IRC log of #zope for Tuesday, 2012-02-28

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koshI wish there was a way in cache extreme detail to know how much space each entry takes20:19
koshI would like to know what zope is using memory on20:19
mgedminthere are interesting tools for things like these20:20
mgedminsometimes I wish I had time to play with them20:20
koshapparently there was some work years ago to allow zope to store the pickle cache in memcached20:21
koshI wish that worked since then I could share that cache across all my zope servers20:21
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koshI just suspect if I could understand memory usage better I could make better systems20:26
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wheeermI have this problem http://collective-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/troubleshooting/exceptions.html#extensionclass-extensionclass-object-is-not-iterable , but the required plone product is obsolete.20:35
wheeermHow would I go about locating/removing the offending zodb objects?20:36
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TresEquiskosh, I poked at that idea at one point20:50
koshthere is one that exists for zope but from someone that tried to use it I don't think it works20:50
TresEquisit needs to land my pure-Python persistence / picklecache implementation first20:50
TresEquisthe picklecache and the persistent class are deeply intertwingled20:51
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koshit is too bad you can't just store whatever the binary representation is directly in memcached and use that strange id you see in the pickle cache as the id20:52
koshthat way at least binary pickles could be shared20:53
koshshould still be better and faster then what we have now20:54
koshand it would help a huge ammount on those multicore systems where you run mulitiple zopes to a zeo server and have something like nginx to load balance20:54
koshsince those systems all pretty much have the same thing in their caches20:56
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koshI wonder how much memory that would save and how many more objects you could cache as a result20:58
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