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| ccomb | hi, what or where is schemaless? I want to try z3c.formdemo but the buildout -N ends with an import error on schemaless. | 00:11 |
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| lisppaste6 | ccomb pasted "schemaless import error" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/50004 | 00:13 |
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| baijum | srichter, Congrats for completing the egg releases ! | 09:11 |
| baijum | Theuni, srichter: what's next step now for 3.4 tar ball release ? | 09:12 |
| philiKON | baijum: update the externals on Zope3/branches/3.4 and run the tests, i suppose | 09:31 |
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| baijum | philiKON: ah. ok, may be we will be required a bug day | 09:33 |
| philiKON | i have no idea. depends on whether we have many open bugs for 3.4 | 09:33 |
| baijum | philiKON: It look's like we still have some critical bugs marked: http://tinyurl.com/yvyeo5 | 09:35 |
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| baijum | sorry, I have to go now. | 09:35 |
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| spython | there are .. II/OO/OI/IO-BTrees but what is the "IF" in IFSet/IFTreeSet/IFBTree? | 12:08 |
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| philiKON | integer -> float | 12:08 |
| spython | thanks | 12:09 |
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| timte | you emacs gurus, is there some way to get classes and methods linkable so I can click or press M-whatever to get to the definition of the class/method? | 12:27 |
| timte | if there is I'll switch to emacs :) | 12:28 |
| baijum | timte, you can use Bicycle Repair Man ( http://bicyclerepair.sourceforge.net/ ) with emacs | 12:30 |
| * baijum is not a guru ;) | 12:30 | |
| philiKON | timte: or you can use CTAGS | 12:35 |
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| timte | ok, I will google on those | 12:38 |
| mgedmin | ctags rule | 12:39 |
| mgedmin | I don't know about M-whatever, but M-, jumps to a tag, iirc | 12:40 |
| mgedmin | or is that M-.? | 12:40 |
| * mgedmin uses vim | 12:40 | |
| timte | do you use ctags with vim? | 12:41 |
| mgedmin | yes | 12:41 |
| * philiKON hasn't gotten ctags to work with emacs yet :/ | 12:41 | |
| philiKON | then again, i haven't tried hard | 12:41 |
| * baijum sometime use Bicycle Repair Man in Emacs | 12:43 | |
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| baijum | philiKON: I updated my local copy of 3.4 branch with svn:externals based on http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/StabilizeEggPackages All tests are passing. but there are some warnings in packages which are not yet officially released. Can I commit it now ? | 12:45 |
| philiKON | sigh, yeah, projekt01's and srichter's refactoring made some 3.4.x eggs dependent on 3.5.x eggs | 12:46 |
| philiKON | baijum: i think you can commit | 12:46 |
| philiKON | then we can sort out the problem | 12:46 |
| baijum | philiKON, ok | 12:47 |
| malthe | can you make a browser:page view that has both a class and a template that's specified in zcml? | 12:48 |
| malthe | I find that the template is ignored | 12:48 |
| philiKON | sure you can | 12:48 |
| malthe | cool, how? | 12:48 |
| philiKON | um... just do it?!? | 12:48 |
| philiKON | look at my book, for example | 12:48 |
| malthe | introspecting my class there's no template attribute, nor 'index' | 12:48 |
| philiKON | or pretty much any other example out there | 12:49 |
| philiKON | <browser:page class="..." template="..." ... /> | 12:49 |
| philiKON | in five, the template isn't called 'index' i think | 12:49 |
| malthe | right exactly, but the template doesn't make it to the class | 12:49 |
| malthe | I'm experimenting with calling the view "view" | 12:49 |
| malthe | I wonder if that could have implications | 12:49 |
| philiKON | when you look up the view, do you actually get an instance of the class you registered | 12:50 |
