objects have to be upgraded | 18:33 |
| teratorn | if they followed an older ad-hoc schema that the new code doesn't understand, right? | 18:33 |
| betabug | if the code requires a new attribute, maybe yes | 18:33 |
| teratorn | yeah, something like that | 18:34 |
| betabug | if it's well coded (e.g. with sane defaults), not | 18:34 |
| betabug | worst case is turning an attribute into a method | 18:34 |
| teratorn | of the same name... that would be nutty | 18:34 |
| betabug | it makes things complicated | 18:35 |
| betabug | anyway, at least try to get to the latest 2.10.x version | 18:38 |
| teratorn | yeah, I suppose so | 18:41 |
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| kosh | what I do is just set class attributes for default and give each object a version number | 18:44 |
| kosh | the I can just run a script and upgrade all old objects to new objects very easily but the system still works until then | 18:44 |
| betabug | kosh: yes, but supposed you want to turn an attribute into a method with the same name | 18:46 |
| betabug | that is a bit more complicated | 18:47 |
| betabug | or even the other way around | 18:47 |
| kosh | yeah I don't do that | 18:47 |
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