IRC log of #zope for Monday, 2012-07-09

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moo-_-download.zope.org is doing this again13:08
moo-_-    for res in getaddrinfo(host, port, 0, SOCK_STREAM):13:08
moo-_-IOError: [Errno socket error] [Errno -2] Name or service not known13:08
mauritsmoo-_-:  works for me. At least: simply visiting http://download.zope.org/ in a browser works.13:12
moo-_-yes13:12
moo-_-50% requests give bad answer13:12
moo-_-it did this last week also13:12
moo-_-I can scroll for the back log13:12
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moo-_-<betabug> hmmm, yeah, something is fishy with DNS13:15
moo-_-<betabug> ns7.zoneedit.com and ns1.zoneedit.com do not always respond13:15
moo-_-<betabug> maybe they need a reboot after the leap second thing?13:15
moo-_-<betabug> same for www.zope.org btw13:15
mauritsUnrelated: Can anybody fix the topic of this channel? It points to a public Wave, which does not work anymore.13:15
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mauritsmoo-_-:  Okay, no idea about that DNS. In case of no other reactions, you could ask on the zope-developers mailing list, if you have not done so already.13:20
moo-_-maurits: too much trouble to subscribe yet another mailing list13:21
moo-_-maurits: I just blacklist download.zope.org13:21
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foodooHi, I've seen the following code in the Zope2 documentation: http://pastebin.ca/216905617:43
foodooAnd there is a function call within the class definition that is not bound to a class variable17:44
foodooAnd this is something that I haven't seen before and I couldn't find an explanation in the Python docs for the mechanisms behind this code17:44
foodooI understand that this somehow declares that this class implements an interface. But I can't find any documentation on the general principle of calling functions in class definitions without keeping their return value17:45
betabugfoodoo: what you want to read about is zope.interface17:47
betabugdunno where docs about that are17:47
foodooIs it a zope-spefic thing? I fully understand that this declares an Implemenation of an interface. What I like to know: What is the general principle behind calling functions in class definitions17:48
foodooor is this a zope-only thing?17:48
teixfoodoo: it's related with ZCA17:49
teixfoodoo: look at http://www.muthukadan.net/docs/zca.html17:49
teixfoodoo: in particular: http://blogs.gnome.org/jamesh/2005/09/08/python-class-advisors/17:50
teixfoodoo: get there from section 3.3 of zca doc17:51
foodooah, that seems to be exactly what I want to read. Thank you :)17:51
teixfoodoo: good reading! ;)17:51
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TresEquisfoodoo, note that the pattern, though widespread, is deprecated, because it can't work under Python3.x18:25
TresEquisa more modern spelling uses the equivalent 'implementer' class decorator18:26
TresEquise.g.: http://pastebin.ca/216906718:27
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foodooTresEquis: thanks. That's a good alternative. Much less of magic going on there.19:12
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foodoogoing home now. Thank you all :)19:13
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