IRC log of #zope for Thursday, 2012-05-10

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J1m_I put things in the zc namespace by default, because that seems polite to me.  It's like using a com.zope namespace in the java world.00:11
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J1m_for a project that's not zc specific and that wants to have related modules in a namespace, it makes sense to me to use a different namespace (e.g. zk)00:12
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J1m_ benbangert ^00:12
J1m_So I'm advocating using zk.00:14
benbangertok, works for me00:14
J1m_So I'd be happy if you wanted to set up a python-zk org move the code there.00:14
J1m_Otherwise, I'll get to it eventually. :)00:15
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J1m_s/move/and copy/00:26
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benbangertJ1m_: looks like it might be better to do that while transitioning it to git to begin with. apparently the git 2 svn tools puke because of how the svn repo started at /repos/main/Sandbox/J1m/zc.zk00:28
benbangertso I'm not sure it'll be possible to get a clean history anyways, not that it'd matter much if it gets re-orged into the zk package00:28
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J1m_Hm, that's wierd.00:28
benbangertJ1m_: wow, ppl really don't like talking to others00:28
benbangerthttps://github.com/davidmiller/zoop just landed a few days ago00:28
benbangertlooks a lot like my lock00:28
J1m_I like to start things in my incubator area, but that's an artifact of the svn big tree model.00:28
benbangertJ1m_: I like his pattern of having the objects on the connection object00:28
benbangertmeans you don't have to keep passing the connection object around which is handy00:28
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benbangertlol, https://github.com/davidmiller/zoop/blob/master/zoop/lock.py#L9600:28
J1m_Oh my00:28
benbangertI'm writing him an email now00:28
J1m_I added a brief comment on his initial commit.00:28
benbangertyea, I was asking him that, until I skimmed the code and saw that he copied most of my implementation00:29
benbangertof course, its broken since it doesn't do the GUID bit nor handle the CONNECTION_LOSS exception00:29
benbangertI'd prefer for him to join us on zk, having more eyes looking at this stuff is very useful00:31
J1m_yup00:32
benbangerthmm, in theory, if gevent patches the threading module, then my async lock is gevent safe00:34
benbangertJ1m_: so far all these other python lock impl's I'm reading are broken00:35
J1m_Gaaaa, please don't encourage them.  They're waaaaaay too monkey-patch happy for my taste00:36
benbangert:)00:36
J1m_What other lock implementations are you looking at?00:36
benbangertspeaking of working together, first pull req. for zktools just came in, yea!00:37
J1m_Cool.00:37
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benbangertJ1m_: well, the zoop one, and this nimbus one00:37
benbangertthe nimbus one is really weird00:37
benbangerthttps://github.com/nimbusproject/kazoo/blob/master/kazoo/recipe/lock.py00:38
benbangertJ1m_: was going through http://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=search&term=zookeeper&submit=search to track other ppl down :)00:39
* benbangert is on a NIH hunting spree00:39
J1m_ah00:39
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thevishyhow do I pass a style to a dtml_page object08:59
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monokromehey10:14
monokromeDoes anyone know if zope provides a way to scan a package for anything that implements a specific interface? I'm pretty sure that I've used this before, but can't remember what it was.10:14
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__mac__monokrome: I think you have seen martian11:19
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roq_1betabug: I found the problem17:11
betabugreally? great!17:11
betabugwhat was it?17:11
betabugyou were running it on a Commodore 64?17:12
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roq_1betabug: I am using BeautifulSoup to read some html, but when I was returning some strings of the html BeautifulSoup returned something that I thought was a String but was a big (very big) object... So I wasn't wring just strings to the zopedb, I was writing these big objects17:14
betabugoh!17:14
betabuggood point, yeah17:15
roq_1thank for your help!17:15
betabugno problem, you're welcome! glad you solved it!17:15
roq_1that object, I think, inherits from str so it is much like17:15
roq_1but biiig17:16
roq_1now I am inserting 10,000 in seconds17:16
roq_1now I am inserting 10,000 in about 5 seconds in a BTreeFolder217:17
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betabugthat's more like normal :-)17:18
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jseutterHi, I'm looking at using zope.security and zope.proxy in Python 3.2.  Is there a mailing list or someone in particular I should talk to about porting this19:29
jseutter?19:29
benbangertJ1m: I copied the generated C API docs up here for easier reference, http://groovie.org/zkdocs/19:31
benbangertJ1m: http://groovie.org/zkdocs/zookeeper_8h.html is the most useful page19:32
benbangertfor some reason the async functions call back with the pointer first, which just becomes a 0, I have no idea why they bother including it19:32
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J1mbenbangert, cool (wrt the docs)19:47
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J1mbenbangert, wrt porting the code to github, I don't think the history is all that important.  If you want to copy the code and refactor the non-service-specific bits into zk.base sans history, I think that would be fine.19:56
benbangertokey19:56
J1m(maybe a base project in the python-zk org, or whatever)19:56
benbangertyea, was thinking there's gonna be lost history one way or the other anyways19:56
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mgedminjseutter, zope-dev@zope.org seems to be the best place to talk about porting zope.* to python 320:17
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mgedminbenbangert, the nice thing about git is that you can use grafts to restore the lost history at a latter point20:23
benbangertto individual files?20:24
benbangertthis is a merging of two projects20:24
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mgedminbasically you have a text file somehere in .git/ that tells "you know commit deadbeef? make it so it's parent commit is actually cafebabe"20:26
mgedminso when you (or someone else) finds the time to craft a rules file like http://repo.or.cz/w/svn-all-fast-export.git/blob/HEAD:/samples/min-max-revision.rules20:27
mgedminto adjust for svn repository layout changes or whatnot20:27
mgedminit's possible to git fetch from the historical repository, into a regular repository and stitch the two commit graphs together using grafts20:28
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benbangertmgedmin: yea..... if you'd like to help with that, that'd be awesome, its a bit over my head ;)20:29
benbangertJ1m: so have the service stuff in a separate package? zkservice?20:30
benbangertJ1m: we could keep the core zk package for the zk wrapper and zk recipes then20:30
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jseuttermgedmin: Thanks.  I'll subscribe and send an email there...20:37
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