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| J1m | mcdonc, I like talking to peaple. It's marketing I'm not fond of. | 17:08 |
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| kosh_ | J1m, does anyone like marketing? | 17:23 |
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| J1m | kosh_, yes, or can at least tolerate it and are good at it. | 17:29 |
| kosh_ | just a little over a month left in the usa and then I am heading to germany for a masters degree and phd :) | 17:31 |
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| Tod-Work | I have a legacy zope2 thing, I have a subdir with a user folder. That subdir/app is self-contained. When a user in that folder tries to access something they shouldn't, I don't want to throw an error or ask for other credentials via the basic auth system. How do I redirect them to a login page in a "Zope" way? | 18:12 |
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| Tod-Work | So far I've tried raising an exception, which just gives an error for obvious reasons, and I've tried using request.response.redirect() to push them to a login page with a redirecturl set | 18:14 |
| Tod-Work | I could force this a number of ways, I'm sure, but I would rather do it in a way that's preferential to the zope engine | 18:15 |
| Tod-Work | (I'm sorry if this is rather basic. I abandoned zope a decade ago, so what little I had in mind I never remembered.) | 18:15 |
| benji | Tod-Work: how about this: stackoverflow.com/questions/1222880/an-easy-way-to-redirect-certain-roles-in-zope | 18:19 |
| benji | Disclaimer: I did very little Zope 2 and have forgotten almost everything about it. | 18:19 |
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| * J1m did very much Zope 2 and have forgottem almost everything about it | 18:37 | |
| J1m | Tod-Work, you might have more luck in #plone | 18:38 |
| Tod-Work | benji, that may be a good point in the right direction | 18:38 |
| Tod-Work | J1m, I might try there, thanks | 18:38 |
| MatthewWilkes | Tod-Work: raise Redirect ? | 18:44 |
| Tod-Work | MatthewWilkes, Redirect(URL)? Or set the redirect and then raise the exception? | 18:57 |
| MatthewWilkes | Tod-Work: raise Redirect, url | 18:58 |
| Tod-Work | ah | 18:58 |
| MatthewWilkes | I don't know if Redirect(url) works or not | 18:58 |
| Tod-Work | probably depends on your version of python | 18:59 |
| Tod-Work | 2.4 String-only exceptions I'm sure didn't like it | 19:00 |
| Tod-Work | That USED to work apparently, but this moved from an older CentOS&Python version and now it doesn't. Very interesting | 19:11 |
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| J1m | MatthewWilkes, Tod-Work taise E(args) has worked more or less forever and is the preferred syntax. | 19:50 |
| MatthewWilkes | J1m: I wasn't sure if the tuple syntax was some sort of ancient magic that I'd forgotten | 19:51 |
| Tod-Work | J1m, Yes, though some older software used the string syntax | 19:51 |
| J1m | raise E, arg is at least deprecated. | 19:52 |
| Tod-Work | Calling request.response.redirect() seems to just set some data in the response, NOT instantly reply with a redirect. That's probably good, I guess, but other auth layers in the folder above (or something) are getting in the way of that doing anything. | 19:52 |
| J1m | It got widespread use early on because it was slightly faster, because in some cases, it avoided instantiating the exception object. | 19:53 |
| Tod-Work | Anyone know of a way to just say "respond now" ? | 19:53 |
| J1m | Since then, there are a lot of apis (e.g. dict.get) that avoid raising exceptions altogether. | 19:53 |
| Tod-Work | J1m, mmmm, yes. meanwhile some other libs (like twisted) are a bit more exception happy these days | 19:55 |
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