| m8 | J1m, but it's stil in beta? | 00:02 |
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| sm | isn't pyramid the most modern incarnation of zope3 ideas? | 00:06 |
| m8 | sm, you think? | 00:06 |
| m8 | pyramid is the modern incarnation of pylons project | 00:07 |
| m8 | sm, pyramid use zodb but is not zope :| | 00:07 |
| sm | m8, I think it's that second, but what I said first | 00:07 |
| sm | but J1m or mcdonc may correct me | 00:07 |
| kosh | if you started a new project use pyramid | 00:12 |
| m8 | kosh, but pyramid is not zope | 00:13 |
| m8 | kosh, pyramid with zodb? | 00:13 |
| kosh | I know pyramid is not zope | 00:13 |
| kosh | if I made a new project and did not have backwards compatibility I would probably just go for pyramid with zodb and postgres | 00:14 |
| kosh | probably end up with some memcached in there also | 00:14 |
| m8 | kosh, not only a db? | 00:14 |
| mcdonc | in zope terms... pyramid == zpublisher-only | 00:15 |
| mcdonc | no dependencies on any kind of database | 00:15 |
| m8 | mcdonc, what do you suggest? | 00:17 |
| mcdonc | i have to recuse myself, because i wrote most of pyramid | 00:17 |
| m8 | :| | 00:17 |
| sm | so you can assume he would suggest pyramid. :) | 00:17 |
| m8 | :| | 00:17 |
| m8 | mcdonc, zope is much rock solid than pyramid? | 00:18 |
| mcdonc | it has the gbs | 00:18 |
| mcdonc | and its webscale | 00:18 |
| m8 | gbs = ? | 00:18 |
| mcdonc | sorry, joking | 00:19 |
| m8 | :D | 00:19 |
| m8 | mcdonc, but now zope3 is bluebream, or not? | 00:20 |
| mcdonc | i guess | 00:20 |
| m8 | but it's in beta :| | 00:20 |
| mcdonc | ok, i'll fall on the being-an-asshole sword | 00:21 |
| mcdonc | don't use bluebream | 00:21 |
| mcdonc | pointless | 00:21 |
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| m8 | mcdonc, ok :) | 00:22 |
| mcdonc | these days take your pick between django, flask, bottle, pyramid, zope2 | 00:23 |
| m8 | mcdonc, i'm using plone and django | 00:24 |
| mcdonc | ok, so.. problem solved? ;-) | 00:25 |
| m8 | :O | 00:25 |
| m8 | mcdonc, django is sometimes limited | 00:25 |
| m8 | plone is good but too fat :D | 00:25 |
| mcdonc | well, like i said, i wrote pyramid. | 00:26 |
| m8 | i've thougth zope3 (after reading philip book) | 00:26 |
| mcdonc | so.. not sure i can give much of an unbiased opinion. | 00:26 |
| m8 | in pyramid there is someting like ftp server? | 00:26 |
| m8 | zope ftp server | 00:27 |
| mcdonc | you can fail just as hard using any of them ;-) | 00:27 |
| mcdonc | nope | 00:27 |
| mcdonc | afaik, only zope has an ftp server | 00:27 |
| m8 | argh | 00:27 |
| m8 | +1 for zope :D | 00:27 |
| mcdonc | terrible having so much free software to choose from i guess | 00:27 |
| m8 | it's the core of the system | 00:27 |
| mcdonc | well that makes your choice easy.. zope it is | 00:28 |
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| m8 | good | 00:29 |
| m8 | but not bluebream being-an-asshole | 00:29 |
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| m8 | thanks mcdonc | 00:31 |
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| sm | +1 for straight talk! bluebream has no traction (never did) | 01:16 |
| sm | interesting that zope 2 is still attractive for some new projects | 01:17 |
| kosh | I still use zope 2 and will continue to | 01:25 |
| kosh | it still works extremely reliably | 01:25 |
| kosh | I don't have any crashes, deadlocks etc with it | 01:26 |
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