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| oferw_ | hi all what happand to silva? | 16:19 |
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| oferw_ | infrae is still working? | 16:19 |
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| betabug | all of these things are probably dead or nearly dead | 16:44 |
| betabug | not much life in the zope world | 16:45 |
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| benji | I, for one, am only slightly dead | 16:47 |
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| J1m | betabug, there's more life than you think. This IRC channel is pretty inactive. | 17:23 |
| J1m | I wish I knew how to get rid of roq_. | 17:24 |
| betabug | J1m: glad to hear it! | 17:24 |
| betabug | who or what is roq_? | 17:24 |
| J1m | Yeah, everone wants to get rid of roq_ | 17:24 |
| betabug | no idea what/who that is | 17:25 |
| betabug | doesn't seem to be on this channel | 17:25 |
| J1m | Interesting, I see it entering and leaving every couple of minutes. | 17:25 |
| betabug | ah, I hide joins/quits etc | 17:26 |
| J1m | Hm... | 17:26 |
| betabug | /ignore -channels #channelname * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS <- that's the ticket | 17:26 |
| betabug | unless you really want to see in a channel when someone shows up | 17:27 |
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| J1m | Still, even if I don't see them anymore, this is likely to drive others away. | 17:31 |
| J1m | I'd really rather just ban them. | 17:31 |
| betabug | does the ip change? | 17:31 |
| betabug | also maybe freenode staff could help | 17:31 |
| J1m | no. | 17:32 |
| betabug | if the ip stays the same, and if you have channel ops, should be easy | 17:32 |
| J1m | No one has channel ops. | 17:32 |
| betabug | oh? | 17:32 |
| J1m | according to xchat. | 17:32 |
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| betabug | in that case freenode staff could help | 17:32 |
| J1m | how do you get their help? | 17:33 |
| betabug | well, to have channel op, you go through chanserv | 17:33 |
| J1m | (If you know off hand, not asking you to google :) ) | 17:33 |
| betabug | so you would not see who has channel op | 17:33 |
| betabug | ehmm, was what it? #freenode? | 17:33 |
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| betabug | it seems there is no channel founder for #zope, so definitely a case to ask freenode staff | 17:35 |
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| J1m | Yeah. I think I found out how to reach stadd. | 17:35 |
| aclark63 | we need to change the topic in here too … was just thinking about that (to remove public wave) | 17:35 |
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| aclark63 | wtf | 17:36 |
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| J1m | betabug, staff tells me you're an operator. | 17:42 |
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| betabug | I am? | 17:43 |
| betabug | let's see | 17:43 |
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| betabug | oh! | 17:43 |
| betabug | I am! | 17:43 |
| betabug | didn't remember that | 17:43 |
| J1m | coulr you ban roq_ and make aclark and me operators too? | 17:44 |
| J1m | could | 17:44 |
| betabug | yes | 17:45 |
| betabug | that's what I'm just looking up | 17:45 |
| betabug | roq_ [~Icedove@200-168-7-175.dsl.telesp.net.br] | 17:45 |
| betabug | that's the guy? | 17:45 |
| J1m | yes | 17:45 |
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| J1m | actually aclark63 | 17:46 |
| betabug | spoke the /ban, let's see if I got the mask right | 17:47 |
| mniip | betabug can't change the ACL | 17:47 |
| mniip | no +f flag | 17:47 |
| betabug | which ACL? to make them ops? | 17:47 |
| *** betabug changes topic to "http://zope.org http://wiki.zope.org/zope2 http://wiki.zope.org/zope3 please paste your error traceback at http://paste.lisp.org/new/zope please mention zope version when asking questions" | 17:50 | |
| betabug | goodbye wave | 17:50 |
| betabug | J1m: anything else for the topic, while I figure out the op stuff? | 17:51 |
| betabug | oh, wiki.zope.org is dead it seems | 17:51 |
| J1m | I was hoping that aclark63 would think of that. :) | 17:52 |
| mniip | see /msg ChanServ access #zope list | 17:52 |
| mniip | the only person who can add/remove flags is tav | 17:53 |
| betabug | wiki.zope.org points to http://hetzner03-1.zopefoundation.org/ - which doesn't exist | 17:53 |
| betabug | mniip: yeah but INFO says that freenode staff took it over | 17:53 |
| aclark63 | betabug: aclark is fine, not aclark63 | 17:53 |
| aclark63 | Thx | 17:53 |
| mniip | no? | 17:53 |
| J1m | Yeah, maybe just drop mention of the wiki. It's dead. | 17:54 |
| mniip | that's only the successor | 17:54 |
| mniip | it's the default successor on all # channels | 17:54 |
| betabug | aha | 17:55 |
| betabug | you know more than me | 17:55 |
| aclark63 | (assuming you figure out flags) | 17:55 |
| mniip | see /cs help flags | 17:55 |
| betabug | paste site seems to be out of whack too | 17:55 |
| betabug | tav seems to be online | 17:56 |
