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| ganesh_ariveguru | hi.....anybody knows how to clean zodb data | 10:07 |
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| ganesh_ariveguru | i am new to zodb, pls tell me any guides to improve zodb performance, conf files, cleaning and others | 10:08 |
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| bigkevmcd | ganesh_ariveguru: tried packing it? | 10:12 |
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| ganesh_ariveguru | no i dont know packing... | 10:13 |
| ganesh_ariveguru | i have not run any data server for it... | 10:14 |
| ganesh_ariveguru | application is under development and running in cherrypy | 10:14 |
| bigkevmcd | ganesh_ariveguru: http://www.zodb.org/documentation/articles/index.html | 10:15 |
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| ganesh_ariveguru | bigkevmcd: i have read that article many times, but there is no clear details about packing...can u tell some others | 10:16 |
| ganesh_ariveguru | each time i am opening db and adding new data, so the data base size becomes bigger and bigger, so how to avoid that.....? packing is the solution...? | 10:17 |
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| bigkevmcd | yes | 10:18 |
| betabug | yes, you have to pack the zodb from time to time, to remove outdated stuff | 10:18 |
| betabug | hey big guy! | 10:18 |
| bigkevmcd | ganesh_ariveguru: call pack on an instance of ZODB | 10:18 |
| ganesh_ariveguru | sorry how to call pack , can u pls elaborate | 10:19 |
| bigkevmcd | ganesh_ariveguru: call pack() on an instance of the ZODB class | 10:20 |
| betabug | isn't it in the zodb.org documentation? | 10:20 |
| ganesh_ariveguru | betabug it is not in details | 10:20 |
| ganesh_ariveguru | i have written my own ZODB class there is no pack method | 10:21 |
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| ganesh_ariveguru | when i have to pack, at last or after adding new data? | 10:24 |
| bigkevmcd | ganesh_ariveguru: when you delete data, the objects in the database are not purged, only marked as deleted | 10:25 |
| ganesh_ariveguru | i have not deleted any data...but opening db and adding new data | 10:26 |
| bigkevmcd | so, there's nothing to pack | 10:26 |
| betabug | well, if you add data, the db grows... kind of normal | 10:26 |
| ganesh_ariveguru | my document is only 12 MB, but in db it is 70 MB...is it normal? | 10:26 |
| betabug | well, if you make changes to your document, it will get saved again each time | 10:27 |
| ganesh_ariveguru | no my document is fixed | 10:28 |
| ganesh_ariveguru | please suggest me some good materials to improve my knowledge on zodb........... | 10:29 |
| bigkevmcd | ganesh_ariveguru: which features of ZODB do you need, that you're using? | 10:30 |
| ganesh_ariveguru | write conf files on zodb, improving db performance... | 10:32 |
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| ganesh_ariveguru | which features in the sense, it have to easy to query, search and fast to return from db | 10:34 |
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| bigkevmcd | so, you're using the catalog too? | 10:35 |
| ganesh_ariveguru | i am not using now....i want to use | 10:36 |
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| bigkevmcd | If you're using your own custom ZODB class, then I'd imagine reading the source is your best bet, there's nothing magical in ZODB | 10:45 |
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| jakke | Hi guys, I'm looking for a way to detect if my zope instance is fully up and running; the point where it states 'zope is ready to handle request' | 12:49 |
| jakke | and that's because the bin/instance bg returns before the instance is fully started | 12:49 |
| goschtl | jakke: there are some events which get's fired | 12:49 |
| goschtl | i am not sure which one is the best for it | 12:49 |
| jakke | Hi goschtl | 12:49 |
| jakke | I know there's events | 12:50 |
| jakke | but how to combine events in the startup scripts :s | 12:50 |
| jakke | I've created a custom script bin/instance instance_running | 12:50 |
| jakke | but I have to fire that manually, so registering on events does not make much sence | 12:50 |
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| jakke | usecase: we have multiple instances, and they have to be started one after the other, afther the previous has been fully started. Default wait of x-seconds is not really a productive option | 12:51 |
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| bigkevmcd | jakke: you could try wget/curl in a loop 'til the page is accessible | 12:53 |
| goschtl | jakke: you can use supervisor | 12:53 |
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| jakke | bigkevmcd: true, but not really a clean solution ;-) | 12:54 |
| bigkevmcd | jakke: would be pretty clean actually | 12:54 |
| bigkevmcd | jakke: pipe the output of wget/curl to stdout, and grep for it | 12:54 |
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| bigkevmcd | jakke: tho', am curious why the instances "have to be started one after the other, afther the previous has been fully started." | 12:56 |
| jakke | goschtl: thx, looks interesting, I'll play a bit with it | 12:57 |
| jakke | bigkevmcd: we're talking multiple instances of the same zope app, working on the same datafs | 12:58 |
| jakke | if the first one hasn't been fully started before the second is started, weird situations pop up | 12:58 |
| jakke | for now we do a default wait of 30 secs to start them, but that slows down the whole process | 12:59 |
| bigkevmcd | jakke: that sounds like a more fundamental problem | 12:59 |
| bigkevmcd | jakke: you're using ZEO? | 12:59 |
| jakke | no, oracle | 12:59 |
| bigkevmcd | ahh...so you have two problems :-) | 13:00 |
| betabug | hehe | 13:00 |
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| jakke | bigkevmcd: that's evil ;-) | 13:02 |
| jakke | it is datafs in oracle for the record, no relational db in the regular sence of the word | 13:03 |
| goschtl | jakke: yes with supervisor it should work as you wisch | 13:03 |
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