IRC log of #zope3-dev for Thursday, 2007-11-01

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*** baijum changes topic to "Zope 3.4.0b1 is out: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope3/3.4.0b1 | Paste: http://paste.lisp.org/new/zope3-dev | Zope 3.4 bugs: http://tinyurl.com/yvyeo5 | bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope3/ | FAQ: http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/FAQ | wiki: http://wiki.zope.org/zope3 | irc logs: http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs/ | Like gardening ? join us here: http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/WikiGarden"05:24
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fdrakeThe Zope 3 mega checkout still refers to zope.app.securitypolicy.zopepolicy.ZopeSecurityPolicy from ZCML; is there any reason for this not to use zope.securitypolicy.zopepolicy.ZopeSecurityPolicy?  Are the trunks of all the referring packages still using the old location, or has the Zope 3 mega-checkout just not been updated?06:12
* fdrake continues his hatred of deprecation warnings...06:12
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baijumfdrake, trunk is not update, two days back I updated 3.4 branch07:05
baijum*updated07:05
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romanofskimoin :)09:34
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* MJ is at the sprint10:55
MJ:-)10:55
MJignore that, wrong channel10:55
MJ:-)10:55
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nouriSo I'm running my tests with --profile=hotshot; but I find that the test setup (i.e. the stuff in the layer) is not really interesting for me.19:38
nouriI guess it'd be useful if prof.start() happens after the call to setup_layer in testrunner19:39
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MJso I am trying to run just zope.component in a buildout20:16
MJbut I can't run the tests because it cannot import transaction20:16
* MJ supposes a dependency on ZODB would be nice ;-)20:16
philiKONit's an optional dependency i think20:18
philiKONare you using zope.component's buildout.cfg?20:18
philiKONor a custom one?20:18
MJcustom20:20
philiKONuh huh20:20
MJjust a develop egg one20:20
philiKONright20:20
philiKONanyway20:20
MJwith a testrunning recipe20:20
philiKONlook at zope.component's own buildout20:20
philiKONi see20:20
* MJ looks20:20
philiKONwhy not use zope.component's own buildout.cfg then?20:21
* MJ completely missed that :-)20:21
philiKONsvn co svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zope.component/trunk :)20:21
MJ:-)20:21
MJgot that far :-)20:21
philiKONall our projects are buildouts nowadays20:22
MJjust didn't see the bootstrap and buildout files there.20:22
MJnice20:22
MJhandy20:22
philiKONit's not only handy, it's how we do development nowadays :)20:22
* MJ is slow as he is still recovering from flu.20:22
philiKONwhen i look at ploneout, i get the flu :)20:22
* MJ doesn't look at ploneout if possible.20:23
* MJ now sees the handy [test, zcml] additions.20:24
philiKONthey're evil, not handy :)20:25
MJphiliKON: I am looking at zope.component.interface.interfaceToName20:25
MJphiliKON: I'll take your word for it.20:25
MJthat method is inefficient as hell20:25
MJas it searches for interfaces that derive from the current one20:25
MJthen discards all extendors as it builds it's name..20:26
philiKONheh20:26
philiKONgo for it :)20:26
MJI'll add a doctest first..20:27
MJNow that I have you here anyway20:27
MJthe context parameter is obviously a holdover from the olden days20:27
MJany way we can deprecate it?20:27
MJit is never used.20:28
philiKONnot sure20:29
MJI imagine it's tricky because it's the first parameter20:31
MJwe'd have to detect that the methods are being called with 3 positional arguments and throw a bbb warning.20:31
MJso something like interfaceToName(interface, bbbPositional=None)20:32
MJand "if bbbPositional is not None: warn("context is ignored!")20:33
MJand interface = bbbPositional20:33
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philiKONMJ: i think there are already cases like these that you can borrow from20:38
MJokay20:38
MJI'll focus on the doctest first20:39
MJthis code is silly beyond measure20:39
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MJbut I am tired enough to not trust my judgement right now.20:39
philiKONMJ: :)20:39
MJit even asserts that there is only one id to return..20:39
MJah, I see a judgement error coming up20:41
MJit is possible to use a different id when registering an interface with the global registry.20:41
philiKONyes20:41
MJand interfaceToName should return that id.20:41
philiKONvery importnat use case20:41
MJright.20:42
philiKONi see20:42
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MJhowever, the interfaceToName code is still inefficient in that it searches for all interfaces plus subclasses of the interface20:42
MJthen discards the subclasses20:42
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MJphiliKON: the original reason I have been looking into this is that interfaceToName is slow20:49
MJphiliKON: and Plone relies on it..20:49
MJphiliKON: every time object_provides is indexed, all provided interfaces go through that method.20:49
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* MJ is looking for performance wins here.20:49
MJthe codebase doesn't take advantage of iterators either here.20:50
philiKONnote that you can typically safely use   iface.__module__ + '.' + iface.name20:50
philiKONor something like that20:50
MJphiliKON: exactly20:50
MJphiliKON: except where an alternative id is given..20:50
philiKONbut...20:51
* MJ suddenly realizes that any search in the object_provides index uses __module__ + __name__ and doesn't use interfaceToName at all..20:51
philiKONthis is really only used for:20:51
philiKON- browser skins20:51
philiKON- ... ?20:52
MJright20:52
philiKONright20:52
MJthe indexing code should just not use interfaceToName.20:52
philiKONthat's my point20:52
MJand be done with it.20:52
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dagreenerI am wondering if I found a problem with the zope book from worldcookery.  Going through chapter 8, it seems I have found two issues.   It seems the factory adapters need to add permission="zope.View" to them for the add pages to work.  Also, the named template adapter in the book has the line, for=".recipe.RecipeEditForm"  Well then it is later used by the RecipeAddForm as well.  Has anyone else noticed this?  Also, how do you make the for20:58
dagreenerrefer to many objects?  I added a for=".recipe.*" and that didn't work.20:58
philiKONyou make it refer to many objects by choosing an interface that's common to them20:59
philiKONalso, the code as shown should work21:00
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philiKONat least the example tarballs work21:00
dagreenerjust typing out of the book.  Guess I'll have to download it21:00
philiKONi suggest that21:00
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