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| tav | hey | 17:57 |
| mniip | betabug, is roq_ just repeatedly joining and parting? | 17:58 |
| mniip | was, rather | 17:58 |
| J1m | yes | 17:58 |
| mniip | well then you'd want to update the ban to a redirect to ##fix_your_connection | 17:59 |
| betabug | tav: we would like to give op powers to J1m and to aclark | 18:00 |
| betabug | these guys are very active in the project still, so it makes sense | 18:01 |
| betabug | I'm not working on the project, but I'm a long time regular here | 18:01 |
| betabug | mniip: any hint how to do that (the redirect)? | 18:02 |
| mniip | add $##fix_your_connection at the end | 18:03 |
| betabug | dunno if that worked, he doesn't seem to be in the flags listing any more | 18:05 |
| tav | cool | 18:06 |
| tav | J1m and aclark, you guys okay with that? | 18:06 |
| mniip | betabug, you need to lift the ban first | 18:07 |
| J1m | tav, yes please | 18:08 |
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| betabug | not in the flags list, maybe it's treated specially? | 18:09 |
| betabug | I /unbanned and /banned again | 18:09 |
| betabug | if he doesn't come back, I'd guess it worked | 18:09 |
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| betabug | http://zope.org - please paste your error traceback to a pastebord - please mention zope version when asking questions - patience! this is not a busy channel | 18:10 |
| betabug | I guess this should do for now for the /topic | 18:11 |
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| *** ChanServ sets mode: +b *!*@d-24-245-105-17.cpe.metrocast.net | 18:12 | |
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| tav | ooops | 18:13 |
| mniip | um | 18:13 |
| mniip | not +b | 18:13 |
| betabug | it might be an ooops, but it sure was fun :-) | 18:14 |
| tav | lol | 18:14 |
| tav | anyone know how to unban? ;p | 18:15 |
| tav | i removed the -b from flags but he still can't join | 18:16 |
| betabug | tav: /unban | 18:16 |
| tav | it's been years since i set chanserv flags | 18:16 |
| tav | not having any effect.. sure that's not a client-side feature? | 18:16 |
| betabug | could be | 18:16 |
| betabug | he's not on the /ban list any more though | 18:17 |
| mniip | /mode -b | 18:17 |
| mniip | or /unban | 18:17 |
| mniip | depends on your client | 18:17 |
| betabug | flags list has J1m with +Vortv now | 18:18 |
| mniip | you have to unban them still though | 18:19 |
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| betabug | J1m is not on the ban list as I see it | 18:20 |
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| betabug | oh, his address is | 18:20 |
| mniip | not anymore | 18:20 |
| tav | woo! | 18:20 |
| tav | sorry about that J1m | 18:20 |
| J1m | np | 18:21 |
| betabug | :-) | 18:21 |
| betabug | J1m: we could pretend it's an intiation ritual on #zope ;-) | 18:21 |
| betabug | initiation | 18:21 |
| tav | lol | 18:21 |
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| J1m | :) | 18:22 |
| betabug | anyway, seems I'm not needed to be op any more right now? | 18:23 |
| tav | we'll save aclark the fun since he seems to be away ;p | 18:23 |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: -o betabug | 18:23 | |
| tav | welcome aboard guys, and best of luck! and thanks betabug for getting me here. | 18:23 |
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| betabug | tav: thanks for helping! | 18:24 |
| tav | anytime | 18:25 |
| tav | and damn i feel old — been 15yrs since starting this channel | 18:25 |
| mniip | J1m, I assume the issues have been addressed? | 18:26 |
| J1m | Yes. Thanks! | 18:26 |
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| betabug | hehe, oldy stuff | 18:27 |
| betabug | mniip: thanks! ... already gone | 18:27 |
| tav | how is everything in the world of zope btw? | 18:28 |
| tav | is it still being developed? | 18:29 |
| betabug | that was the topic of discussion that brought all this up :-) | 18:29 |
| betabug | J1m said it was much more alive than it seemed | 18:29 |
| J1m | Not much happening in Zope itself. Satelites are alive and active: Plone, Pyramid, ERP, ZODB, various smaller projects. | 18:29 |
| J1m | People are working on a Python 3 port, or at least threatening to. | 18:30 |
| tav | oooh | 18:30 |
| J1m | I would say the ecosystem is still fairly alive, although not as healthy as it once was, obviously. | 18:30 |
| tav | what's ERP? | 18:31 |
| J1m | Nexedi's application based on Zope. | 18:31 |
| tav | ah | 18:32 |
| tav | thanks for the update J1m | 18:33 |
| J1m | yw | 18:33 |
| benji | there's a lot of "dark zope" out there; for example, I work on a piece of software that is over 200KLOC and uses quite a bit of zope 3 | 18:37 |
| tav | wow | 18:39 |
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| aclark | cool i have a voice … | 20:05 |
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| aclark | cool thanks betabug, J1m | 22:17 |
| J1m | Thanks for thinking this is cool. :) | 22:19 |
| aclark | Heh | 23:06 |
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