| malthe | <Products.Five.metaclass.PortalView object at 0x6c468d0> | 12:50 |
| malthe | so it is a metaclass around my class | 12:51 |
| philiKON | no | 12:51 |
| philiKON | don't be confused by the different dotted name | 12:51 |
| philiKON | all that five does it create a subclass of your original class | 12:51 |
| malthe | gotcha | 12:51 |
| philiKON | s/five/the browser:page zcml handler/ | 12:51 |
| philiKON | this class creation stuff happen sto be in a Products.Five.metaclass module | 12:52 |
| malthe | right | 12:52 |
| nouri | Look at __dict__ and you'll see if there's a template or not. | 12:53 |
| malthe | there isn't | 12:53 |
| nouri | And how it's called. | 12:53 |
| instantfoo | hey, how's 3.4 going? | 12:54 |
| philiKON | who needs 3.4 when you got eggs? | 12:54 |
| instantfoo | :) | 12:54 |
| malthe | philiKON: hmm never mind; it does seem to work now ––– I don't what happened. | 12:56 |
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| malthe | thanks anyway | 12:57 |
| nouri | malthe: It's in __class__.__dict__, then, or in your __class__.__bases__[something].__dict__ | 12:57 |
| malthe | I must've had a competing directive somewhere without the template definition | 12:59 |
| instantfoo | meh, I should really wipe my old 3.3.1 tarball install and run eggs | 12:59 |
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| mgedmin | philiKON: talk to ignas when he appears on irc, he managet to get both emacs-style ctags and vim-style ctags work in emacs | 13:13 |
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| mgedmin | apparently vim-style ctags are much faster, because the tags file is sorted so you can do binary searches in it | 13:13 |
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| malthe | philiKON: for the record –– calling a view "view" will cause problems when Plone needs to find the default view of an object. | 13:31 |
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| amaron | if i have forbidden attribute, how to find what setting to change in zcml in order to have that attribute enabled | 14:07 |
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| amaron | ie. i have container and contained, i've set zcml to allow IReadContainer and IWriteContainer | 14:08 |
| amaron | but i still have forbbidden attribute 'add' for that container | 14:08 |
| baijum | Theuni, ping ? | 14:16 |
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| mgedmin | amaron: 'add' is not a method defined in IWriteContainer | 15:11 |
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| amaron | mgedmin: my 'add' happens when i want to add contained object to container | 15:16 |
| amaron | i dont call it | 15:17 |
| mgedmin | I think you may be confused by adding views | 15:17 |
| amaron | it happens in formview | 15:17 |
| mgedmin | IAdding has an add() method | 15:17 |
| mgedmin | which is supposed to add the object to the container | 15:17 |
| mgedmin | but the only API containers give you for adding objects is container[name] = object | 15:17 |
| mgedmin | i.e. __setitem__ | 15:18 |
| amaron | i see | 15:18 |
| amaron | let me try | 15:18 |
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| amaron | mgedmin: that passes, now i need add function in container | 15:21 |
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| amaron | mgedmin: it works... i added... something :) | 15:29 |
| amaron | to many interfaces, i dont know which permission and attribute is for which one | 15:30 |
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| ignas | srichter: is it just me or you silently finished up packaging of all the zope3.4 eggs? | 16:40 |
| ignas | srichter: and what else has to be done to get a Zope3.4 release out of the door? | 16:41 |
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| philiKON | ignas: fix bugs and deprecation warnings? | 16:51 |
| ignas | philiKON: hmm, like the ones related to 18n message ids? | 16:51 |
| philiKON | yup | 16:51 |
