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| agroszer | heya betabug | 12:00 |
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| betabug | hey agroszer, how are the zombies coming along? ;-) | 12:20 |
| agroszer | I'm about to try phantomjs | 12:21 |
| agroszer | via selenium webdriver | 12:21 |
| agroszer | any experiences with that? | 12:21 |
| betabug | hmmm | 12:21 |
| betabug | I think I didn't try phantomjs, don't remember | 12:21 |
| betabug | selenium webdriver... it was a mixed success | 12:22 |
| agroszer | zombiejs farts with a weird error on a button click | 12:24 |
| agroszer | TypeError: Cannot set property 'onreadystatechange' of null | 12:24 |
| agroszer | there's YUI3 in the game | 12:24 |
| betabug | hmm, don't know about that | 12:25 |
| agroszer | me neither | 12:25 |
| betabug | sometimes zombie barked on stuff that was perfectly ok, other times it found bugs in our code that nobody noticed | 12:25 |
| agroszer | phantom advertises that it's used to test YUI3 | 12:25 |
| betabug | it's like having to make stuff work on another browser sometimes | 12:25 |
| agroszer | and I somehow like the tar xzf installer | 12:25 |
| agroszer | we'll see in a few | 12:27 |
| betabug | yepp, keep me updated, if it's so good we might switch :-) | 12:28 |
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| agroszer | betabug, after a simple click button, fill text input, YUI3 ajaxy submit phantom wins | 14:05 |
| agroszer | IOW it does not err | 14:05 |
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| betabug | interesting, how is the speed? | 15:31 |
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| agroszer | whoa, betabug phantomjs is about 2x faster on the same page load than zombie | 15:43 |
| betabug | wow, interesting | 15:43 |
| betabug | so, how did you set it up? is there some python package? | 15:44 |
| agroszer | [phantomjs] | 15:44 |
| agroszer | recipe = gp.recipe.phantomjs | 15:44 |
| agroszer | phantomjs-version = 1.9.0 | 15:44 |
| agroszer | and driven by selenium webdriver | 15:44 |
| agroszer | self.driver = PhantomJS('../../bin/phantomjs') | 15:44 |
| agroszer | yadayada | 15:44 |
| betabug | so the api you use is the selenium webdriver one | 15:44 |
| agroszer | from selenium.webdriver import PhantomJS | 15:44 |
| agroszer | yah that creepy one | 15:44 |
| betabug | yepp | 15:45 |
| agroszer | (at the moment) | 15:45 |
| betabug | well, if it does the job | 15:45 |
| agroszer | I guess we'll use that for now | 15:45 |
| agroszer | getting nodejs and zombie installed is a PAIN | 15:46 |
| mgedmin | I've heard about people who use a zope.testbrowser-like API for Selenium tests | 15:46 |
| mgedmin | I think it was SchoolTool | 15:47 |
| agroszer | I heard about people who tried to do that API too ;-) | 15:47 |
| agroszer | huh betabug ? | 15:47 |
| agroszer | or was it the thing with pyside? | 15:48 |
| betabug | yeah, in fact both :-) | 15:58 |
| betabug | but selenium doesn't support some things that zope.testbrowser does | 15:58 |
| agroszer | that was my bad feeling | 15:59 |
| betabug | the most obvious was getting the browser response status | 15:59 |
| agroszer | errr phantom sometimes just hangs | 15:59 |
| betabug | dunno if it's still the same, but for some strange reason the selenium guys deny doing that, even despite a huge flamewar from everybody | 15:59 |
| betabug | agroszer: also the python-zombie package didn't work on windows, so it wouldn't run for your chefprogrammer | 16:00 |
| agroszer | that's a different company now ;-) | 16:00 |
| agroszer | no windows here | 16:00 |
| agroszer | but, actually phantom should work on windows | 16:01 |
| agroszer | it's also a single exe | 16:02 |
| agroszer | even smaller than the x64 linux binary | 16:02 |
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| betabug | agroszer: how is the memory footprint of that test setup now? | 16:19 |
| agroszer | adi 9551 0.5 0.2 2115920 22932 pts/2 Sl+ 15:23 0:00 /parts/phantomjs/phantomjs-1.9.0-linux-x86_64/bin/phantomjs --webdriver=54782 | 16:24 |
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| agroszer | plus the pyramid app stuff | 16:26 |
| agroszer | adi 10211 15.8 0.3 2118116 24620 pts/2 Sl+ 15:27 0:01 /parts/phantomjs/phantomjs-1.9.0-linux-x86_64/bin/phantomjs --webdriver=40222 | 16:28 |
| agroszer | after 100 page loads | 16:28 |
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| betabug | thanx | 16:30 |
| betabug | so not really better than zombie there | 16:30 |
| agroszer | lets see that | 16:31 |
| agroszer | adi 10793 6.6 0.4 727780 39168 pts/2 Sl+ 15:31 0:00 node /work/.buildout/eggs/zombie-0.1.0a5-py2.7.egg/zombie/proxy/server.js /tmp/zombie-9371.sock | 16:32 |
| agroszer | adi 11047 48.0 1.5 864860 130520 pts/2 Sl+ 15:32 0:02 node /work/.buildout/eggs/zombie-0.1.0a5-py2.7.egg/zombie/proxy/server.js /tmp/zombie-2761.sock | 16:32 |
| * gawel is happy to know that he wrote at least a usefull buildout recipe | 16:32 | |
| agroszer | 1 page and 100 page loads | 16:32 |
| agroszer | seems a bit leaky | 16:33 |
| betabug | zombie? | 16:33 |
| agroszer | yup | 16:33 |
| betabug | yeah, we are guessing so too | 16:33 |
| agroszer | phantom seems to start high, but stays there | 16:34 |
| betabug | right now it's stell acceptable, but with the test suite growing, both the speed and the memory are a concern | 16:34 |
| agroszer | yup | 16:34 |
| agroszer | and it seems once it crashes it's gone | 16:34 |
| agroszer | (zombie) | 16:35 |
| betabug | once it's crashes, it's dead | 16:35 |
| betabug | our main fear with zombie though is that the project appears to be one programmer, and he seems to be totally overwhelmed | 16:37 |
| kosh | hail insanelings! | 16:37 |
| betabug | so likely we will put in the effort to switch | 16:37 |
| betabug | hey kosh | 16:37 |
| agroszer | aha that's why it does not support node 0.10 | 16:37 |
| kosh | betabug: I will probably just stay with zope indefinitely, it still works reliably for me and I care more about learning biotech/nanotech now | 16:38 |
| betabug | he's working on a new version, so it might be a bit of "2nd system effect" too | 16:38 |
| betabug | kosh: well, my personal stuff will stay on zope too for now | 16:39 |
| betabug | but new customer projects... not likely to start with zope | 16:39 |
| betabug | with pyramid there is actually some real documentation | 16:39 |
| kosh | I just don't have time to learn and setup a new system | 16:39 |
| kosh | but I am also not really starting any completely new projects | 16:39 |
| kosh | just new stuff for existing customers that integrate into their existing zope sites | 16:40 |
| betabug | yeah, there obviously you don't want to start over | 16:40 |
| kosh | not when some of those sites are 100K+ pages | 16:40 |
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