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| MrSmile | hi zope people! | 04:52 |
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| kosh | greetings human! | 05:38 |
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| MrSmile | kosh :) | 06:09 |
| MrSmile | kosh.... are you zope or caveman ?! | 06:10 |
| kosh | huh? | 06:10 |
| MrSmile | kosh: I got a small problem with bluebream | 06:10 |
| MrSmile | kosh: can you help me?! | 06:11 |
| kosh | I have never used bluebream | 06:11 |
| kosh | I use zope 2.x and have for a little over 10 years now | 06:11 |
| MrSmile | kosh: hmmm.... I thought you might help me. | 06:11 |
| kosh | I stayed away from the whole zope 3.x thing that later became bluebream | 06:11 |
| MrSmile | I just added "jinja2" in the setup.py, and run buildout, and my friend tells me: "Error: Picked: Jinja2 = 2.6" | 06:12 |
| kosh | I have not used jinja before either sorry | 06:12 |
| MrSmile | I need a powerful template engine other then ZPT | 06:13 |
| kosh | not a clue | 06:13 |
| MrSmile | usually doing applications with zope doesn't force me to use ZPT, no?! | 06:13 |
| kosh | I have used only a little ZPT mostly I used python scripts and DTML later | 06:13 |
| kosh | bluebream is not like zope 2.x | 06:14 |
| kosh | that is one reason it was renamed from zope 3.x to make it clear it is very different | 06:14 |
| MrSmile | yes, heared of it, totally rewritten from the ground up. | 06:14 |
| kosh | I don't know squat about how its template engine works | 06:14 |
| MrSmile | makes use of ZPT like on Zope2 | 06:14 |
| kosh | so why not use that? | 06:15 |
| MrSmile | I am usually doing a lot with pyramid and jinja2 template engine. | 06:15 |
| MrSmile | why I use jinja2 is for me clear: I can parse Javascript serverside. | 06:15 |
| MrSmile | usually I am a python and Javascript developer. | 06:15 |
| kosh | sorry not a clue about that | 06:15 |
| kosh | I would just use pyramid | 06:16 |
| MrSmile | but the application server bluebream with it's component system is just dreamy. | 06:16 |
| kosh | I pretty much did python and zope and hate javascript | 06:16 |
| MrSmile | makes fully use of the Zope Component architecture which is REALLY powerfull. | 06:16 |
| kosh | and thankfully I won't be doing web stuff much longer :) | 06:16 |
| MrSmile | and I am hungry to get this knowledge. | 06:17 |
| kosh | sorry that is just not something that I learned | 06:17 |
| MrSmile | pyramid is good for small things, running seperate applications beside each others, and clearly sharing code through it's xml files is really cool! | 06:18 |
| MrSmile | the traditional OOP issue falls away, just through the xml files..... cool! | 06:18 |
| MrSmile | kosh: however... from where are you from?! | 06:19 |
| kosh | earth :) | 06:20 |
| kosh | unfortunately | 06:20 |
| MrSmile | specific location in planet earth ?! | 06:20 |
| MrSmile | now kosh answeres: NASA | 06:20 |
| MrSmile | hahahaha | 06:20 |
| kosh | but at least I will be doing DNA coding soon instead of web based :) | 06:20 |
| MrSmile | kosh: do it, wonderfull. | 06:20 |
| MrSmile | kosh: no more wasting time with shitt... | 06:21 |
| kosh | I went back to school, I graduate in a year and I will even be doing some genetic engineering starting in about a week over the summer | 06:21 |
| kosh | so my level of interest in web stuff has been dropping rapidly | 06:22 |
| MrSmile | kosh: I wish you a hell of luck! | 06:23 |
| MrSmile | kosh: make millions, and donate the zope community of course 80% of your 1st income. | 06:23 |
| MrSmile | kosh: then we alllll love you very much. | 06:23 |
| MrSmile | kosh: 1st - year complete sallery, 80% donations. | 06:24 |
| MrSmile | kosh: we agree ?! | 06:24 |
| kosh | why don't I donate it to doing things like building a space station, curing diseases or human augmentation? | 06:24 |
| MrSmile | kosh: because this allready the government takes care off. very simple :) | 06:24 |
| kosh | not very well | 06:25 |
| MrSmile | kosh: but mostly, higher taxes mean higher outcome in public issues or weappons. | 06:25 |
| MrSmile | and military, and war.... whatever! | 06:25 |
| MrSmile | here it is: | 06:27 |
| MrSmile | NASA builds space stations (financed by the gov), curing diseases (the pharma industry take care off), human augmentation... I accept this! | 06:27 |
| kosh | the pharma industry is treating diseases not curing them | 06:27 |
| MrSmile | then pray to god, but you cannot cure diseases with money unless you donate your money in researches, which would take 100 of millions, to (perhaps) find a sollution. | 06:31 |
| MrSmile | bye people! | 06:33 |
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