| philiKON | that was a pretty stupid change, imho | 16:52 |
| philiKON | s/stupid/unnecessary/ | 16:52 |
| philiKON | :) | 16:52 |
| ignas | yes, let's be political correct ;) | 16:52 |
| projekt01 | philiKON, this change was the needed for a separation of zope and zope.app | 16:56 |
| ignas | projekt01: it was backwards incompatible, and it could have been done in a better way | 16:56 |
| ignas | that would do both - separate zope from zope.app AND keep it backwards compatible | 16:56 |
| projekt01 | incompatible, why? | 16:57 |
| philiKON | projekt01: the zope i18n message id factory doesn't have to imported | 16:58 |
| philiKON | you can create it with one line | 16:58 |
| philiKON | _ = MessageFactory('zope') | 16:58 |
| philiKON | so no need to move things around | 16:58 |
| ignas | because zope.i18nmessageid package had no MessageFactory('Zope') in 3.4.1 | 16:58 |
| ignas | so expecting it to be there in 3.4.2 is breaking backwards compatibility | 16:59 |
| philiKON | and it doesn't need to | 16:59 |
| philiKON | also, i think the 'zope' domain must die | 16:59 |
| ignas | yes, that's just one more reason | 16:59 |
| ccomb | speaking of i18n/l10n, before the 3.4 release I would like to make a full review of the french translation, what is the recommended way to do this? Should I search for every po file around and submit them to someone or what? | 17:00 |
| philiKON | ccomb: launchpad | 17:00 |
| ccomb | it's automatically taken into account? | 17:01 |
| philiKON | i have n o idea what you mean by 'automatically' | 17:01 |
| ccomb | I don't know how work all the machinery from launchpad to eggs | 17:02 |
| philiKON | you don't | 17:02 |
| philiKON | currently translations aren't egg-centric yet | 17:03 |
| philiKON | they're still monolithic | 17:03 |
| philiKON | (hence the one and only 'zope' domain) | 17:03 |
| philiKON | for the 3.5 / 3.6 line we should start splitting up translations | 17:03 |
| ccomb | ah ok | 17:03 |
| projekt01 | I think global variables shoul be defined once e.g. MessageFactory('zope') | 17:03 |
| projekt01 | philiKON, is the buildout zip issue fixed for windows? | 17:05 |
| philiKON | it's a setuptools bug | 17:06 |
| philiKON | and yes, it was fixed | 17:06 |
| philiKON | but i'm not sure if it's released yet | 17:06 |
| philiKON | projekt01: this global variable is completely meaningless. the instance itself isn't important. | 17:06 |
| philiKON | and in this particular case, it caused a lot of confusion | 17:07 |
| projekt01 | Ok | 17:08 |
| philiKON | projekt01: also, i outlined the MessageFactory thing quite a while ago in http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/MakeZopeAppSmaller already, and the consensus was to recreate it in each package since it's a meaningless one-liner | 17:09 |
| philiKON | you couldn't have known, though | 17:10 |
| philiKON | so i forgive you :) | 17:10 |
| philiKON | i just think we should clean up this mess | 17:10 |
| philiKON | unfortunately, now it's really messed up | 17:10 |
| philiKON | because all of a sudden, we have a zope.i18nmessageid that has a ZopeMessageFactoyr | 17:10 |
| philiKON | so we can never take that back | 17:10 |
| philiKON | i just wished you would've written proposals | 17:10 |
| philiKON | you wrote the "Free Views" proposal, changed your mind based on feedback, and then never chnaged it | 17:11 |
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| projekt01 | philiKON, should I join the next sprint and help cleanup? | 17:15 |
| philiKON | sure, why not! | 17:16 |
| projekt01 | Ok, will take a look if I can make it | 17:16 |
| rlo | when and where is this sprint? | 17:22 |
| philiKON | tuebingen | 17:24 |
| philiKON | 9-11 november | 17:24 |
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| nouri | mgedmin: Hey, I saw that you were the last one to touch the MultiCheckboxWidget in zope.app.form. | 17:47 |
| mgedmin | could be | 17:47 |
| nouri | mgedmin: Does this mean it actually works for you? | 17:47 |
