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| xqo | hi | 10:23 |
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| xqo | where do i put the index page for my website in zope2.11.4? | 10:23 |
| xqo | how do i edit index_html outside of the admin panel? | 10:33 |
| xqo | where is it? | 10:33 |
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| xqo | do you need a hammer to use zope? | 12:07 |
| betabug | xqo: why do you want to use zope? | 12:09 |
| betabug | it's in a kind of state of "if you don't know it or have a very good reason to use it, don't use it" | 12:09 |
| xqo | betabug i need it for a job. | 12:09 |
| xqo | i want to make a sample webshop or something so i can play around with tal or whatever | 12:10 |
| betabug | well, you're in for quite a ride | 12:10 |
| betabug | go find all the docs, read them all | 12:10 |
| xqo | yeah no | 12:10 |
| betabug | and be prepared to sift through a lot of outdated docs | 12:10 |
| xqo | so, what | 12:12 |
| xqo | the community is done with zope, and moving on? | 12:12 |
| xqo | its slowly dying? | 12:13 |
| betabug | the community is very small and consists of the people who have to carry on an investment in zope | 12:13 |
| xqo | ick. | 12:13 |
| betabug | but it's beyond the point where new people find it useful IMHO | 12:13 |
| betabug | if you want to build something new, I suggest pyramid | 12:13 |
| xqo | i have to use zope/plone | 12:14 |
| betabug | ofcoz, this is all my own private oppinion, nobody's "official" voice | 12:14 |
| xqo | sure | 12:14 |
| xqo | i got this job, and for 3 months im supposed to learn zope/plone | 12:14 |
| betabug | well, if you need to use plone, go to plone.org and to #plone | 12:14 |
| betabug | for zope knowledge, there are some docs, but some of the stuff is old | 12:15 |
| xqo | but plone is just a cms right? | 12:15 |
| xqo | ive gotten to work on a project for my new job, | 12:15 |
| xqo | where i edit template .pt files | 12:15 |
| xqo | and then i restart bin/instance to see the changes | 12:15 |
| xqo | how do i set that up for myself? | 12:15 |
| betabug | don't ask me about plone, not my thing | 12:16 |
| xqo | ok.. | 12:16 |
| betabug | #plone and plone.org are your friends there | 12:16 |
| xqo | but wait | 12:16 |
| xqo | isnt plone just a cms | 12:16 |
| xqo | so people can work together on a project? | 12:16 |
| betabug | plone is an application, running on top of the zope application server | 12:16 |
| chaoflow | well :) | 12:17 |
| betabug | it resembles a cms, but when you're not looking, it eats your dog, cancels your theater subscription and sends blackmail letters to your neighbors... or so they tell me | 12:17 |
| betabug | obviously I have no knowledge of any such things ever happening | 12:17 |
| xqo | ok, i just want to get to the stage where i can edit my website and see it in my browser :||||| | 12:17 |
| chaoflow | xqo: check plone.org and #plone as betabug suggested already | 12:18 |
| betabug | go to plone.org and follow the tutorials that no doubt have there | 12:18 |
| xqo | yeah i tried that, but i dont know how much more i can ask before they throw me out | 12:18 |
| chaoflow | plone community is very alive, documentation is improving every day and people are helpful | 12:18 |
| betabug | yepp, +1 for chaoflow there | 12:18 |
| betabug | chaoflow: how's life btw? :-) | 12:18 |
| * xqo goes looking for a hammer | 12:19 | |
| chaoflow | betabug: great, not so much plone work these days, ended up more in the frontend | 12:19 |
| chaoflow | betabug: http://patternslib.com/ | 12:19 |
| betabug | ah, ok, but that's ok too :-) | 12:19 |
| chaoflow | betabug: still in athens? | 12:19 |
| betabug | yes :-) | 12:19 |
| betabug | we just went online with eduno.com (online learning site) | 12:20 |
| chaoflow | nice! | 12:20 |
| betabug | the cms is django-cms, but the app is in pyramid :-) | 12:20 |
| betabug | came out of beta on Saturday, so it's all fresh and I'm still tired | 12:21 |
| chaoflow | betabug: frontpage: "Selbst grösste Chancen können mit falschen Einstellungen im Keim erstickt werden und zu Engpässen führen:sada s dasasd asd" | 12:23 |
| chaoflow | I don't assume the "sada s dasasd asd" belongs there | 12:23 |
| betabug | ups, hahaha | 12:24 |
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| betabug | someone played with the cms I guess | 12:24 |
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