| mgedmin | I think so, yes | 17:47 |
| mgedmin | I don't remember where I used it | 17:47 |
| nouri | Because I have this issue, https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope3/+bug/158736 | 17:47 |
| mgedmin | hmm | 17:48 |
| * mgedmin never used :list suffixes in his life | 17:48 | |
| mgedmin | no, I think I never used MultiCheckBoxWidget | 17:50 |
| mgedmin | I fixed the missing <label> issue in some other widget (radio buttons?) and noticed in passing that MultiCheckBoxWidget also had no proper labels | 17:50 |
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| nouri | mgedmin: I see. Thanks for looking at it. | 17:51 |
| mgedmin | nouri: could you clarify why the lack of the :list suffix makes the widget useless? | 17:51 |
| nouri | mgedmin: Guess I should add this to the bugreport. When you get the value from request.form, it's a single item, not a list. | 17:51 |
| mgedmin | so? | 17:51 |
| nouri | MultiCheckboxWidget suggests that the value should be a list ;) | 17:52 |
| mgedmin | you shouldn't use values directly from request.form if you use widgets | 17:52 |
| nouri | What? | 17:52 |
| mgedmin | request.form is an internal implementation detail, don't touch it | 17:52 |
| mgedmin | if you use a widget, use the widget to get the value | 17:52 |
| mgedmin | zope.app.form.utility.getWidgetsData(...) | 17:52 |
| mgedmin | iirc | 17:52 |
| mgedmin | zope.formlib is generally nicer | 17:52 |
| nouri | Interesting, I'll look at that. | 17:52 |
| nouri | I'm using formlib. | 17:53 |
| mgedmin | yay | 17:53 |
| mgedmin | also, there's z3c.form which is newer and supposedly better (for some people) than zope.formlib, but I just can't handle five-way adapters | 17:53 |
| mgedmin | I see 'adapts(IFoo, IBar, None, None, None)' and my head explodes | 17:53 |
| mgedmin | anyway | 17:54 |
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| * jinty has had some good experiences with z3c.form so far | 17:59 | |
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| srichter | mgedmin: I have to build more high-level APIs for this, so you can say: | 18:07 |
| srichter | adapts(context=IFoo, field=IBar) | 18:08 |
| * mgedmin likes that | 18:08 | |
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| srichter | it knows the order and assigns None to the other values automatically | 18:08 |
| philiKON | projekt01: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/zope3/+bug/158743 | 18:09 |
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| projekt01 | philiKON, I have no idea how I can test this? | 18:16 |
| philiKON | write tests that do imports? | 18:17 |
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| philiKON | but really, we should revert the split up for the 3.4.x line | 18:17 |
| J1m | nouri, extjs has made my life soooo much better. :) | 18:17 |
| mgedmin | what's extjs? | 18:19 |
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| mgedmin | oh, *another* new javascript framework | 18:19 |
| J1m | http://extjs.com/ | 18:19 |
| mgedmin | yay | 18:19 |
| mgedmin | and just after I learned jquery :( | 18:19 |
| nouri | J1m: Hmm, are you suggesting I should use extjs instead of... formlib? | 18:19 |
| J1m | It lets you right applications in much the way you'd write for a *real* GUI framework. | 18:20 |
| J1m | That distinguishes it from many other JS libraries. | 18:20 |
| projekt01 | J1m, if you like extjs, google for z3ext | 18:20 |
| J1m | nouri, I do. :) | 18:20 |
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| projekt01 | J1m, but note, extjs is not obtrusive | 18:21 |
| J1m | Pls remind me what that means? | 18:21 |
| projekt01 | it doesn't fall back to a UI if no javascript is active, and doesnt support readers for blind people | 18:22 |
| J1m | philiKON, cool, although http://z3ext.net/ doesn't work for me. | 18:22 |
| J1m | projekt01, for lots of apps, I don't care. | 18:22 |
| philiKON | J1m: i think that was projekt01 who suggested that :) | 18:22 |
| J1m | I'd rather create separate apps. | 18:22 |
| projekt01 | Yes at all, extjs is a great framework | 18:23 |
| J1m | A sucky one (read traditional web app) for people who need it and a working one. :) | 18:23 |
| J1m | projekt01, thanks for that link. :) | 18:23 |
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| J1m | nouri, I could see use for a little automation to support forms, but ext doesn't need it nearly as much as traditional web UIs do. | 18:24 |
| J1m | projekt01, I;kk check out z3ext. | 18:25 |
| nouri | Sounds good, I'll check it out when I'm done with this formlib form ;) | 18:25 |
| J1m | I'll | 18:25 |
| projekt01 | J1m, can you give Nikolay Kim the developer of z3ext commit rights? | 18:25 |
| J1m | btw, extjs does allow some reasonable degredation. | 18:25 |
| srichter | J1m: Nikolay is sleeping right now; I get to him when he gets up to fix the site | 18:25 |
| J1m | projekt01, sure, if you vouch for him and if ge sends me a contributor agreement. | 18:26 |
| J1m | And if he gets his site back up so I can check it out. ;) | 18:26 |
| projekt01 | srichter, can you tell Nikolay to send a agreement to J1m | 18:27 |
| srichter | projekt01: yep, I'll try to get a hold of him later | 18:27 |
| J1m | You can create a content page and have ext build on the origibal content. | 18:27 |
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| projekt01 | J1m, (degradation) you can allways implement the extjs JS write generation part as HTML in templates. | 18:29 |
| J1m | Right, I think that's what I just said. :) | 18:30 |
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| projekt01 | Ok | 18:31 |
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| djk001 | Can formlib handle nested objects? i.e., if a student object contained an address object (and specfied this in the schema), can formlib handle this, or do I have to make a special widget for the address object? | 21:18 |
| benji | djk001: I've seen compound forms like that created with formlib, but I don't know the details; I wouldn't be suprised if the README.txt includes information on doing that | 21:18 |
| philiKON | djk001: yes, it's possible | 21:20 |
| djk001 | I checked the forms.txt and didn't see anything there | 21:20 |
| benji | <shrug> | 21:20 |
| djk001 | how do you do it? I keep getting "A system error has occurred" | 21:20 |
| philiKON | you basically use the zope.schema.Object() field | 21:20 |
| philiKON | "A system error has occurred" is not the error msg you want to be bothering us with :) | 21:21 |
| philiKON | look at the console | 21:21 |
| philiKON | that's where the actual traceback is | 21:21 |
| philiKON | anyway, as i was sayinig: | 21:21 |
| philiKON | you basically use the zope.schema.Object() field | 21:21 |
| djk001 | yeah. that was pretty messy. | 21:21 |
| philiKON | and then | 21:21 |
| philiKON | you use the ObjectWidget | 21:21 |
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| philiKON | but you need to tell the ObjectWidget which kind of class to use to create one of thos eobjects | 21:21 |
| djk001 | OK. I had the address = Object(schema=IAddress) line, but I need to do something more? | 21:22 |
| philiKON | yes | 21:22 |
| philiKON | i just said that | 21:22 |
| philiKON | :) | 21:22 |
| djk001 | sorry, didn't know if the Object () call would setup for ObjectWidget for me or not. I'm just getting started with formlib | 21:23 |
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| philiKON | well, it would help if you looked at the traceback | 21:23 |
| djk001 | k. 1 sec | 21:24 |
| djk001 | Traceback (most recent call last): | 21:25 |
| djk001 | File "/usr/local/Zope-3.3.1/lib/python/zope/publisher/publish.py", line 133, in publish | 21:25 |
| djk001 | result = publication.callObject(request, obj) | 21:25 |
| djk001 | File "/usr/local/Zope-3.3.1/lib/python/zope/app/publication/zopepublication.py", line 161, in callObject | 21:25 |
| djk001 | return mapply(ob, request.getPositionalArguments(), request) | 21:25 |
| djk001 | File "/usr/local/Zope-3.3.1/lib/python/zope/publisher/publish.py", line 108, in mapply | 21:25 |
| djk001 | return debug_call(obj, args) | 21:25 |
| djk001 | - traceback_info: <security proxied zope.app.publisher.browser.viewmeta.ContactEditForm instance at 0x996432c> | 21:25 |
| djk001 | File "/usr/local/Zope-3.3.1/lib/python/zope/publisher/publish.py", line 114, in debug_call | 21:25 |
| djk001 | return obj(*args) | 21:25 |
| djk001 | File "/usr/local/Zope-3.3.1/lib/python/zope/formlib/form.py", line 769, in call | 21:25 |
| djk001 | self.update() | 21:26 |
| djk001 | File "/usr/local/Zope-3.3.1/lib/python/zope/formlib/form.py", line 732, in update | 21:26 |
| djk001 | self.setUpWidgets() | 21:26 |
| djk001 | File "/usr/local/Zope-3.3.1/lib/python/zope/formlib/form.py", line 802, in setUpWidgets | 21:26 |
| djk001 | adapters=self.adapters, ignore_request=ignore_request | 21:26 |
| djk001 | File "/usr/local/Zope-3.3.1/lib/python/zope/formlib/form.py", line 393, in setUpEditWidgets | 21:26 |
| djk001 | widget = _createWidget(form_field, field, request, iface) | 21:26 |
| djk001 | File "/usr/local/Zope-3.3.1/lib/python/zope/formlib/form.py", line 323, in _createWidget | 21:26 |
| djk001 | return component.getMultiAdapter((field, request), iface) | 21:26 |
| djk001 | File "/usr/local/Zope-3.3.1/lib/python/zope/component/_api.py", line 103, in getMultiAdapter | 21:26 |
| philiKON | no no no no | 21:26 |
| djk001 | raise ComponentLookupError(objects, interface, name) | 21:26 |
| djk001 | ComponentLookupError: ((<zope.schema._field.Object object at 0x996eccc>, <zope.publisher.browser.BrowserRequest instance URL=http://localhost:8080/c2/edit.html>), <InterfaceClass zope.app.form.interfaces.IInputWidget>, u'') | 21:26 |
| benji | djk001: please, please see the topic; no pasting | 21:26 |
| philiKON | don't do this here | 21:26 |
| djk001 | 127.0.0.1 - - [30/Oct/2007:15:22:54 -0400] "GET /c2/edit.html HTTP/1.1" 500 84 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.1) Gecko/20061228 Firefox/2.0.0.1 pango-text" | 21:26 |
| djk001 | url: lisppaste6 | 21:26 |
| djk001 | oops. how do you use that? | 21:26 |
| philiKON | djk001: just go to the paste site, paste in your stuff, and give us the url | 21:28 |
| philiKON | to look at it | 21:28 |
| philiKON | just don't flood us here with crap | 21:28 |
| djk001 | sorry | 21:28 |
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| hazmat | djk001, you need to setup a CustomWidgetFactory and ObjectWidget | 21:33 |
| philiKON | yup | 21:33 |
| hazmat | widget = CustomWidgetFactory( ObjectWidget, YourClass) and then in your formlib form.. pass in a custom_widget with that widget | 21:34 |
| hazmat | be aware that the zope.app.form machinery creates and replaces subobjects on a value change, it doesn't modify in place | 21:35 |
| djk001 | ok. I'll try that. thx. | 21:36 |
| philiKON | the ObjectWidget that is | 21:36 |
| philiKON | it's not really particular to the whole machinery | 21:36 |
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| hazmat | well the formlib machinery expects a value back from the form, and then calls field.set.. so its a bit more than just the widget | 21:36 |
| hazmat | er a value back from the widget | 21:36 |
| philiKON | dang, you're right | 21:37 |
| hazmat | i had to do some hacks on that when working with mapped sqlalchemy objects.. not pretty.. i've been meaning to try out z3c.form and see if things get nicer.. but its a bit of turnoff to manage all the stuff there to make a form | 21:37 |
| hazmat | are there any examples of doing cookie auth with z3? | 21:38 |
| philiKON | hazmat: my book :) | 21:39 |
| hazmat | or a cookie credential extractor plugin in svn? | 21:39 |
| hazmat | aha!, i left it at home.. | 21:39 |
| philiKON | http://pypi.python.org/pypi/wc.cookiecredentials | 21:39 |
| hazmat | philiKON, thanks | 21:39 |
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